This media nonsense regarding Trump and Russia

Trump is fronting the neocon agenda. Doesn't that make him one of the baddies? What they're doing in Syria is incredible. They are attacking the Syrian military and keep using self defence as the pretext. It's akin to a burglar entering someone's home to boot the family pet because the pooch could potentially bite the crim who has no business being in the property. It's more incredible that the corporate media are running with this arse-backwards narrative.

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Originally Posted by Wales-Bales

I'm not defending him, just pointing out that most of the media aren't to be trusted. If Trump has done something wrong he will be prosecuted and removed from office. They tried to do it through lies and they have failed.

BTW why would you prefer to have Hillary in charge of the world?

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him or hillary, two sides of the same coin, i get confused, organ seems to think he's part of the establishment, you don't seem to sure but are happy to defend him in case he isn't

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Originally Posted by Packerman

him or hillary, two sides of the same coin, i get confused, organ seems to think he's part of the establishment, you don't seem to sure but are happy to defend him in case he isn't

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I'm still on the fence, but I can see everybody is desperate to get rid of him, even before he became president. So you have to wonder what is the reason for that :sherlock: Time will tell I guess.

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Originally Posted by Wales-Bales

I'm still on the fence, but I can see everybody is desperate to get rid of him, even before he became president. So you have to wonder what is the reason for that :sherlock: Time will tell I guess.

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Well, 'rightly or wrongly' I'd guess that his ignorant, arrogant, 'right-wing', cock-waving roadshows - and the heee-haaaw types a'whooping for it - probably caused some concern among much of society.

I mean , we shouldn't be swayed by appearances. But this was his message, his style and his routine. And it was bound to polarise.
Plus he comes across as full of sh*t. As apposed to the more cleverly concealed full of sh*t that people are used to.

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Originally Posted by Wales-Bales

The DM are the only media organisation who are reporting WHAT IS HAPPENING IN CONGRESS!

With regards to Trump being a prick, it has nothing to do with the mainstream media lying to you. If you were a critical thinker you would be questioning what other lies you have absorbed as fact.

You say I have an agenda, but I have consistently called out this Russian narrative as being fake news right from the very beginning. And you had better get used to it, because there is going to be a lot more bad news coming out regarding the Democrats.

I just call it as I see it. The Democrats are crooked and the Tories are crooked. If I see Trump or Corbyn doing crooked things, I will be the first to point them out.

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Again you come across as condescending with your critical thinker line.
I do not need a newspaper article to see and think 'yeah they're right he's a prick ' to see that DT IS A COLLOSAL PRICK ( as you like capitals )
He comes across as a seedy opportunist, playing on the God Fearing bible bashing inward thinking American who believes in creationism and a return to the slave trade.
He's as much establishment as any of the rest of them,

As for the stories about the Democrats then so be it ( if you're right but I'd suggest you're as clueless as the rest of us fella)

RT estimate CNN has mentioned Russia 16,000 times since Trump's inauguration in January. The idea being to implant the idea Russia's a threat through endless repetition.

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Originally Posted by Organ Morgan.

RT estimate CNN has mentioned Russia 16,000 times since Trump's inauguration in January. The idea being to implant the idea Russia's a threat through endless repetition.

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I'm amazed that some people are trying to justify being lied to by the free press on the basis that they have a negative opinion about Trump. They are not thinking about what other topics they could have been mislead on. The press prey on people's ignorance, knowing that they will swallow any BS that is thrown at them. It's very sad and disturbing in equal measures.

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Originally Posted by CardiffIrish2

As for the stories about the Democrats then so be it ( if you're right but I'd suggest you're as clueless as the rest of us fella)

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I wish I was as clueless as you instead of knowing about all the stuff they have been up to. You can't blame ignorance on the fact that the MSM don't report certain things.

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Originally Posted by Organ Morgan.

Trump is fronting the neocon agenda. Doesn't that make him one of the baddies? What they're doing in Syria is incredible. They are attacking the Syrian military and keep using self defence as the pretext. It's akin to a burglar entering someone's home to boot the family pet because the pooch could potentially bite the crim who has no business being in the property. It's more incredible that the corporate media are running with this arse-backwards narrative.

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"President Donald Trump ignored important intelligence reports when he decided to attack Syria after he saw pictures of dying children. Seymour M. Hersh investigated the case of the alleged Sarin gas attack."

https://www.welt.de/politik/ausland/...-Red-Line.html

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Originally Posted by Wales-Bales

I'm amazed that some people are trying to justify being lied to by the free press on the basis that they have a negative opinion about Trump. They are not thinking about what other topics they could have been mislead on. The press prey on people's ignorance, knowing that they will swallow any BS that is thrown at them. It's very sad and disturbing in equal measures.

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Yes, I concur. So many simply don't want to know the truth, many others just don't care. I suppose they are content with their lot and will remain apathetic for as long as they're comfortable with their lives. Even casual observers of economics and finance should intuitively know there's something seriously awry when asset bubbles are everywhere as far as the eye can see. The ones in crypto currencies could be the most concerning. Ethereum went from $10 at the start of the year to $350 a few days back. That was a steeper rise than the South Sea Bubble or Tulip Mania Bubble saw or any other bubble I know of in recorded history.

And I would like to now where is all the dodgy stuff about Trump is that the Russians allegedly had , and wheres the Clinton stuff ?? nothing has come out of any real bite other than your usual snooping which we invented,the sanctions are still there ,there is dusts up in Syria , and finger pointing by the yanks and UK , there are troop maneuvers on the Russian border , more sanctions, cozying up to Saudi and Israel , stealth bombers in the in the UK , all winding up the Russkies ,and nothing of note from the alleged dossiers or wrongdoings .

Fake news indeed

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Originally Posted by life on mars

And I would like to now where is all the dodgy stuff about Trump is that the Russians allegedly had , and wheres the Clinton stuff ?? nothing has come out of any real bite other than your usual snooping which we invented,the sanctions are still there ,there is dusts up in Syria , and finger pointing by the yanks and UK , there are troop maneuvers on the Russian border , more sanctions, cozying up to Saudi and Israel , stealth bombers in the in the UK , all winding up the Russkies ,and nothing of note from the alleged dossiers or wrongdoings .

Fake news indeed

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The Trump stuff is obviously a fake news distraction. The Hillary/Obama shitfest is still coming :biggrin:

Here is a Twitter post Trump posted earlier today. Critics of his might have a worse opinion of him after watching the video.

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...restling-match

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Originally Posted by Organ Morgan.

Here is a Twitter post Trump posted earlier today. Critics of his might have a worse opinion of him after watching the video.

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...restling-match

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Is this a fake of a fake, fake news fake thing or has Captain Chaos actually tweeted this?

If so, perhaps Theresa May should post a meme of herself grinning while apparently squatting over what appears to be a sodden picture of the Guardian Editor - on the official UK PM Twitter account - coz' she 'won big', and well.. it's freedom of speech, which she is 'entitled to like everybody else'.
And that's OK... It's the new Politics.