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Re: VALLEY COPS, BBC 1 Wales 9pm (now) . Should be a laugh.
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Originally Posted by
SLUDGE FACTORY
They have done their best , not perfect by a long way but the decline of the community spirit in the valleys began with Thatcher , simple as
The "decline of community spirit in the valleys" began with the closing of the pits, which started well before Mrs thatcher came to power.
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Re: VALLEY COPS, BBC 1 Wales 9pm (now) . Should be a laugh.
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Originally Posted by
Nick
The "decline of community spirit in the valleys" began with the closing of the pits, which started well before Mrs thatcher came to power.
Not in the opinion of the valleys people I know
I will take their word for it
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Re: VALLEY COPS, BBC 1 Wales 9pm (now) . Should be a laugh.
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Originally Posted by
Nick
The "decline of community spirit in the valleys" began with the closing of the pits, which started well before Mrs thatcher came to power.
Hmmm...
Taff Merthyr, Treharris Deep Navigation and Merthyr Vale Colliery. All Merthyr pits closed by that rancid cow Thatcher.
On the plus side. She's as dead as the pits.
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Re: VALLEY COPS, BBC 1 Wales 9pm (now) . Should be a laugh.
Merthyr Holiday companies offering breaks to Syria by all accounts, just saying like
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Re: VALLEY COPS, BBC 1 Wales 9pm (now) . Should be a laugh.
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Originally Posted by
Minion
Merthyr Holiday companies offering breaks to Syria by all accounts, just saying like
Cringing for you pal.
Comedy isn't your forte.
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Re: VALLEY COPS, BBC 1 Wales 9pm (now) . Should be a laugh.
The editing of this programme once again shows Merthyr and particualy the Gurnos once again in a bad light. There are far worse places to live in South Wales than the Gurnos Estate.
The worst to come out of it are the police though - what a joke. Hes robbed a Post Office and the local copper doesnt want him sent down.
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Re: VALLEY COPS, BBC 1 Wales 9pm (now) . Should be a laugh.
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Originally Posted by
Jordi Culé
Cringing for you pal.
Comedy isn't your forte.
Wait till you read his Sludge impersonation. Cringing with goosebumps.
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Re: VALLEY COPS, BBC 1 Wales 9pm (now) . Should be a laugh.
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Originally Posted by
Hilts
The editing of this programme once again shows Merthyr and particualy the Gurnos once again in a bad light. There are far worse places to live in South Wales than the Gurnos Estate.
The worst to come out of it are the police though - what a joke. Hes robbed a Post Office and the local copper doesnt want him sent down.
There are worst places to live than the Gurnos in Merthyr itself!!!
I’d rather live in the Gurnos than Swansea Road or Merthyr Vale.
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Re: VALLEY COPS, BBC 1 Wales 9pm (now) . Should be a laugh.
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Originally Posted by
SLUDGE FACTORY
Not in the opinion of the valleys people I know
I will take their word for it
Take my word for it too. Thatcher split communities and families in 1984 with her approach to the miner's strike. She decimated them further by overseeing the closure of the pits. It's debatable if that was an act of spite or not, I have my own suspicions. She then made things even worse by massaging the unemployment figures and putting people on the sick. These people are now ostracized by Joe Public and Theresa May. They are then thrown into a goldfish bowl for people to watch in glorious UHD - this solves nothing and only makes stereotyping easier. I was a schoolkid in the 80s, one text book three kids, many of us having free school dinners (our only meal), and many of us growing up in a household where both parents weren't working for long spells. My old man was out of work for two years in the mid 80s, and some of my earliest memories were waiting outside the job centre with him before it opened, and his sheer optimism and balls of steel as he took knock back after knock back. The Tories of today would portray our household for those two years as a disgusting statistic, and would fuel the Daily Mail headline writers with stories of scroungers and the welfare state. Thatcher may well have improved the country, and made Britain "great" again, but we didn't feel it and nor did many of my school mates. I remember scrounging crisps off mates, and mates scrounging crisps off me.
The thing is, there is still a strong sense of community in the valleys, moreso than Cardiff. Of course, there are bad people in the Valleys. Tell me somewhere where there are not bad people? The Valleys seem to be the 21st Century joke that Liverpool of the 1980s was. Truth is, the area has been crying out for investment since the 70s, and it has been let down by Tories and Blairites alike.
