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Re: Passenger dragged off overbooked plane
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Originally Posted by
Philbccfc
Turns out the passenger was at fault all along, if the pilot asks you to leave the aircraft you have no choice.
On what grounds did he (specifically) have to leave?
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Originally Posted by
Zenith
On what grounds did he (specifically) have to leave?
Was listening to travel experts talking about this on the radio and apparently it is the right of the airline to ask anyone to alight the plane and NO REASON has to be given.
Weird, I know , but that's what they said.
Here it is:--
http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/other/...GrY?li=BBoPWjQ
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Re: Passenger dragged off overbooked plane
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Originally Posted by
BLUETIT
Was listening to travel experts talking about this on the radio and apparently it is the right of the airline to ask anyone to alight the plane and NO REASON has to be given.
Weird, I know , but that's what they said.
Here it is:--
http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/other/...GrY?li=BBoPWjQ
its a fail-safe built into the T&C's
you could have a passenger being abusive ( yet abusive is a personal thing, to some it might be rude, to others its abusive ) or a passenger who is " drunk ", where is the line in being drunk ? ? ? it differs in people opinions
yet that doesnt excuse the " overbooking "
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I would be furious too if I was given no choice but to leave a 'plane - on the tarmac ! - for the reason of 'no reason except we can' .
For goodness sake, the lack of space was a result of their own poor management.
However we have not seen all of the story - there may be more to it - there may not be.
If they were going around asking for volunteers and this guy started to air his views and opinions very strongly, then I can see how that would be hugely unhelpful and how it could quickly escalate.
I wonder what the Staff would/could do if everyone simply kept an entirely calm stance and issued a polite but firm 'no thanks'.
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Originally Posted by
Vimana.
I would be furious too if I was given no choice but to leave a 'plane - on the tarmac ! - for the reason of 'no reason except we can' .
For goodness sake, the lack of space was a result of their own poor management.
However we have not seen all of the story - there may be more to it - there may not be.
If they were going around asking for volunteers and this guy started to air his views and opinions very strongly, then I can see how that would be hugely unhelpful and how it could quickly escalate.
I wonder what the Staff would/could do if everyone simply kept an entirely calm stance and issued a polite but firm 'no thanks'.
They did the offer bit already, this was after they picked people at random to get off. That is their procedure, overbook the flight and then force people who have paid for a ticket to get off so they can ferry their staff instead. Once they don't get off it is time to call the police and have them beat the shit out of the guy.
I know someone whose daughter is a flight dispatcher, apparently 'random' actually means 'person who has paid least for their ticket'.
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Re: Passenger dragged off overbooked plane
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Originally Posted by
Vimana.
If they were going around asking for volunteers and this guy started to air his views and opinions very strongly, then I can see how that would be hugely unhelpful and how it could quickly escalate.
Bingo, thats what reports are now saying, the guy was very vocal even before he was asked to leave
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Originally Posted by
blue matt
Bingo, thats what reports are now saying, the guy was very vocal even before he was asked to leave
He wasn't boasting to everyone about how much he had paid for his holiday was he?
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Originally Posted by
blue matt
Bingo, thats what reports are now saying, the guy was very vocal even before he was asked to leave
I would be too, what kind of stupid do you need to be to seat an entire plane and then tell people that some of them can't fly and will have to get off?
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I believe I am right in saying that overbooking flights is common practice airlines bank on passengers being unable to travel for one reason or another. If this is your system then when it backfires your reaction should be more professional than dragging someone off the plane, but if that is the way you go then you deserve a weight of negative publicity and a big compensation claim to be paid out.
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I wonder why it wasn't one of the hundreds of white people on that plane? And why the only Asian guy you can see sitting in that section?
Or is that an amazing coincidence?
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Re: Passenger dragged off overbooked plane
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Originally Posted by
Zenith
I wonder why it wasn't one of the hundreds of white people on that plane? And why the only Asian guy you can see sitting in that section?
Or is that an amazing coincidence?
The three security guys wanted a Chinese takeaway.
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I know that they say the majority of CEO's are sociopaths but this guy will clearly say anything to anyone. He has changed his mind again - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-39572841
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Originally Posted by
Eric Cartman
It's all damage limitation now. It could take a while.
