London Tube blast treated as terror incident

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Originally Posted by Wales-Bales

An injured fireball victim is led away, I wish her a speedy recovery

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/834/cp...f132390434.jpg

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that's an actress playing the part of a "victim" don't be taken in by it ladies and gents :thumbup:
question everything

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Originally Posted by Watcliff

Brother :hehe:

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sister :hehe:

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Originally Posted by blue matt

Not sure we made jokes / lighthearted comments about it as it was happening though, we were slightly more shocked

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Agreed, my point is that for most of my life the uk seems to have been pretty much under terrorist attack, so while the impact of the attacks remains shocking, the occurrence of them has become almost a normal hazard of daily life.

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Originally Posted by I.8.POLITICAL.CORRECTNESS

that's an actress playing the part of a "victim" don't be taken in by it ladies and gents :thumbup:
question everything

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I know this can and does happen, but why are you so sure that picture is fakery and that she is an actress in this instance?

if it is faked, what does the actress tell all of her family, friends and Social Media contacts? - 'hey now - shut up all of you lot and and just play along'?
That will work out well .. :rolleyes:

I can understand why Wales-Bales posted the insinuation prior to your post - he's got form for blanket stating that pretty much everything on MSM is a lie (aside from Fox, The Daily Maul and Breitbart).

While I can fully accept that it might be the case that this is an example of fakery, is there any real indication that this incident involved actors?

Is it just as dangerous to write off almost every major incident as 'fake'?

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Originally Posted by I.8.POLITICAL.CORRECTNESS

that's an actress playing the part of a "victim" don't be taken in by it ladies and gents :thumbup:
question everything

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[QUOTE=Sgt. Pepper;4784014]I know this can and does happen, but why are you so sure that picture is fakery and that she is an actress in this instance?

if it is faked, what does the actress tell all of her family, friends and Social Media contacts? - 'hey now - shut up all of you lot and and just play along'?
That will work out well .. :rolleyes:

I can understand why Wales-Bales posted the insinuation prior to your post - he's got form for blanket stating that pretty much everything on MSM is a lie (aside from Fox, The Daily Maul and Breitbart).

While I can fully accept that it might be the case that this is an example of fakery, is there any real indication that this incident involved actors?

Is it just as dangerous to write off almost every major incident as 'fake'?[/QUOT


its because as you say they do and have done this before
the pic even looks faked as if they are posed
and shouldn't the old bill be the other side of the "victim" because of her injury
nice photo op don't you think a pretty young girl
and even the old bills uniform looks far too small for her

so yeah I guess I don't think the pic is genuine brother

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Originally Posted by Nelsonca61

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as for the question, the people were injured by flash burns

listening to a bomb expert on TV, the bomb would have produced a fireball ( flash ) as it was not packed with nut and bolts etc etc to cause more damage

thus people have suffered burns

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Originally Posted by blue matt

as for the question, the people were injured by flash burns

listening to a bomb expert on TV, the bomb would have produced a fireball ( flash ) as it was not packed with nut and bolts etc etc to cause more damage

thus people have suffered burns

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I never listened to the bomb expert but would be interested to know how this fireball flash put 20 odd in hospital, but left the white plastic in almost pristine condition and 80% of the lidl bag intact :shrug:

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Originally Posted by blue matt

as for the question, the people were injured by flash burns

listening to a bomb expert on TV, the bomb would have produced a fireball ( flash ) as it was not packed with nut and bolts etc etc to cause more damage

thus people have suffered burns

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What a waste of 30 seconds listening to the bomb expert when you could have come on here instead, the expert was probably in on it and telling porkies, and the presenters, and the camera operators, runners, producer, sound department, graphics, all their families... All bloody in on it.

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Originally Posted by Nelsonca61

I never listened to the bomb expert but would be interested to know how this fireball flash put 20 odd in hospital, but left the white plastic in almost pristine condition and 80% of the lidl bag intact :shrug:

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This might be the first place to look then.

IMO it's time to ignore civil liberties and scoop up any potential terrorists that are on surveillance and being deemed as high risk.
It seems that this / these terrorists were known to the authorities.

Exactly!!! Wanda you reckon then ?

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Originally Posted by Sgt. Pepper

I know this can and does happen, but why are you so sure that picture is fakery and that she is an actress in this instance?

if it is faked, what does the actress tell all of her family, friends and Social Media contacts? - 'hey now - shut up all of you lot and and just play along'?
That will work out well .. :rolleyes:

I can understand why Wales-Bales posted the insinuation prior to your post - he's got form for blanket stating that pretty much everything on MSM is a lie (aside from Fox, The Daily Maul and Breitbart).

While I can fully accept that it might be the case that this is an example of fakery, is there any real indication that this incident involved actors?