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Re: VALLEY COPS, BBC 1 Wales 9pm (now) . Should be a laugh.
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Originally Posted by
Jordi Culé
Hmmm...
Taff Merthyr, Treharris Deep Navigation and Merthyr Vale Colliery. All Merthyr pits closed by that rancid cow Thatcher.
On the plus side. She's as dead as the pits.
Did she suffer? The evilest and most manipulative leader the UK has seen, the Tories have evolved into an entity that seeks power with low regard for public service. Watching Theresa May croak her way and blunder her way through anything and everything with her crooked smile (done by Nick Park) is pure comedy. Corbyn won me over last year, and Socialism cannot come quickly enough. Let's start making some of these gits pay their way.
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Re: VALLEY COPS, BBC 1 Wales 9pm (now) . Should be a laugh.
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Originally Posted by
J R Hartley
Wait till you read his Sludge impersonation. Cringing with goosebumps.
More worrying is why anyone would wish to try and emulate an individual who clearly is a sex pest?
Mind boggling.
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Re: VALLEY COPS, BBC 1 Wales 9pm (now) . Should be a laugh.
The Valleys need investment and policy changes WAY beyond the imaginations of most politicians.
Let's be honest, it would mostly still be farmland if it wasn't for coal and geography is against it.
The infrastructure improvements have merely scratched the surface.
No train service to many areas, one that stands out is Rhondda Fach , but there are loads with disused railways which could be reestablished.., and many places accessible only by narrow roads where only 1 car can pass.
These aren't Tony villages, these are really linear towns with thousands of inhabitants.
What about moving a few institutions out of Cardiff ?
Could you imagine the boost to RCT if the BBC instead of moving to Cardiff Bay went there, or some of the Welsh Govt organisations.
Or the tax office, with a high % of staff from the Valleys set to move to the City centre. If this went to say Treforest or Llantrisant ( which would need transport improvements) what a boost that would be.
The good thing about the Valleys is property is affordable, so kids would have an opportunity, although much of it could do with major refurbishment or even knocking down and rebuilding.
Major investment in securing footloose industries/ services would also help. There's a lot of growing sectors which can be situated anywhere.
A gaming academy with heavily subsidised and well laid out offices with top class IT and internet would provide a massive boost and would give local kids opportunities in something which would fire up a lot.
Handing out the odd grant and well meaning scheme is a treatment not a cure.
As it stands many people will either rot away or move away.
And for those who think '**** it, not our problem' then remember Cardiff will get more and more crowded
There was an interesting article on the TV a few years back from an academic who suggested just allowing parts of the Valleys to depopulate and knocking down thousands of houses.
If nothing major is done that's where we will end up in the long term anyway.
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Re: VALLEY COPS, BBC 1 Wales 9pm (now) . Should be a laugh.
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Originally Posted by
Badly Ironed Shirt
Take my word for it too. Thatcher split communities and families in 1984 with her approach to the miner's strike. She decimated them further by overseeing the closure of the pits. It's debatable if that was an act of spite or not, I have my own suspicions. She then made things even worse by massaging the unemployment figures and putting people on the sick. These people are now ostracized by Joe Public and Theresa May. They are then thrown into a goldfish bowl for people to watch in glorious UHD - this solves nothing and only makes stereotyping easier. I was a schoolkid in the 80s, one text book three kids, many of us having free school dinners (our only meal), and many of us growing up in a household where both parents weren't working for long spells. My old man was out of work for two years in the mid 80s, and some of my earliest memories were waiting outside the job centre with him before it opened, and his sheer optimism and balls of steel as he took knock back after knock back. The Tories of today would portray our household for those two years as a disgusting statistic, and would fuel the Daily Mail headline writers with stories of scroungers and the welfare state. Thatcher may well have improved the country, and made Britain "great" again, but we didn't feel it and nor did many of my school mates. I remember scrounging crisps off mates, and mates scrounging crisps off me.
