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Trust me when I say that the NHS is a lot better at paying less for supplies than most other healthcare providers.Quote:
Originally Posted by LordKenwyne
We sell stuff to the states for literally double the price sometimes.
I will be voting Labour.My vote will count for nothing as I am in a true blue seat. Con will win a majority. I just hope its as small as possible. May is as wooden as it gets
May is terrible, saying that Corbyn should focus on Brexit as opposed to the election, that she called. I mean, honestly! A victory for me would be a coalition gov or a small minority Tory gov. I think come 2022 we will have a majority Labour gov but God knows what we'll come back to!Quote:
Originally Posted by Pearcey3
Labour w@nkers. Same old, same old.
Corbyn gets a bump for turning up to the leaders debate.
Meanwhile the vacuous President May said she prefers to take questions from her hand-picked bunch of followers, as they are easier to answer.
Tori getting a lot of airtime this morning. I've heard Boris speak on 3 different platforms already. I can't get away from the fool.
BTW if you want the Conservatives out, this handy little website will show you how to do it https://www.tactical2017.com
Essentially, just vote Labour...Quote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
Unless there is a Plaid, Lib Dem, Green etc MP that is more likely to win. Take Cheadle, there is no way a Labour candidate will get in, but currently Lib Dem have just about held it since 1992. In most circumstances, in England especially, it is vote Labour.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zenith
There's a lot that needs to turn red on here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa
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How do I change my vote, niniancuck has convinced me to vote Conservative.
In that case, go here:Quote:
Originally Posted by Pearcey3
https://www.tactical2017.com/
Boris is working against the Tories, so the more airtime the better.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPPyBLC5ddM
Not here in Cheltenham, Labour have no chance. Lib Dems lost seat to Conservatives last time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zenith
Yes there are many areas in England where Lib Dems are are much closer second, including a lot of Surrey where I used to live.Quote:
Originally Posted by Baloo
Agreed Baloo. I wluld vote Lib Dem in Cheltenham. Where I live its part of the Cotswolds where Con will win easily so I might as well vote Labour.Quote:
Originally Posted by Baloo
I hope people vote for who they believe in and encourage others to get out and do the same. It looks like it will be pissing down but you know your pro-nuclear war auntie Doris will be out at 7am so please go out and match her effort.
Who am I voting for? I don't believe this country can withstand more cuts ("efficiency savings"); needs investment in infrastructure, schools, the NHS beyond moving small amounts of money around and spending big on projects like grammar schools; needs (perhaps most importantly) to have better than a government strolling into a majority on the basis of front pages slating the opposition and not much else.
It's reported the Greens apparently tried to initiate a pact with Lib Dems and Labour to unseat Cons in Stroud, Gloucester and Cheltenham through tactical voting. Would require impressive co-ordination.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pearcey3
If I had a proper choice of all parties, I would vote for the Greens but we don't have a candidate in our area. However, this election is about keeping the tories out.
Labour have won me over, especially with free education - I think that's a huge step in the right direction.
Balanced view
http://www.facebook.com/BBCScotland/...9199216109836/
We are so spoilt for choice I can't make up my mind.
There are 4 certainties in life today. Death, taxes, the conservatives will win and the NHS will get privatised inside the next 4 yrs.
Which too big to jail and too big to fail banker lackey would you prefer to be fecked over by? Please select one from the list of candidates to ensure your continued debt enslavement.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mrs Steve R
The above should be added to every ballot paper.
I've never voted in a general election untill today,
I'm voting labour :ayatollah:
I have a feeling it will be one of those nights when i yet again lose faith in humanity after a tory landslide.
I don't for the life of me understand how anyone can vote for them after the vile campaign they have run assisted by the bbc and the tabloids.
Even if i was a conservative supporter, i would be so annoyed with Theresa May. She has taken the absolute piss out of her loyals by not turning up to any public radio show or debate. Just expecting people to turn up and vote for her after a shambolic leader/PM performance.
I think the Labour campaign has been overhyped. I voted Labour and, while Corbyn has impressed me, it's still a party whose MPs are unwilling to support Corbyn. If he is, by some miracle, the PM in 24 hours, they will all go crawling back. It's a party of petulant people - including the man I voted for.Quote:
Originally Posted by thehumblegringo
Mrs Steve and Organ Morgan often complain about the extra surveillance that now takes place here. One party is openly threatening our human rights to save us from rare acts of terrorism. I'm wondering why you don't feel the need to vote against that?
It's clear she will not be the PM at the next election.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zenith
As you alluded to snooping, it's a common myth that one's vote is secret. It isn't as it's simplicity for the state to check who every voter placed their cross next to.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kris
To digress, whatever reforms the Tories make to human rights or any other laws, a future Labour Government or future Labour led Government will retain. Both major parties have played that same game for eons; oppose whilst in Opposition, continue when in Government.
And as I hinted at in a message further up this thread, voting for any of the major parties is a personal endorsement for private commercial banks to create 97% of the money supply from nothing as credit that's backed by hot air to then charge interest on what they lend. Whatever the make up of the next Parliament, the guaranteed winner, as always, will be the City of London.
France's socialists just basically die. The lowest approval ratings for a president of ALL TIME.
And we think empowering a socialist during brexit is a good idea.
I mean, I hope I am wrong I really do. I won't be voting for the conservatives. It isn't hard to see why people are voting for Labour either!.
But it is such a risk. A huge move for the UK. I don't think people are talking enough about how much it'll turn things on its head
I think business will scarper after this. If there were questions about London being the financial centre of Europe and fighting for no.1 in the world, I think those questions are dead. It won't be.
Or the strange world of those labour voters who voted out with teh Brexit vote , now voting Labour who may form a coalition with SNP .Liberals , Greens and force a new deal which still has freedom of movement, and a then a new referendum vote on accepting the new deal , and we stay in """ such fun "" . :hehe:Quote:
Originally Posted by BLUEAWAY
Might explain why the European leaders have been chirping away at bad old May ??
Contradictions all over the shop.Quote:
Originally Posted by life on mars
Remain voters that banged on about business doing a runner because of the end of free trade, now happy for Labour to throw the kitchen sink at business :hehe:
Its a protest vote .
It's a risk but it's a risk we have to take to stop people dying.Quote:
Originally Posted by LordKenwyne
I guess you mean saving the NHS?. Which is fair enough. I trust Labour more on that. This labour government, not past.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa
But................
The level of debt corbyn is going to rack up could it be said to be simply kicking the can down the road?.
The NHS was terrible in my area in the past. It is terrible now. I hold absolutely no hope it will change.
People have had enough for austerity though. They want results now. The consequences have barely been discussed.
And If it all goes to shit, Labour voters will just say their efforts were commendable as they wanted a nicer future for the poorest. Nothing about it being reckless.
Under both the Tory and labour plans, when reviewed by independent economists both return the defecit to surplus in the same year.Quote:
Originally Posted by LordKenwyne
We'll see.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rjk
Or, we'll never know!.
Where can I vote against that policy? I can't, I can vote against that party in the hope that they don't get in that's all, personally I don't think that's much of a say on an issue like that do you? I think we should be able to vote on the smaller things and shape the country how the public want it, not leave it in the hands of a chosen few who promise the world and do exactly what they like once they get in, they don't represent us at all after election day, consulting the public on new laws ect should be an ongoing thing imoQuote:
Originally Posted by Kris
Anyway, I wasn't saying I'm not voting, I was just saying what a shower of sh*t they all are. :-)