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Re: Anyonelse getting fed up of Warnock
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Originally Posted by
Tandy
Any manager of CCFC will get my full support. NW is doing his best for the club and that is all you can ask for.
Trouble with our so called fans is they think they are more qualified than the manager. :facepalm:
Totally agree
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Re: Anyonelse getting fed up of Warnock
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Originally Posted by
Nick
Do you also post As Tandy and Chepstow?
OGS had no idea what he was doing.A nice guy but he just threw money at it without getting any return. Changed the team around at a drop of a hat,was clueless and failed to repay the faith and money that Tan gave him.
I dont see too many clubs looking to employ him. Pity really because you would have expected a lot more from a star pupil of Alex Ferguson
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Re: Anyonelse getting fed up of Warnock
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Re: Anyonelse getting fed up of Warnock
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Originally Posted by
valley boy
OGS had no idea what he was doing.A nice guy but he just threw money at it without getting any return. Changed the team around at a drop of a hat,was clueless and failed to repay the faith and money that Tan gave him.
I dont see too many clubs looking to employ him. Pity really because you would have expected a lot more from a star pupil of Alex Ferguson
OGS was trying to do what he did with Molde - large squad, mass rotation, keep squad fresh for end of season.
Only problem was his constant changing ruined any semblance of coherence or momentum; equally, the squad was quantity over quality for the most part.
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Re: Anyonelse getting fed up of Warnock
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Originally Posted by
surge
Don't think there is anything wrong with critiquing his tactics but don't think it's right to get too critical at this point either. Imagine a situation where Tomlin comes on with only 15 mins to go in the next game and there is a big groan, it will start to knock the team's confidence. And why? Because we are third in the league?!? As long as we're keeping in that zone where we know things could be better and talking about what we might change but staying positive and supportive then carry on.
We can’t ignore the obvious and the poor performances by just keeping pointing to were 3rd in the table, mainly because of the unprecedented amount of points gained at the start of the season. Since then we’ve taken less than 1.5 points per game so that statement “we are still 1st, 2nd and now 3rd that will soon become were 4th in the table, 5th, 6th, 7th, 8th and then it will be “well at the start of the season we would have taken challenging for the play offs, all whilst dropping like a stone.
We were in teams faces at the start of the season, pressing them high, what’s happened?
Weve reverted to Malky style play for a 0-0 and hope to nick a goal instead of taking the initiative. Away to Boro you can understand and it worked a treat, albeit with a penalty, but not home to Millwall.
Ipswich home is another game we should be targeting 3 points and I hope we go in with a more positive attitude than weve shown in recent home games.
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Re: Anyonelse getting fed up of Warnock
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Originally Posted by
ninianclark
I think you are forgetting where we were and where we are now.
Get yourself home and take a long hard look at yerself man
I’m pretty sure that will be deleted as well. Not sure disagreeing with Hartley is allowed anymore.
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Re: Anyonelse getting fed up of Warnock
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Originally Posted by
ninianclark
I think you are forgetting where we were and where we are now.
Get yourself home and take a long hard look at yerself man
Sorry but we can’t keep pointing back to the beginning of last season.
This is Warnocks squad and has his stamp on it now. If there are poor performances masked by him blaming the ref then I’m going to say so.
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Re: Anyonelse getting fed up of Warnock
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Re: Anyonelse getting fed up of Warnock
Don't get the attitude JR is getting off some. Strange.
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Re: Anyonelse getting fed up of Warnock
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Originally Posted by
Nick
I’m pretty sure that will be deleted as well. Not sure disagreeing with Hartley is allowed anymore.
It is, but that’s all you do on here. You chase JR around disagreeing with everything he says. If he said it was Monday you’d argue it was Tuesday.
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Re: Anyonelse getting fed up of Warnock
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Originally Posted by
Phill Stants brother
It is, but that’s all you do on here. You chase JR around disagreeing with everything he says. If he said it was Monday you’d argue it was Tuesday.
I express an opinion, if it’s different to that of your chum so be it.
Accept that different people have different opinions.
It’s Monday by the way.
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Re: Anyonelse getting fed up of Warnock
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Originally Posted by
Phill Stants brother
It is, but that’s all you do on here. You chase JR around disagreeing with everything he says. If he said it was Monday you’d argue it was Tuesday.
JR and yourself were banned from **** for being knobs and WUMS. You have contributed nothing to this thread apart from attacking Nick.
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Re: Anyonelse getting fed up of Warnock
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Originally Posted by
dembethewarrior
Don't get the attitude JR is getting off some. Strange.
