Driverless Cars....Why!!!

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Originally Posted by Jimmy the Jock

They are reporting 350 miles on full charge in "ideal driving" conditions.

That means driving very slowly without harsh acceleration or braking.

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No it doesn't mean that at all. Range will be affected by night time driving, driving in the cold or heat and things like that. In the same way, a diesel or petrol engine becomes less efficient as we turn on the lights in the night, or drive in the cold or heat. The effects may be greater for an electric car, granted, but it's less of a concern if the range is above 250 miles. Especially when you consider that an average car journey in the UK is about 7 miles.

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Originally Posted by joecity

Not to make it political but why arent the companies who make them sinking all the money in. Why are the government spending any money on this. Just saying move the thread if u want.

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Tax intake worries , I as you woulc need to fund development and purchase of these cars ,compensation to remove old vehicles from the road.

As some have pointed out it wasn't long ago when diesel was seen as the future and was made tax efficient to promote purchasing these vehicles .

Politics and decisions ain't easy , and its easy for us to be clever after the fact .

And to think, we all laughed at sir clive :hehe:

for any of the younger readers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0EQetm_qWDg

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Originally Posted by blue matt

And to think, we all laughed at sir clive :hehe:

for any of the younger readers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0EQetm_qWDg

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To be fair his thrust was spot on

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Originally Posted by Philbccfc

presumably you won`t be relying on a dirty diesel to get your petrol to the garage then.

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Is this the, it's 2017, I'm offended post :hehe:

thinking about stretching it to 2018 as well.

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Originally Posted by Steve R

Shoudn't have gotten rid of the Focus (imo) :hehe:

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:thumbup: I got the Fiesta after the focus, all the gizmos titanium X, only had it 10 months just couldn't connect with it, I very nearly bought a new Focus the other week whilst taking the fiesta in for a service, was ready to sign but pulled out with the pen in my hand, on the way to work the very next day stopped off at a garage and bought another car without even test driving it, although I have driven the same type of car previously.

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Originally Posted by joecity

I suppose it will happen. Used to be a guy with a red flag walking in front of a motor. Tessla new truck can do 5000 miles but the battery pack costs more than 5 diesel trucks don't it? Riderless bikes will be next.

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I've got a riderless bike.

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Originally Posted by BlueWales

Who the ferk are Tesla ?

Who would spend shed loads of money on new untested technology ?

Untested in the real world I mean not on closed roads and labs.

I won't be buying one in the remnants of my lifetime that's for sure.

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I think you may be surprised

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Originally Posted by Badly Ironed Shirt

If you don't know who Tesla are, then I am completely unsurprised that your view on electric cars is so blinkered.

The technology has been tested - earlier you were on about the range, and this is being addressed. How old are you, by the way? If you are older than 55, then I think it is possible that you will go through life without owning an electric car. If you are younger, then I think you will have little choice in the matter.

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Owning might not be the model of the future, pay per journey is more likely

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Originally Posted by joecity

I like to think I'm not a luddite. But who really benefits. The extra recreational time served up to pro drivers can be filled with job applications. Plus I like driving most of the time. Getting out of Asdas can be a pain which is why I park by The Cornwall. They should just fast forward to star trek or stop altogether. What's going to be the difficult third album as it were after the driverless car?

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fewer road deaths, traffic a thing of the past, commuting time becomes leisure time. longer commutes more palatable bringing prosperity further from big cities, less air pollution, etc etc

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Originally Posted by Rjk

Owning might not be the model of the future, pay per journey is more likely

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If we are talking about driverless cars, then I agree. The conversation seems to have deviated onto electric cars a little.

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Originally Posted by The Bloop

Cos we're already gridlocked and need even more vehicles on our roads

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why would there be even more?
if all the cars on the roads were driverless they could handle a lot more cars and drive a lot closer than human drivers, and there cold actually be less cars, as most industry experts think that people won't actually own a car in the future, but they will pay per journey from a fleet of cars, so they would pick you up, drop you off then bugger off to the next pick up.
Our clogged up streets would be empty of parked cars again, so kids will be able to play cricket against the lamp posts like I can remember, but which is completely impractical nowadays.

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Originally Posted by Rjk

why would there be even more?
if all the cars on the roads were driverless they could handle a lot more cars and drive a lot closer than human drivers, and there cold actually be less cars, as most industry experts think that people won't actually own a car in the future, but they will pay per journey from a fleet of cars, so they would pick you up, drop you off then bugger off to the next pick up.
Our clogged up streets would be empty of parked cars again, so kids will be able to play cricket against the lamp posts like I can remember, but which is completely impractical nowadays.

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Many traffic jams are caused by human error, accidents etc. Many jams are the result of people driving too fast or too slow. I remember the fuel crisis in 1999/2000. Everybody slowed to 50-60 mph to save fuel and it actually resulted in faster journeys to and from work for me.

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Originally Posted by Rjk

why would there be even more?
if all the cars on the roads were driverless they could handle a lot more cars and drive a lot closer than human drivers, and there could actually be less cars, as most industry experts think that people won't actually own a car in the future, but they will pay per journey from a fleet of cars, so they would pick you up, drop you off then bugger off to the next pick up.
Our clogged up streets would be empty of parked cars again, so kids will be able to play cricket against the lamp posts like I can remember, but which is completely impractical nowadays.

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What would happen if everybody went dogging up Caerphilly Mountain?

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Originally Posted by Wales-Bales

What would happen if everybody went dogging up Caerphilly Mountain?

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um, im really not sure what your point is

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Originally Posted by Rjk

um, im really not sure what your point is

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Where I go there are hundreds of cars. Ask Sludge.

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Originally Posted by Badly Ironed Shirt

If you don't know who Tesla are, then I am completely unsurprised that your view on electric cars is so blinkered.

The technology has been tested - earlier you were on about the range, and this is being addressed. How old are you, by the way? If you are older than 55, then I think it is possible that you will go through life without owning an electric car. If you are younger, then I think you will have little choice in the matter.

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Thanks BIS. I'm actually 65 and as neither my grandparents or my parents got into their 70's and I have suffered a heart attack ,
pneumonia and have type 2 diabetes plus a few minor ailments then I think my one year old petrol Honda CRV will see me out !

On Andrew Marr yesterday the Green Party leader said in effect " Electric cars are fine but how the electricity they use is generated is the issue. "

Add in the massive infrastructure work needed to set up charging points in garages and peoples homes then it could be a while
before they are totally common and affordable rather than a gimmick.

I hope I have to buy one but I think my personal odds are against it.

My current target is to live until 23rd April 2027.