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Re: Passenger dragged off overbooked plane
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Originally Posted by
xsnaggle
Thanks Mrs r.
I don't think they realise how dumb their press release is. We asked for volunteers but someone refused to leave voluntarily. Well he wasn't a volunteer then, was he?
What's most sickening is that this could have happened to anyone on that plane. Though I guess the whites were probably fairly safe.
I assumed this was a fishing trip but knowing some of your revious I tend to doubt it?
What exactly were you trying to intimate?
I wasn't being entirely serious, I don't think they beat him up just because he's Asian. But the truth is that it didn't come as a complete surprise to see that pretty much everyone else in view was white and just fine, as Zenith also alludes to. Of course there are white people who get treated like shite somewhere in the world every minute, and this was a wry comment that perhaps I shouldn't have made in case it was misconstrued.
Nice to see that I have a reputation though, I feel like that PerryJason character now :hehe:
Also a bit surprised to see so many posters here coming down on the side of the airline. A few months ago I saw someone being chucked off a plane, the first one I've ever seen (in fact, it was a family who left because they were sitting in my seat, the one with the bassinet, and refused to move). They left quietly and it's true that it's entirely up to the captain who flies and who doesn't - in this case, he didn't want passengers who might get angry at 40,000 feet.
That was totally justified, but are people here saying that if the captain asked them to disembark when they had done nothing wrong, they'd get up and leave rather than argue their case? I find that very difficult to believe.
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Originally Posted by
blue matt
Bingo, thats what reports are now saying, the guy was very vocal even before he was asked to leave
Link to that? I've read quite a few things now and the gist is that they offered $400, then $800, then selected people. You are saying he got vocal during the $400 and $800 phase? I'm very surprised that United didn't mention this in any of their press releases as that would give them a reason to deplane him (or whatever silly verb the yanks use).
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The plot thickens, they are digging the shit up on him now:---
http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/...MYL?li=BBoPWjQ
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Re: Passenger dragged off overbooked plane
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Originally Posted by
lardy
United Airlines had an overbooked plane. They asked for volunteers to take a later flight and resorted to dragging a resisting passenger down the aisle. This is the best summing up of all the different clips I've found:
https://www.buzzfeed.com/aliciamelvi...er-the-airline
It seems as if there should be something more to the story than this but I'm not sure there is. United have already put out a press release pretty much confirming why it happened (someone didn't want to be a volunteer so they were forcibly removed from their seat).
Hope this guy sues and wins bigly.
This sort of crap belongs on facecloth not here.
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Re: Passenger dragged off overbooked plane
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Originally Posted by
Taunton Blue Genie
Not Easyjet then.
If it was EasyJet, he'd have been charged an extra £20 to cover the cost of being dragged off.
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Re: Passenger dragged off overbooked plane
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Originally Posted by
BLUETIT
Starting to make sense now.
He probably asked to get tossed off (the plane).
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Americans appear to have gone soft . In the past he would have been dragged off the plane, then shot dead for being non white.
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They may be attempting to smear the wrong bloke.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">So.. as it turns out 'The Meeja' confused United Dave Dao with another Dave Dao and now they all stand to be sued for defamation. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/United?src=hash">#United</a> <a href="https://t.co/7VJU9kyvVi">pic.twitter.com/7VJU9kyvVi</a></p>— Claire Connelly (@_ClaireConnelly) <a href="https://twitter.com/_ClaireConnelly/status/852036052286033921">April 12, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Originally Posted by
Wales-Bales
If it was EasyJet, he'd have been charged an extra £20 to cover the cost of being dragged off.
They have got it right.