There’s a poster on this thread disagreeing with me, even though he agreed with what I am more or less saying in this thread, when I said it on another thread earlier today. :hehe:
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Re: Anyonelse getting fed up of Warnock
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Originally Posted by
J R Hartley
There’s a poster on this thread disagreeing with me, even though he agreed with what I am more or less saying in this thread, on another thread earlier today. :hehe:
Mental.
Made a good point about debating the post not the poster.
Tandy...**** was full of mongs and multi accounts that much I know just from looking in every so often. Posts would get edited etc the whole place was a shambles, usually with 2 people talking in a post with 5 accounts each.
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Re: Anyonelse getting fed up of Warnock
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Originally Posted by
Tandy
JR and yourself were banned from **** for being knobs and WUMS. You have contributed nothing to this thread apart from attacking Nick.
Says the biggest wind up/knob on here. Read page one with regards to contributions. You’ve just jumped to page two to jump on the bandwagon.
I’ve told you before as well, never had an account on ****.
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Re: Anyonelse getting fed up of Warnock
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Originally Posted by
Nick
We are third in the division, ffs.
12 months ago we were relegation certainties. He has absolutely transformed the club.
Incredible.
What a stupid comment. If everybody compared their recent performance against the worst spell the team has experienced over the last decade then there wouldn't be a point in following the team as every match would be an amazing improvement.
The truth is we played great at the start of this season. Full of attacking options and flair. We passed the ball out wide constantly and always looked to break with speed. However for whatever reason NW has decided to completely flip our style of play on its head and stuck with it. What's with this hoofball and pray their defence fumbles it nonsense?
I agree with Hartley on this one. NW has to start taking it on the chin and own up to the fact he is trying something new and its not working out. Atleast then we can have faith that he recognises we are at very minimum are having serious teething issues
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Re: Anyonelse getting fed up of Warnock
I'd like to thank Warnock for regenerating a broken team and club ,even if we fall away from where we are its such a relief to go down knowing you have a chance of beating anyone in this league ,oops we have beaten a lot mostly In the top 6 which is a good sign ,those of us who go can see that progress, those who are simply keyboard critics need to pop along and enjoy the experience, not perfect but a lot better than we have seen over the previous years.
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Re: Anyonelse getting fed up of Warnock
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Originally Posted by
Nick
I’m pretty sure that will be deleted as well. Not sure disagreeing with Hartley is allowed anymore.
the posts deleted were personal jibes and pettiness. Not reasoned argument.
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Re: Anyonelse getting fed up of Warnock
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Originally Posted by
J R Hartley
No I don’t like being asked if I’m on a wind up, or looking for click bait, just for posing an alternative opinion.
Debate the point not the poster.
That’s exactly what I’m doing :shrug:
I haven’t said you’re on a wind up, Saturday was poor but I’m confident we’ll do better tomorrow. We’re going to have bad days at the office.
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Re: Anyonelse getting fed up of Warnock
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Originally Posted by
TH63
That’s exactly what I’m doing :shrug:
I haven’t said you’re on a wind up, Saturday was poor but I’m confident we’ll do better tomorrow. We’re going to have bad days at the office.
I was replying to a poster saying I was on a wind up when you said I didn’t like the answers.
My concern is too many bad days at the office recently with Warnock too intent on blaming the ref than recognising something needs to change.
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Re: Anyonelse getting fed up of Warnock
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Originally Posted by
life on mars
I'd like to thank Warnock for regenerating a broken team and club ,even if we fall away from where we are its such a relief to go down knowing you have a chance of beating anyone in this league ,oops we have beaten a lot mostly In the top 6 which is a good sign ,those of us who go can see that progress, those who are simply keyboard critics need to pop along and enjoy the experience, not perfect but a lot better than we have seen over the previous years.
I’ve been to every Saturday home game this season, including last Saturday so not just a keyboard critic.
Just because we beat Villa in such swash buckling fashion doesn’t mean we can’t critique the poor performances.
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Re: Anyonelse getting fed up of Warnock
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Originally Posted by
J R Hartley
I was replying to a poster saying I was on a wind up when you said I didn’t like the answers.
My concern is too many bad days at the office recently with Warnock too intent on blaming the ref than recognising something needs to change.
I don’t think you’re on a wind up, I’m just not fed up with Warnock.
Was the ref poor on Saturday? Yes. Did he cost us the win? No.
Like I said, question asked and answered. People have different opinions.
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Re: Anyonelse getting fed up of Warnock
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Originally Posted by
TH63
I don’t think you’re on a wind up, I’m just not fed up with Warnock.
Was the ref poor on Saturday? Yes. Did he cost us the win? No.
Like I said, question asked and answered. People have different opinions.
The question wasn’t fed up with Warnock it was fed up with him blaming referees.