The thing is, there is still a strong sense of community in the valleys, moreso than Cardiff. Of course, there are bad people in the Valleys. Tell me somewhere where there are not bad people? The Valleys seem to be the 21st Century joke that Liverpool of the 1980s was. Truth is, the area has been crying out for investment since the 70s, and it has been let down by Tories and Blairites alike.
I am a socialist , Blair and his mob were Tories
The valley based city fans are the lifeblood of Cardiff city , travelling away in the dark days our coach from Bridgend ......and many of these came from the Bridgend valleys .....would meet another coach from pontyclun ran by the Daniels and one from ninian park for Cardiff based city fans
As for Thatcher , evil woman and the Tories of today are worse
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Re: VALLEY COPS, BBC 1 Wales 9pm (now) . Should be a laugh.
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Originally Posted by
Jordi Culé
Cringing for you pal.
Comedy isn't your forte.
Cringing back at you pal for replying
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Re: VALLEY COPS, BBC 1 Wales 9pm (now) . Should be a laugh.
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Originally Posted by
Minion
Cringing back at you pal for replying
Feel free if it makes you feel better:biggrin:
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Re: VALLEY COPS, BBC 1 Wales 9pm (now) . Should be a laugh.
Be nice to each other , this is a chance to get stuck into the Tory scum and praise the valleys at the same time
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Re: VALLEY COPS, BBC 1 Wales 9pm (now) . Should be a laugh.
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Originally Posted by
Badly Ironed Shirt
Did she suffer? The evilest and most manipulative leader the UK has seen, the Tories have evolved into an entity that seeks power with low regard for public service. Watching Theresa May croak her way and blunder her way through anything and everything with her crooked smile (done by Nick Park) is pure comedy. Corbyn won me over last year, and Socialism cannot come quickly enough. Let's start making some of these gits pay their way.
Socialism , one day all will see the light , we can't go on living this rat race to the bottom
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Re: VALLEY COPS, BBC 1 Wales 9pm (now) . Should be a laugh.
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Originally Posted by
SLUDGE FACTORY
Socialism , one day all will see the light , we can't go on living this rat race to the bottom
Today's society is a direct result of Thatcherism. Some intervention from government is the only way to address the rampant exploitation which Thatcherism initially allowed but also consecutive governments after the slag had been ousted also implemented.
Today's Tories saw the political climate as an endorsement to carry out Thatcherism to its natural conclusion.
Thank fuuck for Corbyn for bringing back some traditional values to the Labour Party and challenging the excesses of free market capitalism.
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Re: VALLEY COPS, BBC 1 Wales 9pm (now) . Should be a laugh.
It's on National BBC next week !
Just bloody wonderful, NOT.
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Re: VALLEY COPS, BBC 1 Wales 9pm (now) . Should be a laugh.
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Originally Posted by
BLUETIT
It's on National BBC next week !
Just bloody wonderful, NOT.
Excellent - was wanting to watch this after the great reviews in this thread.
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Re: VALLEY COPS, BBC 1 Wales 9pm (now) . Should be a laugh.
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Originally Posted by
BLUETIT
It's on National BBC next week !
Just bloody wonderful, NOT.
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Originally Posted by
Maccy Blue
Excellent - was wanting to watch this after the great reviews in this thread.
Tuesday on BBC 1 @ 10.45pm
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Re: VALLEY COPS, BBC 1 Wales 9pm (now) . Should be a laugh.
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Originally Posted by
Jordi Culé
Today's society is a direct result of Thatcherism. Some intervention from government is the only way to address the rampant exploitation which Thatcherism initially allowed but also consecutive governments after the slag had been ousted also implemented.
Today's Tories saw the political climate as an endorsement to carry out Thatcherism to its natural conclusion.
Thank fuuck for Corbyn for bringing back some traditional values to the Labour Party and challenging the excesses of free market capitalism.
Nailed on
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Re: VALLEY COPS, BBC 1 Wales 9pm (now) . Should be a laugh.
