Homophobic chanting (HC) the new arrestable offence at football.

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Originally Posted by lardy

The sheepshaggers is not quite the same as no one actually shags sheep.

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Really?
Pah, just me again! :hide:

Just because she follows all those conspiracy websites doesn't mean she's a sheep pal

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Originally Posted by Steve R

Really?
Pah, just me again! :hide:

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oooooops:facepalm:

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Originally Posted by lardy

The sheepshaggers is not quite the same as no one actually shags sheep.

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:getscoat:

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Originally Posted by Steve R

Really?
Pah, just me again! :hide:

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Originally Posted by Kitman

Couldn't disagree more, under this criteria that "Your just a town full of P*ki's" chant at Bradford fans would be deemed appropriate

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Has the added complication that the p word is clearly meant to be offensive. "Does your boyfriend know your here" doesn't include any offensive words and therefore you have to look at it a little closer.

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Originally Posted by surge

Has the added complication that the p word is clearly meant to be offensive. "Does your boyfriend know your here" doesn't include any offensive words and therefore you have to look at it a little closer.

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Ok so if the chant was "town full of Pakistani's" that's would be ok? No offensive words in there either

Come on fella. The gay chant is offensive to people. it really isn't that hard to grasp

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Originally Posted by Kitman

Ok so if the chant was "town full of Pakistani's" that's would be ok? No offensive words in there either

Come on fella. The gay chant is offensive to people. it really isn't that hard to grasp

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I haven't said it's not offensive. I don't immediately see it as offensive though and may need a conversation with a gay person to understand better, but then sometimes people who are gay need to converse to understand better about other people covered by LGBTQ+ as (I believe I am right in saying) you can see when GLC were booked for pride. But there are things which are easier to see immediately as offensive such as songs about, well, you can imagine.

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Originally Posted by surge

I haven't said it's not offensive. I don't immediately see it as offensive though and may need a conversation with a gay person to understand better, but then sometimes people who are gay need to converse to understand better about other people covered by LGBTQ+ as (I believe I am right in saying) you can see when GLC were booked for pride. But there are things which are easier to see immediately as offensive such as songs about, well, you can imagine.

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I understand the phrase LGBT but what does the Q+ stand for? Never seen that included

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Originally Posted by El Gwapo

I understand the phrase LGBT but what does the Q+ stand for? Never seen that included

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Quinoa

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Originally Posted by itkman

Quinoa

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Thats just plain seedy

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Originally Posted by itkman

Quinoa

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Always thought it was the effeminate one on the plate

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Originally Posted by El Gwapo

I understand the phrase LGBT but what does the Q+ stand for? Never seen that included

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My understanding, though too vague, was that it helps expand on people who identify as queer but not necessarily as LGBT. Turns out it's for queer or questioning however more traditionally a plus symbol is used to help cover this (and other), whereas I merged two ideas.

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Originally Posted by Croesy Blue

Just because she follows all those conspiracy websites doesn't mean she's a sheep pal

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:hehe:

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Originally Posted by El Gwapo

I understand the phrase LGBT but what does the Q+ stand for? Never seen that included

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This might help..

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So the term queer is acceptable again? I cant keep up.

I can't say that I have ever felt the need to chant insults to anyone whatsoever at a sporting occasion.

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Originally Posted by El Gwapo

I understand the phrase LGBT but what does the Q+ stand for? Never seen that included

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LGBT = :tbg: with lettuce

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Originally Posted by El Gwapo

So the term queer is acceptable again? I cant keep up.

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It's reclaimed but one of these words that some people in the LGBT+ community don't necessarily like so it depends on person to person

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Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie

I can't say that I have ever felt the need to chant insults to anyone whatsoever at a sporting occasion.

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Its because you aren't a simpleton

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Originally Posted by adz-a32

It's reclaimed but one of these words that some people in the LGBT+ community don't necessarily like so it depends on person to person

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Oh that is OK then. Uncomplicated as always. Do we need to enquire tentatively and gently on a person by person basis then?

Or , best not use it at all perhaps.

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Originally Posted by El Gwapo

I understand the phrase LGBT but what does the Q+ stand for? Never seen that included

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I thought I understood most of the acronyms and definitions around gender and identity, but I only found out what 'gay' means yesterday.

I always assumed it was just a word adopted and redefined by homosexuals and lesbians to mean positive, joyous and happy in their sexuality. I was told yesterday that the origin is an acronym for 'Good As You'. I never knew that!

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Originally Posted by adz-a32

It's reclaimed but one of these words that some people in the LGBT+ community don't necessarily like so it depends on person to person

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Another offensive word reclaimed by the minorities :shrug:

At this rate us heterosexual white males won't have any words left we can use!!!

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Originally Posted by jon1959

I thought I understood most of the acronyms and definitions around gender and identity, but I only found out what 'gay' means yesterday.