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Re: Anyonelse getting fed up of Warnock
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Originally Posted by
TH63
I don’t think you’re on a wind up, I’m just not fed up with Warnock.
Was the ref poor on Saturday? Yes. Did he cost us the win? No.
Like I said, question asked and answered. People have different opinions.
Are opinions allowed anymore?
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Re: Anyonelse getting fed up of Warnock
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Originally Posted by
J R Hartley
The question wasn’t fed up with Warnock it was fed up with him blaming referees.
What is the title of this thread??!
Am I allowed to question this?
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Re: Anyonelse getting fed up of Warnock
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Originally Posted by
J R Hartley
I’ve been to every Saturday home game this season, including last Saturday so not just a keyboard critic.
Just because we beat Villa in such swash buckling fashion doesn’t mean we can’t critique the poor performances.
According to the points and our position in the league, one might assume we beaten more than Villa, and good results against good teams.
I'd like to congratulate you on livening the message board this evening, with this thread .
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Re: Anyonelse getting fed up of Warnock
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Originally Posted by
J R Hartley
The question wasn’t fed up with Warnock it was fed up with him blaming referees.
My answer’s still no I’m afraid.
Warnock did criticise the ref, but I don’t recall him saying it was the ref’s fault we didn’t win.
As crap as he was, I don’t think the ref hurt us on Saturday.
What hurt us was a couple of key injuries, a strange line up, iffy tactics and a team who’s sole mission seemed to be to stop us playing.
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Re: Anyonelse getting fed up of Warnock
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Originally Posted by
TH63
My answer’s still no I’m afraid.
As crap as he was, I don’t think the ref hurt us on Saturday.
What hurt us was a couple of key injuries, a strange line up, iffy tactics and a team who’s sole mission seemed to be to stop us playing.
Then why does he blame the ref?
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Re: Anyonelse getting fed up of Warnock
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Originally Posted by
life on mars
According to the points and our position in the league, one might assume we beaten more than Villa, and good results against good teams.
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Maybe you should remind yourself of that the next time you are criticising. As a quick check of your posts since Saturday you have been doing. :thumbup:
Otherwise you may look a little bit of a hypocrite, and maybe on a wind up yourself :thumbup:
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Re: Anyonelse getting fed up of Warnock
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Originally Posted by
J R Hartley
Then why does he blame the ref?
Did he?
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Re: Anyonelse getting fed up of Warnock
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Originally Posted by
TH63
Did he?
Yes, as he did against Birmingham, as he did against Burton in the cup, as he did against Newcastle last home game last season, as he usually does when he loses or the team and / or himself under perform.
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Re: Anyonelse getting fed up of Warnock
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Originally Posted by
J R Hartley
Yes
What did he say? I’m going by this article so maybe I’m missing something.
http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/f...ently-13825923
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Re: Anyonelse getting fed up of Warnock
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Originally Posted by
TH63
Clearly
Spends most of the interview moaning about the ref and a tiny little summary at the end of his own teams failings.
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Re: Anyonelse getting fed up of Warnock
We're 3rd. NW can complain about anyone he likes, as much as he likes.
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Re: Anyonelse getting fed up of Warnock
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Originally Posted by
J R Hartley
Clearly
Spends most of the interview moaning about the ref and a tiny little summary at the end of his own teams failings.
Both managers and about 18,000 fans were critical of the ref. You said yourself that the ref was poor.
That’s not the same as saying the ref cost us 2 points.
Can you provide any quotes where warnock has blamed the ref for us not winning?
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Re: Anyonelse getting fed up of Warnock
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Originally Posted by
TH63
Both managers and about 18,000 fans were critical of the ref. That’s not the same as saying the ref cost us 2 points.
Can you provide any quotes where warnock has blamed the ref for us not winning?
Both managers critical of the ref with one eye on their own team, and not mentioning the ones he got wrong for the opposition. Not biased or anything. :hehe:
I dont need to provide any quotes there’s enough evidence in your link, to back up the point I am making. You can still blame the referee, which he is clearly doing without him actually saying “the ref cost us 2 points”
There are similair links available on several of our games this season and last season. It’s a common theme when results doesn’t go as planned with Warnock. Before and during his time with Cardiff.
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Re: Anyonelse getting fed up of Warnock
It's a common theme with all managers...
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Re: Anyonelse getting fed up of Warnock
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Originally Posted by
ccfc_is_my_life
It's a common theme with all managers...
Some more than others.
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Re: Anyonelse getting fed up of Warnock
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Re: Anyonelse getting fed up of Warnock
Criticism of a referee and bluntly blaming the referee are two different things. Warnock hasn't once said "we didn't win because Martin was poor" etc.