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Originally Posted by
Badly Ironed Shirt
Take my word for it too. Thatcher split communities and families in 1984 with her approach to the miner's strike. She decimated them further by overseeing the closure of the pits. It's debatable if that was an act of spite or not, I have my own suspicions. She then made things even worse by massaging the unemployment figures and putting people on the sick. These people are now ostracized by Joe Public and Theresa May. They are then thrown into a goldfish bowl for people to watch in glorious UHD - this solves nothing and only makes stereotyping easier. I was a schoolkid in the 80s, one text book three kids, many of us having free school dinners (our only meal), and many of us growing up in a household where both parents weren't working for long spells. My old man was out of work for two years in the mid 80s, and some of my earliest memories were waiting outside the job centre with him before it opened, and his sheer optimism and balls of steel as he took knock back after knock back. The Tories of today would portray our household for those two years as a disgusting statistic, and would fuel the Daily Mail headline writers with stories of scroungers and the welfare state. Thatcher may well have improved the country, and made Britain "great" again, but we didn't feel it and nor did many of my school mates. I remember scrounging crisps off mates, and mates scrounging crisps off me.
The thing is, there is still a strong sense of community in the valleys, moreso than Cardiff. Of course, there are bad people in the Valleys. Tell me somewhere where there are not bad people? The Valleys seem to be the 21st Century joke that Liverpool of the 1980s was. Truth is, the area has been crying out for investment since the 70s, and it has been let down by Tories and Blairites alike.
Not to mention the Welsh Government of the pat 18 years.
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Re: VALLEY COPS, BBC 1 Wales 9pm (now) . Should be a laugh.
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Originally Posted by
Nick
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Not to mention the Welsh Government of the pat 18 years.
What valley are you from Nick?
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Re: VALLEY COPS, BBC 1 Wales 9pm (now) . Should be a laugh.
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Originally Posted by
Badly Ironed Shirt
Did she suffer?.
I hope so.
I'd have cryogenically frozen her body to be dragged around the UK on bank holidays.
Rancid cow.
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Re: VALLEY COPS, BBC 1 Wales 9pm (now) . Should be a laugh.
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Originally Posted by
Nick
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Not to mention the Welsh Government of the pat 18 years.
Valleys boy are you ?
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Re: VALLEY COPS, BBC 1 Wales 9pm (now) . Should be a laugh.
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Originally Posted by
Jordi Culé
I hope so.
I'd have cryogenically frozen her body to be dragged around the UK on bank holidays.
Rancid cow.
I can't believe there are people who liked that woman , she was the start of the real decline into the selfish me me society we have now and may and her lot are even more extreme
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Re: VALLEY COPS, BBC 1 Wales 9pm (now) . Should be a laugh.
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Originally Posted by
Nick
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Not to mention the Welsh Government of the pat 18 years.
Nah, you can't mention them. Tories haven't been in power there.
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Re: VALLEY COPS, BBC 1 Wales 9pm (now) . Should be a laugh.
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Originally Posted by
Lawnmower
The Valleys need investment and policy changes WAY beyond the imaginations of most politicians.
Let's be honest, it would mostly still be farmland if it wasn't for coal and geography is against it.
The infrastructure improvements have merely scratched the surface.
No train service to many areas, one that stands out is Rhondda Fach , but there are loads with disused railways which could be reestablished.., and many places accessible only by narrow roads where only 1 car can pass.
These aren't Tony villages, these are really linear towns with thousands of inhabitants.
What about moving a few institutions out of Cardiff ?
Could you imagine the boost to RCT if the BBC instead of moving to Cardiff Bay went there, or some of the Welsh Govt organisations.
Or the tax office, with a high % of staff from the Valleys set to move to the City centre. If this went to say Treforest or Llantrisant ( which would need transport improvements) what a boost that would be.
The good thing about the Valleys is property is affordable, so kids would have an opportunity, although much of it could do with major refurbishment or even knocking down and rebuilding.
Major investment in securing footloose industries/ services would also help. There's a lot of growing sectors which can be situated anywhere.
A gaming academy with heavily subsidised and well laid out offices with top class IT and internet would provide a massive boost and would give local kids opportunities in something which would fire up a lot.
Handing out the odd grant and well meaning scheme is a treatment not a cure.
As it stands many people will either rot away or move away.
And for those who think '**** it, not our problem' then remember Cardiff will get more and more crowded
There was an interesting article on the TV a few years back from an academic who suggested just allowing parts of the Valleys to depopulate and knocking down thousands of houses.