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Re: Passenger dragged off overbooked plane
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Originally Posted by
Charlie
They may be attempting to smear the wrong bloke.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">So.. as it turns out 'The Meeja' confused United Dave Dao with another Dave Dao and now they all stand to be sued for defamation. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/United?src=hash">#United</a> <a href="https://t.co/7VJU9kyvVi">pic.twitter.com/7VJU9kyvVi</a></p>— Claire Connelly (@_ClaireConnelly) <a href="https://twitter.com/_ClaireConnelly/status/852036052286033921">April 12, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Oh please be true, that is hilarious
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Daily Mail went all in as well.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Looking forward to seeing how much this one costs you, <a href="https://twitter.com/DailyMailUK">@DailyMailUK</a> 🍿 <a href="https://t.co/Xbk7i0Yp9R">pic.twitter.com/Xbk7i0Yp9R</a></p>— hrtbps (@hrtbps) <a href="https://twitter.com/hrtbps/status/852088424576274432">April 12, 2017</a></blockquote>
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This doctor will be able to retire soon enough. Wish I was lucky enough to get beaten up on a plane.
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Re: Passenger dragged off overbooked plane
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Originally Posted by
Wales-Bales
If it was EasyJet, he'd have been charged an extra £20 to cover the cost of being dragged off.
I'm glad you didn't say 'pulled off'.
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Originally Posted by
Charlie
They may be attempting to smear the wrong bloke.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">So.. as it turns out 'The Meeja' confused United Dave Dao with another Dave Dao and now they all stand to be sued for defamation. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/United?src=hash">#United</a> <a href="https://t.co/7VJU9kyvVi">pic.twitter.com/7VJU9kyvVi</a></p>— Claire Connelly (@_ClaireConnelly) <a href="https://twitter.com/_ClaireConnelly/status/852036052286033921">April 12, 2017</a></blockquote>
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What an absolute clusterf@ck of a mess
:hehe:
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Originally Posted by
Charlie
They may be attempting to smear the wrong bloke.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">So.. as it turns out 'The Meeja' confused United Dave Dao with another Dave Dao and now they all stand to be sued for defamation. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/United?src=hash">#United</a> <a href="https://t.co/7VJU9kyvVi">pic.twitter.com/7VJU9kyvVi</a></p>— Claire Connelly (@_ClaireConnelly) <a href="https://twitter.com/_ClaireConnelly/status/852036052286033921">April 12, 2017</a></blockquote>
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:hehe:
It's the other Dave Dao I feel sorry for.
Now the whole world knows that he traded drugs for secret gay sex.
He probably thought he'd kept it all relatively quiet.
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Originally Posted by
Dr Lecter
:hehe:
It's the other Dave Dao I feel sorry for.
Now the whole world knows that he traded drugs for secret gay sex.
He probably thought he'd kept it all relatively quiet.
Must be why he doesn't go to games anymore.
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Originally Posted by
lardy
This doctor will be able to retire soon enough. Wish I was lucky enough to get beaten up on a plane.
I was thinking something similar.
Presented as a choice I'd take 10 mins of humiliation and a light beating in exchange for a long and opulent early retirement :hehe:
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Re: Passenger dragged off overbooked plane
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Originally Posted by
blue matt
Bingo, thats what reports are now saying, the guy was very vocal even before he was asked to leave
Think by now we can be very sure that this accusation is total bollocks.
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Originally Posted by
BLUETIT
His lawsuit is getting bigger every day. I really wouldn't be surprised if he gets settlement offers approaching eight figures in total.
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^^
I hadn't realised he had broken his nose and apparently 'needs reconstructive surgery', otherwise I may not have made light of his situation regards potential retirement lump sum above, but .. yeah...
I cant wait for the 'not-fake-news :shrug:' Mail to get sued into oblivion.
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Originally Posted by
Charlie
Daily Mail went all in as well.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Looking forward to seeing how much this one costs you, <a href="https://twitter.com/DailyMailUK">@DailyMailUK</a> 🍿 <a href="https://t.co/Xbk7i0Yp9R">pic.twitter.com/Xbk7i0Yp9R</a></p>— hrtbps (@hrtbps) <a href="https://twitter.com/hrtbps/status/852088424576274432">April 12, 2017</a></blockquote>
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In the thread about Ross Barkley/Sun journalism thread we branched out into how poor the journalism is in the mail etc. This seems to be a fantastic example of shoddy journalism and unnecessary reporting.
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Originally Posted by
lardy
Think by now we can be very sure that this accusation is total bollocks.
I missed it to be fair
I was going on a news report on CNN about it ( which was on the day i posted it )