Is it just as dangerous to write off almost every major incident as 'fake'?[/QUOT


its because as you say they do and have done this before
the pic even looks faked as if they are posed
and shouldn't the old bill be the other side of the "victim" because of her injury
nice photo op don't you think a pretty young girl
and even the old bills uniform looks far too small for her

so yeah I guess I don't think the pic is genuine brother

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And you may have guessed correctly. Or not.

As you said above, "always question everything".
That cuts both ways. Or rather, it should.

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Originally Posted by Nelsonca61

I never listened to the bomb expert but would be interested to know how this fireball flash put 20 odd in hospital, but left the white plastic in almost pristine condition and 80% of the lidl bag intact :shrug:

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the guy did explain how

the flash would have gone up from the bucket and as it hit the air, spread around

imagine a mushroom i guess

in a packed train carriage it is not unfeasible to think that would cause 20 people to have flash burns ( which is what they said they had )

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Originally Posted by blue matt

the guy did explain how

the flash would have gone up from the bucket and as it hit the air, spread around

imagine a mushroom i guess

in a packed train carriage it is not unfeasible to think that would cause 20 people to have flash burns ( which is what they said they had )

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Exactly. The chemical reaction was more likely to take effect outside of the plastic container.

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Originally Posted by I.8.POLITICAL.CORRECTNESS

that's an actress playing the part of a "victim" don't be taken in by it ladies and gents :thumbup:
question everything

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What is the actresses name?

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Originally Posted by Blue Tone

IMO it's time to ignore civil liberties and scoop up any potential terrorists that are on surveillance and being deemed as high risk.

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I forsee no problems whatsoever with this course of action.

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Originally Posted by Colonel Cærdiffi

I forsee no problems whatsoever with this course of action.

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He wud of noked them out.

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Originally Posted by Blue Tone

IMO it's time to ignore civil liberties and scoop up any potential terrorists that are on surveillance and being deemed as high risk.
It seems that this / these terrorists were known to the authorities.

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That's a really good idea.

They're doing something similar in the Philippines at the moment with drug addicts. It's quite important to give governments sweeping powers in the name of our security (feck me, isn't it all so dangerous these days?) and they will never abuse these powers right?

I'd be completely happy for the Government to put us all under surveillance for 24 hours a day (oh, we are already?) just to stop us getting our eyebrows singed by these bombs that are exploding at a rate of once every 10 years.

Perhaps I missed your point, and you are only talking about the brown people?

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Originally Posted by Colonel Cærdiffi

I forsee no problems whatsoever with this course of action.

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Me neither. It's a brilliant idea, I can't understand why no one has thought of it before. Guilty or not, round em up and put them all on Flatholm until they can prove that they won't blow anyone up.

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Originally Posted by I.8.POLITICAL.CORRECTNESS

And you may have guessed correctly. Or not.

As you said above, "always question everything".
That cuts both ways. Or rather, it should.

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yeah it certainly cuts both ways

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Originally Posted by I.8.POLITICAL.CORRECTNESS

that's an actress playing the part of a "victim" don't be taken in by it ladies and gents :thumbup:
question everything

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Actress:hehe:

Could you name her please.

Armed police at Stratford station today

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Originally Posted by adz-a32

Armed police at Stratford station today

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I expect the cast of Eastenders where out in force there then.

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Originally Posted by I.8.POLITICAL.CORRECTNESS

yeah it certainly cuts both ways

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That is why I asked whether it just as dangerous to write off the 'MSM' reporting of almost every major incident as likely 'fake' , or 'made up' or 'enacted'.

I used to think a little more along those lines myself. To a degree.
But I noticed some people suggesting that we should all think that way all of the time. I started asking myself why.

'Question everything' is good ;) :thumbup:

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Originally Posted by Badly Ironed Shirt

Exactly. The chemical reaction was more likely to take effect outside of the plastic container.

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Oi, you know your rules, you never agree with anything i say

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Originally Posted by Organ Morgan.

I wasn't advocating a news blackout but rather questioning why they always do exactly what the opponent desires, which is blanket coverage... sometimes for days on end. Aren't you curious too?

By the way, as predicted Irma wasn't nearly as devastating as meteorologists had thought until a few days before landfall. They then changed their forecasts, but the media pretended to be unaware so as to retain viewers via ramping fear. World stock markets surged on Monday as a consequence.

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This is absolute nonsense, the media reports information provided from the National Weather Center. Irma proved just as devastating as forecast. Ask the victims. Where are you getting your news from?

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Originally Posted by Badly Ironed Shirt

Exactly. The chemical reaction was more likely to take effect outside of the plastic container.