I always assumed it was just a word adopted and redefined by homosexuals and lesbians to mean positive, joyous and happy in their sexuality. I was told yesterday that the origin is an acronym for 'Good As You'. I never knew that!

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Perhaps Adz can clear this one up

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Originally Posted by J R Hartley

Another offensive word reclaimed by the minorities :shrug:

At this rate us heterosexual white males won't have any words left we can use!!!

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Yes you can just don't say anything racist or homophobic, it isn't hard is it?

Those bloody minorities getting everything!

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Originally Posted by Sgt. Pepper

Oh that is OK then. Uncomplicated as always. Do we need to enquire tentatively and gently on a person by person basis then?

Or , best not use it at all perhaps.

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Not complicated don't say anything racist or homophobic, quite easy actually. Don't discriminate against other human beings.

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Originally Posted by Croesy Blue

Yes you can just don't say anything racist or homophobic, it isn't hard is it?

Those bloody minorities getting everything!

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No problem, as long as you don't go reclaiming the word ****

Weird little man

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Originally Posted by Sgt. Pepper

Oh that is OK then. Uncomplicated as always. Do we need to enquire tentatively and gently on a person by person basis then?

Or , best not use it at all perhaps.

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Originally Posted by Croesy Blue

Not complicated don't say anything racist or homophobic, quite easy actually. Don't discriminate against other human beings.

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Indeed, not complicated.
Except for those who actually like to make things more complicated.

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Originally Posted by Croesy Blue

Weird little man

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Are you having a pop at 'the weird'? - or men? - or small people?

Just don't. Easy to avoid it. Just stop.

It's true of any sort of insult though it isn't insulting if it's said by the person, it isn't complicated in the slightest. I don't understand why people who aren't gay are so desperate to say it nor why they're so annoyed that gay people can.

It's a bizarre form of privileged that doesn't even offer any benefits.

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Originally Posted by Sgt. Pepper

Are you having a pop at 'the 'weird'? - or men? - or small people?

Just don't. Easy to avoid it. Just stop.

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Being a weird man I can say what I like about it.

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Originally Posted by Croesy Blue

Being a weird man I can say what I like about it.

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No you cant. As a different kind of weird man I am offended. So you must stop.

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Originally Posted by Croesy Blue

It's true of any sort of insult though it isn't insulting if it's said by the person, it isn't complicated in the slightest. I don't understand why people who aren't gay are so desperate to say it nor why they're so annoyed that gay people can.

It's a bizarre form of privileged that doesn't even offer any benefits.

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I agree with you TBH.

I understand the phrase LGBT but what does the Q+ stand for? Never seen that included.

The Q is for questioning.
Introduced by the leftie liberals to cover young pre school children that are questioning their sexuality. This is genuine. All dross if you ask me.
LBGTQ.
I am coming out and identifying as a Sikorsky Helicopter. So I want it to be referred to as
LBGTQSK.
You all okay with that?:hehe:

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Originally Posted by J R Hartley

Another offensive word reclaimed by the minorities :shrug:

At this rate us heterosexual white males won't have any words left we can use!!!

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Boo hoo, that's nothing compared to your freedom from any homo/bi/transphobia, racism and sexism

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Originally Posted by Croesy Blue

Who'd have thought a gay man who had a difficult upbringing and then was thrust into the limelight would have a few mental issues and make bad decisions.

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Poor little lamb.
He killed himself rather than face a trial and Justice in Maryland.
Nothing more.
Nothing Less.

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

We sang that at both Bradford and Oldham fans , ****ing shameful , no wonder we have hardly any Asian fans despite a large Asian population on the doorstep of Cardiff city stadium

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All the Asians I know 'support' Arsenal

That gay fella 'H' out of the pop group Steps should get married to Mr C out of the Shamen, they would save £££s on personalised taps for their new home.

Gareth Thomas's BBC documentary on homophobia in football https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RaBEdmU67Y convinced me that football is unique among major sports for its level of homophobia.

Also exposes the FA & other bodies as doing feck all to stamp it out.

Why are so many gay Championship players (statistically, there must be tons) living a lie by not coming out? Simple. Because they're scared of how we, the fans, would treat them. Football really needs a Gareth Thomas to come out & shame everyone involved in football into action.

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Originally Posted by Dublinblue

Gareth Thomas's BBC documentary on homophobia in football https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RaBEdmU67Y convinced me that football is unique among major sports for its level of homophobia.

Also exposes the FA & other bodies as doing feck all to stamp it out.

Why are so many gay Championship players (statistically, there must be tons) living a lie by not coming out? Simple. Because they're scared of how we, the fans, would treat them. Football really needs a Gareth Thomas to come out & shame everyone involved in football into action.

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Or maybe they just don't think it's anybody else's business?

Which it isn't.

I couldn't give a shit if a player is gay or straight and I don't really understand why anyone else feels the need to know the sexuality of a complete stranger.