There is no way 90% of Cardiff fans back then were nutters.
You say there are "millions" of extremist Muslims. Pure conjecture.
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The Americans would only accept unconditional surrender. This, some argue, prolonged the war. Others argue that it prevented future conflicts.
The Japanese Council was split (after the first bomb) on whether to surrender conditionally. They were hoping to negotiate with Russia, who had only just declared war on the Japanese themselves. The military wanted to keep on fighting and when Hirohito ordered surrender, there was an attempt to overthrow him by the military. It's the Russian invasion that forced the Japanese to surrender -in my opinion. The Americans had two bombs and had used them both, and the Japanese had resisted surrender during the fire bombing campaign.
Whilst I agree that the western world interfering in other countries does contribute to a hostile feeling, isis and their followers are on a jihad,they are taking the Koran to it's word. They shout allahu akbar when carrying out atrocities, not get out of our countries. There are citizens of countries never invaded, 3 from Cardiff! I'm afraid Islam and Islamic radicalisation is at the heart of this, they want their caliphate and no amount of foreign policy will alter that aim. Sad that in the 21st century people still kill for a fairy tale.
ffs indeed.
You and Silures seem happy to conflate the innocent victims of American bombs with the brutal military regime that ran the state where they happened to live. You can argue that bombing civilians produces terror and reduces morale to the point where a political objective is achieved (surrender) but I will not accept that the victims deserved their fate. They didn't murder Chinese children. I don't understand how people can approve of collective punishment based on race or nationality on the grounds that it is deserved or some type of justice. A pragmatic 'lesser of two evils' argument maybe, but not that.
Yes, three from Cardiff so we need to understand WHY three Cardiff born lads suddenly felt the need to go to another country to fight, and the go about curing the disease and not just treat (bomb) the symptoms.
Of course radicalisation is at the heart of this, it surely we have to ask why only a minority allow themselves to be radicalised?
What your suggesting is similar to condemning Catholic, like me, for the crimes of the IRA, and go find out why THEY were formed in the first place, I think you'll find a common theme there.
We need solutions, you're not offering any I'm afraid, just reproducing more rhetoric.
Bollox. You had to be nuts to support Cardiff back in the day. What were fans going to watch? The great football on offer lol? And if you don't think there are millions of extremist muslims about in the world, then you need to dig your head out of the sand.whats the population of Saudi Arabia? There's your million without me even trying. This is the problem. No one makes excuses for any other religion, but everyone seems to want to jump to the defence of a religion with an idioligy that's says it's ok to murder gays, and woman who dare show to much flesh. Kill people who don't believe in that idioligy. Like I said....Fuk Muslim and islam. The sooner that religion is wiped out, the better
Wow, what a rant, and what amazing leaps of fantasy you take.
OK - by your new definition of the word "nutters" then 100% of us were nutters. You were implying something else though, let's not pretend that you weren't.
You're also changing your definition of extremists. Do you not think it is possible to have extreme views (you quote Saudi Arabia) without becoming terrorists?
Then you're claiming I am making excuses for the religion. I make no excuses for anyone. Most religions advocate murder as a form of punishment, the Bible says an eye for an eye. Try staying factual, because you're coming across as a Daily Express reader at present, scared shitless of the world that you live in.
Sorry you think it's just rhetoric, I knew it wouldn't be long before catholics and the Irish were mentioned, you asked me to find out why THEY, we're formed I don't have to, THEY, were formed to unify the island of Ireland hence the name, so the Irish REPUBLICAN army, we're not exclusively dedicated to bringing in a Catholic state. However the ISLAMIC state is. There are NO solutions because you CANNOT find common ground with people who wish you dead if you do not follow Islam.
The minority are radicalised because they are against the state, any state, there is massive radicalisation in our prison system, because the radicalised want someone, anyone to blame.
The three from Cardiff attended a mosque who's imam has openly said that white women can be made their sexual slaves. They went to the same school I attended many years before so had similar education and opportunities as me. I would say they were radicalised because they were taught in the mosque that they were superior.
Sorry for the caps but you started it, I just put forward a different viewpoint to you. I'm happy to be wrong for the sake of future generations of my family. I'm not sure I am though.
we have a mayor in London who happens to be a Muslim I don't know if he follows Islam or thinks the Koran is God's word, but I do know that his reaction to people being murdered is get used to it.
Here's an in-depth summary of events. http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v16/v16n3p-4_weber.html
The Yanks never started the war with the Japs. The Japs wanted it, they got what they deserved. As for the threat of a nuclear Holocaust. That threat is probably the only thing that's keeping the Savage human race from going full retard. I sometimes wish it would really kick off. A full scale nuclear war might save more people than all these scermishes that are constantly happening throughout the world
You know that do you?
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...yor-sadiq-khan
Yes I do actually, I can't link but if you can be bothered, to look it up the actual quote was its part and parcel of living in a major city.
[QUOTE=jon1959;4735684]You know that do you?