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BBC are still explaining it as an explosion!!!, I expect to see you on their website trolling their reporters, off you go.

If the bucket and everything in it were explosion proof, shouldn't we all be wearing buckets as a safety measure now , whilst we are waiting on the brown terrorists being rounded up?
I saw the photo of the bucket and was surprised how well it had survived.

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Originally Posted by Jimmy the Jock

If the bucket and everything in it were explosion proof, shouldn't we all be wearing buckets as a safety measure now , whilst we are waiting on the brown terrorists being rounded up?
I saw the photo of the bucket and was surprised how well it had survived.

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You need to look for the people who benefit most from these incidents, and it clearly appears to be bucket manufacturers and bucket shops. So call me a conspiracy theorist if you want, but I think we need to be looking closely at them.

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Originally Posted by lardy

You need to look for the people who benefit most from these incidents, and it clearly appears to be bucket manufacturers and bucket shops. So call me a conspiracy theorist if you want, but I think we need to be looking closely at them.

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Forget the bucket, how about the 5p Lidl bag.

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Originally Posted by Nelsonca61

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The strongest carrier bags on the market. Still only 10p while stocks last!!

Time to step up Tesco. :hehe:

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Originally Posted by Nelsonca61

Forget the bucket, how about the 5p Lidl bag.

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Thats a 10p bag , its the distortion of facts like this that causes uncertainty with the masses.

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Originally Posted by NYCBlue

This is absolute nonsense, the media reports information provided from the National Weather Center. Irma proved just as devastating as forecast. Ask the victims. Where are you getting your news from?

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More 'absolute nonsense' at the links for your perusal.

The Monster Surge That Wasn’t: Why Irma Caused Less Flooding Than Expected - https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/11/u...-flooding.html

Relief rally for insurance stocks as worst Irma fears avoided - https://www.ft.com/content/dea8a4fa-...2-cde3f882dd7b

S&P 500 chalks up record high as fear gives way - https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...-idUSKCN1BM1BH

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Originally Posted by I.8.POLITICAL.CORRECTNESS

that's an actress playing the part of a "victim" don't be taken in by it ladies and gents :thumbup:
question everything

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She's not an actress, she is a BBC reporter and an eyewitness to this attrocity who was right there when the bucket went off.

I hate to go all Lesley Phillips on you the redhead is rather a spiffing bit of top London totty !!!

Belated commiserations for Throbbing Gristle. I knew he was knocking on but it came as a shock to learn he had turned his paws up.

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Originally Posted by Wales-Bales

She's not an actress, she is a BBC reporter and an eyewitness to this attrocity who was right there when the bucket went off.

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Why is there ALWAYS a BBC reporter right next to the incident? :sherlock:

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Originally Posted by Organ Morgan.

Belated commiserations for Throbbing Gristle. I knew he was knocking on but it came as a shock to learn he had turned his paws up.

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He rutted his way through many a garden party of designer dogs

He's left his mark round these parts the old sea beast

God bless him

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Originally Posted by Badly Ironed Shirt

That's a really good idea.

They're doing something similar in the Philippines at the moment with drug addicts. It's quite important to give governments sweeping powers in the name of our security (feck me, isn't it all so dangerous these days?) and they will never abuse these powers right?

I'd be completely happy for the Government to put us all under surveillance for 24 hours a day (oh, we are already?) just to stop us getting our eyebrows singed by these bombs that are exploding at a rate of once every 10 years.

Perhaps I missed your point, and you are only talking about the brown people?

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Really ?
Islamic terrorism, extremism and militancy is rife throughout the whole world.
You, and the rest of the UK knew that this, relatively minor, incident wasn't going to be so called white supremacists, Buddhists, Sikhs or Hindus.
We all knew that it was going to be a Muslim, irrespective of the individual's skin colour.
Are you racist enough to claim that all Muslims have brown skin !
I don't.
Muslim terrorists, extremists and militants are evil bastards.
Those who radicalise and indoctrinate are evil bastards.
A significantly higher number of those who protect and directly support the above, are evil bastards.
An even significantly higher number who cheer and celebrate these type of actions are evil bastards.
These incidents in the UK, Europe and the rest of the world are the tip of iceberg as the vast majority of potential incidents/attacks are prevented by security forces.
There is a significant problem world wide and the common denominator is Islam.
Many Muslims are very nice people.
It is not the nice or decent Muslims that we should be concerned about, but to summarily dismiss a very real worldwide problem on the basis that some Muslims have a different colour skin to you, me or anyone who dares to criticise is ludicrous.
I had the same skin colour as the IRA terrorists.
I hated them with a passion, as any sane person would.
Why should we feel any differently now, because it's Islamic terrorism, extremism and militancy.
I hate the actions, not the skin colour.