Did hooliganism hold CCFC back?

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20-09-17, 10:30
LordKenwyne

Re: Did hooliganism hold CCFC back?

Hundreds of thousands go to wales rugby games in cardiff

33k if that go to watch the football. Not in the centre. Not even a drinking occasion really. No rivalries with the home nations

We've had one away end in the football this entire qualifying campaign :hehe:
20-09-17, 10:40
Former Labour leader

Re: Did hooliganism hold CCFC back?

Yep, i would love to take my little grandson in a couple of years, but mum is already saying noway because of the trouble. Takes a long time for prejudices to go away.
20-09-17, 10:45
Rjk

Re: Did hooliganism hold CCFC back?

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Originally Posted by Organ Morgan.

As you well know, the issue you chose to dispute concerned Welsh eggers. Now you make a poor attempt to procrastinate. Link me any report or info that suggests there's a spike in domestic violence by Welsh football fans following games or competitions.

There were plenty of warnings around surges in domestic violence during euro 2016. This may have been primarily aimed at England fans, but if you think this is an issue that effects Wales rugby fans, England football fans, old firm football fans yet somehow not Wales football fans then you are either extremely naive or deliberately misleading.

The effect during rugby internationals here is more visible due to the much higher numbers of people involved.
20-09-17, 10:54
Organ Morgan.

Re: Did hooliganism hold CCFC back?

No links to support your meandering - why's that? I know, you're making it up as you go along. Face it, some Welsh rugby fans love putting the welly in behind close doors.
20-09-17, 10:58
qccfc

Re: Did hooliganism hold CCFC back?

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Originally Posted by Organ Morgan.

No links to support your meandering - why's that? I know, you're making it up as you go along. Face it, some Welsh rugby fans love putting the welly in behind close doors.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/123670...ng-tournament/

https://www.theatlantic.com/health/a...events/263570/

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/1...n_1971358.html

http://www.newstatesman.com/politics...over-christmas

Plenty of links out there to show that there are spikes at national tournaments (involving England, but surely there is not a huge change in trend with Wales), and over Christmas.
20-09-17, 11:23
NYCBlue

Re: Did hooliganism hold CCFC back?

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Originally Posted by Organ Morgan.

Oh no?

Police highlight rise in domestic abuse at Six Nations time - http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wa...-abuse-1932894

Storm over Welsh rugby wife-beating:An official report claims that wife beating increases on international rugby days - http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wa...eating-2474786

Probably has more to do with drinking than rugby though.
20-09-17, 11:25
Louth

Re: Did hooliganism hold CCFC back?

Hooliganism definitely held CCFC back. `

No matter what another mb would say, hooligans were cowards. The main trouble being at Shrewsbury, Exeter, Hereford, Torquay etc.

A number of these guys consider themselves as being there to protect 'scarfers.' Most were usually middle class, fashion conscious and wanabee tough guys.

It's a fairly well known fact these pricks used to go to Chelsea to live out their fantasies.

I knew several people who wouldn't dream of taking their children to games. It did hold the club back. Totally different times now.

I'm venting now.
20-09-17, 20:05
Phill Stants brother

Re: Did hooliganism hold CCFC back?

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Originally Posted by Louth

Hooliganism definitely held CCFC back. `

No matter what another mb would say, hooligans were cowards. The main trouble being at Shrewsbury, Exeter, Hereford, Torquay etc.

A number of these guys consider themselves as being there to protect 'scarfers.' Most were usually middle class, fashion conscious and wanabee tough guys.

It's a fairly well known fact these pricks used to go to Chelsea to live out their fantasies.

I knew several people who wouldn't dream of taking their children to games. It did hold the club back. Totally different times now.

I'm venting now.

Middle class? What planet are you on? The Docks, Barry and Valleys were as un middle class as you could get.

I've also seen plenty of so called 'scarfers' as you put it getting stuck in on many occasions back in the day! I think you're talking a load of old pony there Louth mouth.
20-09-17, 20:09
J R Hartley

Re: Did hooliganism hold CCFC back?

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Originally Posted by Phill Stants brother

Middle class? What planet are you on? The Docks, Barry and Valleys were as un middle class as you could get.

I've also seen plenty of so called 'scarfers' as you put it getting stuck in on many occasions back in the day! I think you're talking a load of old pony there Louth mouth.

Talk about stereotyping. The guys watched one too many out of touch panorama documentarys.
20-09-17, 20:14
Dr Lecter

Re: Did hooliganism hold CCFC back?

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Originally Posted by Phill Stants brother

Middle class? What planet are you on? The Docks, Barry and Valleys were as un middle class as you could get.

I've also seen plenty of so called 'scarfers' as you put it getting stuck in on many occasions back in the day! I think you're talking a load of old pony there Louth mouth.

I think he's referring to the the aUthoR.
20-09-17, 20:19
J R Hartley

Re: Did hooliganism hold CCFC back?

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Originally Posted by Dr Lecter

I think he's referring to the the aUthoR.

He said "most" and seeing as Cardiff had around 500 - 1000 hooligans I think he's referring to more than just Tannis
20-09-17, 20:22
Dr Lecter

Re: Did hooliganism hold CCFC back?

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Originally Posted by J R Hartley

He said "most" and seeing as Cardiff had around 500 - 1000 hooligans I think he's referring to more than just Tannis

Ah right.

As you were then.
20-09-17, 20:24
jeepster

Re: Did hooliganism hold CCFC back?

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Originally Posted by Phill Stants brother

Middle class? What planet are you on? The Docks, Barry and Valleys were as un middle class as you could get.

I've also seen plenty of so called 'scarfers' as you put it getting stuck in on many occasions back in the day! I think you're talking a load of old pony there Louth mouth.

Add Llanrumney to that as well
20-09-17, 20:28
Louth

Re: Did hooliganism hold CCFC back?

I meant most hooligans.

As for panorama documtaries, I saw enough of it, not the Sam documentary.

Scarfers is a term over the last few years for 'ordinary' fans.

At the end of the day, hooligans ruined the club. They were cowards, nothing more, nothing less.
20-09-17, 20:29
J R Hartley

Re: Did hooliganism hold CCFC back?

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Originally Posted by Louth

I meant most hooligans.

As for panorama documtaries, I saw enough of it, not the Sam documentary.

Scarfers is a term over the last few years for 'ordinary' fans.

At the end of the day, hooligans ruined the club. They were cowards, nothing more, nothing less.

A succession of shit owners ruined the club
20-09-17, 20:34
Phill Stants brother

Re: Did hooliganism hold CCFC back?

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Originally Posted by J R Hartley

A succession of shit owners ruined the club

I'd go along with that. You can't blame hooliganism as it was rife back then & every club up and down the land had an hooligan element, no matter how big the club.
20-09-17, 20:36
J R Hartley

Re: Did hooliganism hold CCFC back?

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Originally Posted by Phill Stants brother

I'd go along with that. You can't blame hooliganism as it was rife back then & every club up and down the land had a hooligan element no matter how big the club.

Didn't hold Man U back and the Red Army were arguably the biggest mob in the country
20-09-17, 20:38
jeepster

Re: Did hooliganism hold CCFC back?

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Originally Posted by J R Hartley

Didn't hold Man U back and the Red Army were arguably the biggest mob in the country

true:thumbup:

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