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...yor-sadiq-khan[/QUO
Yes actually, I do, Khan has quoted on television that it is part and parcel of living in a big city. Look it up, not fake news its there from him on camera. Hardly Churchillian. The rest of your quote says implicitly, I don't know.
Are you for real? In your full-scale nuclear war those who aren't instantly vapourised or incinerated in the fireball will die a slow agonising death from third degree burns or radiation sickness. There will be no safe place on the planet unless you live in North Korea where they seem to believe they will survive! (It's skirmishes by the way).
I'm all for different viewpoints mate, but what's the solution?
Btw, the Provisional IRA, emerged in the 60's, pretty much as a defensive counter to what they saw as having their homeland colonised by a foreign country and persecution of (in the north) a religious minority. Any of this sounding familiar?
Really? No where to hide? Fireballs? Well what the **** we waiting for. Let's get the fireworks started. although I'm sure humans would survive unfortunately, I'm mean we've survived a lot worse after all, like the toba eruption. And by the way. It's scermishes, when I've had a drink, so put your spell fairy wings away
I've already said that I don't believe there is a solution, However I'm a plumber so I don't know why you keep asking me. I do not know why you've posted about a religious minority at all, I'm sure you know that Muslims are not a minority in the middle east, I also don't think that the UK, France, USA, Germany, SWEDEN yes Sweden, are in the business of colonisation these days.
Sorry no it isn't familiar, we don't live in the 19th century.
It doesn't sound familiar, and please don't think you are conversing with a bigot. A link for you.
The Provisional Irish Republican Army (PIRA) is a militant, nationalist organisation which aims at ending British rule in Northern Ireland by violent means and at establishing a united Irish republic.
I don't think for one minute that I'm conversing with a bigot mate, and fwiw I don't think a plumbers opinion is any less valid than anyone else's.
We have however seen some bigoted views here, and I guess my point is that if we just keep slagging off muslims, we're not going to improve things, in fact we risk further alienating that community and creating more resentment among those who could end up being radicalised. Hate breeds hate as it were.
Assuming it happened? Theres plenty of satalite images to show it did happen, infact, there is no dispute that it didn't happen between geologists, scientists ect. And yes, a super eruption doesn't produce radioactive fallout, but it does produce a nuclear winter, that lasts for decades. If you add up all the the nuclear stockpile of today, it adds up to about 6.500 megatons...If put together into one bomb, enough to obliterate half the united States (not including the fallout after the initial blast) Far less than a super eruption would produce. Infact, humans probably dump that amount of shit into the atmosphere every decade. Would a nuclear war Fuk up our cosey life? Damn right it would. Would humans survive a nuclear war? Most definitely. There are far worse things to worry about than a nuclear war. The way humans treat our planet is one of them
This is scary stuff. Even scarier if we replaced Manhattan with Cardiff. The atom bombs dropped on Japan were tiny compared to what some countries have today.
"What would happen if an 800-kiloton nuclear warhead detonated over midtown Manhattan?"
http://thebulletin.org/what-would-ha...clear-warhead-...
The initial fireball. The warhead would probably be detonated slightly more than a mile above the city, to maximize the damage created by its blast wave. Within a few tenths of millionths of a second after detonation, the center of the warhead would reach a temperature of roughly 200 million degrees Fahrenheit (about 100 million degrees Celsius), or about four to five times the temperature at the center of the sun.
A ball of superheated air would form, initiallly expanding outward at millions of miles per hour. It would act like a fast-moving piston on the surrounding air, compressing it at the edge of the fireball and creating a shockwave of vast size and power.
After one second, the fireball would be roughly a mile in diameter. It would have cooled from its initial temperature of many millions of degrees to about 16,000 degrees Fahrenheit, roughly 4,000 degrees hotter than the surface of the sun.
On a clear day with average weather conditions, the enormous heat and light from the fireball would almost instantly ignite fires over a total area of about 100 square miles
No survivors. Within tens of minutes, everything within approximately five to seven miles of Midtown Manhattan would be engulfed by a gigantic firestorm. The fire zone would cover a total area of 90 to 152 square miles (230 to 389 square kilometers). The firestorm would rage for three to six hours. Air temperatures in the fire zone would likely average 400 to 500 degrees Fahrenheit (200 to 260 Celsius).
After the fire burned out, the street pavement would be so hot that even tracked vehicles could not pass over it for days. Buried, unburned material from collapsed buildings throughout the fire zone could burst into flames when exposed to air—months after the firestorm had ended.
Those who tried to escape through the streets would have been incinerated by the hurricane-force winds filled with firebrands and flames. Even those able to find shelter in the lower-level sub-basements of massive buildings would likely suffocate from fire-generated gases or be cooked alive as their shelters heated to oven-like conditions.
The fire would extinguish all life and destroy almost everything else. Tens of miles downwind of the area of immediate destruction, radioactive fallout would begin to arrive within a few hours of the detonation.
some faggot is going round running into people and shooting cops what a ****ing faggot ****