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Leicester had a diver and numerous dubious decisions go their way...Quote:
Originally Posted by J R Hartley
Arsenal's squad lacks any semblance of a quality defence. That's on Wenger. He doesn't even have the nous to set up tactically to protect his defence.
Aye, Liverpool really looked clueless out there this afternoon.:facepalm:Quote:
Originally Posted by Rhiw-Blue
Carragher really went in on Ramsey, barely mentioned any other Arsenal player despite the rest being atrocious, and Ramsey being taken off at half-time, what's he got against him?
Selective hearing. He went in on Xhaka, Ozil, Sanchez, Ox Chamberlain, Wenger, and the Arsenal board.Quote:
Originally Posted by City123
Gary Neville also called out every one of the 5 midfield / wide players.
Perhaps he went in so hard on Ramsey because as a central midfielder he didn't protect his defence, and was way, way out of position for both goals conceded first half.
If that was a piss poor Liverpool side I'd hate to see them on a bad day.
Defensively, Liverpool are poor. Them dominating a piss poor side today doesn't make them Barcelona.Quote:
Originally Posted by J R Hartley
Henry reckoned Wenger said he plays him to make those runs. Seems suicidal with the way they set-up.Quote:
Originally Posted by J R Hartley
No offence meant, I know you're a closet Scouser but they are a disaster defensively. Anything in the air in their box and they are very vulnerable. Any corner, any free kick and they panic. We've seen it multiple times already this season. Of course Arsenals arrogance ignored the opponents major weakness which is a sin in itself.Quote:
Originally Posted by J R Hartley
You can't judge a side on a performance against that Arsenal side so I'd keep a level head about your chances for this season if I were you. Can't see top 4 myself, do you?
It doesn't make them a 'piss poor team' eitherQuote:
Originally Posted by ccfc_is_my_life
The problem they have with the way they play they're going to struggle against sides sitting backQuote:
Originally Posted by J R Hartley
Top 4 going to be tough this year the two mancs as 1 and 2 with Jose edging it imoQuote:
Originally Posted by Rhiw-Blue
Not a closet scouser just someone who appreciates good football and Liverpool are the most exciting team to watch going forward in the premier league.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rhiw-Blue
If that leaves then exposed in defence so be it I'd rather see a team try to outscore the opposition than stick 11 men behind the ball playing anti football
It just means they are better than Arsenal... way Arsenal played today, could say the same about many Prem teams.Quote:
Originally Posted by J R Hartley
Like Arsenal, Liverpool need to score heavily to make up for their poor defence. Can't rely upon that over a whole season.
That is where they struggle. Their record against the top teams is really good under KloppQuote:
Originally Posted by jamieccfc
Arsenal in disarray and Spurs struggling at Wembley. 4th could be up for grabs for Liverpool.Quote:
Originally Posted by jamieccfc
That still doesn't make them 'piss poor'?!?!??Quote:
Originally Posted by ccfc_is_my_life
Arsenal have played the best football in the premiership for the last 10 years and won a couple of cups.Quote:
Originally Posted by J R Hartley
Defences win titles
Who said anything about Liverpool winning the title?!?!?Quote:
Originally Posted by Rhiw-Blue
Don't rate your chances then?Quote:
Originally Posted by J R Hartley
Arsenal were garbage last year and have started this season in similar vain. Winning a cup doesn't paper over the cracks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rhiw-Blue
I don't think City will win the championship but will make the play offsQuote:
Originally Posted by Rhiw-Blue
There was a solid block where Carragher just moaned about Ramsey, in fairness to Neville he spread the abuse around the sideQuote:
Originally Posted by J R Hartley
Carragher refused to listen to Henry who kept telling him why Ramsey was so far forward, Ramsey played very poorly but so did the rest of the side
Ramsey was the worst of a bad bunch. Obviously his own manager agreed as he hooked him off at HT.Quote:
Originally Posted by City123
After what Ramsey did for the first goal where him and ox chamberlain were having a little natter oblivious to the game going on then Carragher wouldn't be doing his job if he didn't point out how unprofessional and pathetic that was.
Welcome to... an audience with JR Hartley
Think we're having some good debate, I think he's made some good points hard to argue against what he's saidQuote:
Originally Posted by Eric Cartman
I'm sorry that posting football messages on a football message board upsets you so much.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eric Cartman
He already had, the post game rant about Ramsey was completely unnecessary, they brushed over Liverpool's last two goals. Xhaka, a "defensive" midfielder by trade was worse than Ramsey, that flick for Liverpool's first and trying to back heel it to Cech in the 6 yard box, what was he thinking!?!?Quote:
Originally Posted by J R Hartley
And what an inspired substitution that was...
What did he say about Holding he got slaughtered today on the pitch
Upsets me?Quote:
Originally Posted by J R Hartley
The defence had a free pass because they received zero protection from midfield.Quote:
Originally Posted by jamieccfc
Another decent football thread getting ruined. Sadly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eric Cartman
It is weird how Liverpool win a game and CCMB goes into meltdown with football discussion :hehe:
They've got an hour to fill after the game. They repeat themselves. Same every week. Perhaps Ramsey's actions were so bad it deserved that rant.Quote:
Originally Posted by City123
How anyone can defend a player being 60 yards out of position and turning his back to play whilst he has a chat to a team mate is beyond comprehension.
So he played for City, and plays for Wales, big deal. If he's abysmal, which he was, it deserves to be pointed out.
The most prominent is clearly a plastic Scouse. He doesn't nick hubcaps, he just borrows them and returns them with a polite note.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eric Cartman
Hilarious. You should try stand up.Quote:
Originally Posted by ccfc_is_my_life
I knew it wouldn't be long for the Rambo haters to crawl out of the woodwork at their club. Some of the comments about him from their so called supporters are a disgrace. Arsenal were no better without him in the second half. Yet he is always the one that gets the most hate. Wankers.
The sooner he leaves that club the better.
He had a mare did our Rambo, an utter utter shocker but then so did the rest of them. Bet their great hero ( Wiltshire ) wouldn't have got so much post much analysis.
As for that Sanchez if I was an Arsenal fan and saw that grin I'd be launching a bottle of Piss in his direction.
Well, probably not but I'd be miffed ...
Could've been anyone playing but the main topic of discussion is how bad arsenal areQuote:
Originally Posted by Eric Cartman
I loved it when he was subbed for Arsenal at the CCS in the premier year, he walked off the pitch to a chorus of 25,000 people chanting "your just a shit Aaron Ramsey" wonderful stuff and he's gone down hill mightily since that day.Quote:
Originally Posted by CardiffIrish2
Rambo was replaced with Coquelin, a defensive midfielder....but Coquelin was drifting forward, not protecting the defence whatsoever, exactly like Ramsey
Why? Are the Arsenal players given any clear instructions?