If nothing major is done that's where we will end up in the long term anyway.
The tax office should have went to the valleys, it was a no brainer and just another indication that green is just another stealth tax.
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Re: VALLEY COPS, BBC 1 Wales 9pm (now) . Should be a laugh.
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Originally Posted by
Nelsonca61
The tax office should have went to the valleys, it was a no brainer and just another indication that green is just another stealth tax.
It's the reason Swansea got the DVLA and llantrisant got the royal mint and Cardiff companies house
A new tax office in say pontypridd, the valleys hub town would have been brilliant
The town's of aberdare , merthyr , ebbs vale and the Bridgend valleys need big employers , Sony has been so important to Bridgend
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Re: VALLEY COPS, BBC 1 Wales 9pm (now) . Should be a laugh.
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Originally Posted by
BLUETIT
Tuesday on BBC 1 @ 10.45pm
It's on iplayer if you can't wait till Tuesday.
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Re: VALLEY COPS, BBC 1 Wales 9pm (now) . Should be a laugh.
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Re: VALLEY COPS, BBC 1 Wales 9pm (now) . Should be a laugh.
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Originally Posted by
Organ Morgan.
lol Custody these days eh? They're politer and more hospitable than the majority of f*cking restaurants!!
Years ago they'd beat you up and leave you to it for 2 days!!
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Re: VALLEY COPS, BBC 1 Wales 9pm (now) . Should be a laugh.
Episode 2 is on BBC 1 Wales tonight at 9pm. That channel is available on Sky channel number 952 for those living elsewhere in the UK.
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Re: VALLEY COPS, BBC 1 Wales 9pm (now) . Should be a laugh.
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Originally Posted by
Organ Morgan.
Episode 2 is on BBC 1 Wales tonight at 9pm. That channel is available on Sky channel number 952 for those living elsewhere in the UK.
What on earth would we do without you.
No doubt you’ll be mocking these valley boys shortly. As is your want.
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Re: VALLEY COPS, BBC 1 Wales 9pm (now) . Should be a laugh.
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Originally Posted by
Nick
What on earth would we do without you.
No doubt you’ll be mocking these valley boys shortly. As is your want.
I've never really had much bother following the City away being a softy n all that i tend to keep out of that rubbish, but what i would say, if i was going to become unstuck in a less than ideal situation with a group of lads, IMO you'd have a better chance with a group of Valley lads than Cardiff lads, the Valley boys do seem to stick together better.
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Re: VALLEY COPS, BBC 1 Wales 9pm (now) . Should be a laugh.
That's the third pop at me you've taken today. I have to wonder whether it's linked to my post about Cwmbran yesterday evening. Though why you would take umbrage over that is anyone's guess.
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Re: VALLEY COPS, BBC 1 Wales 9pm (now) . Should be a laugh.
Illegal drugs the common thread of all the cases featured in tonight's show. Last week ditto except for the Post Office robbers.
Tebbit said years ago to get on your bikes to find jobs. Social mobility is much more difficult today with house prices and rents rocketing.
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Re: VALLEY COPS, BBC 1 Wales 9pm (now) . Should be a laugh.
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Originally Posted by
Organ Morgan.
Illegal drugs the common thread of all the cases featured in tonight's show. Last week ditto except for the Post Office robbers.
Tebbit said years ago to get on your bikes to find jobs. Social mobility is much more difficult today with house prices and rents rocketing.
Maybe time for the government to take control of supply by legalising the use and supplying only as part of a treatment to get people off it.
The current system clearly doesn't work
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Re: VALLEY COPS, BBC 1 Wales 9pm (now) . Should be a laugh.
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Originally Posted by
Lawnmower
Maybe time for the government to take control of supply by legalising the use and supplying only as part of a treatment to get people off it.
The current system clearly doesn't work
Totally. Arresting people and putting them through the court system for possession of class A is a total waste of time and the fiancé involved is ridiculous.
I.e. Offender gets arrested for heroin, pleads guilty, has to pay court costs. More likely then not they are on Emplyment support allowance and have the deductions from benefits.
They can't survive on whats deducted and therefore they go out and offend again thus bringing them back before the Courts.
