Traffic cops, ambulance staff, hospitals , highways workers

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Originally Posted by jamieccfc

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👏👏 for Insider’s Mrs

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Originally Posted by Croesy Blue

The thing is they’re salaried employees so don’t even need to turn up tomorrow to get paid.

Everyone else is off so it is admirable them going in.

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Surely even salaried UK workers have to work a basic minimum number of hours.

I'm unsure why you and a few others had your hair over off about my premise that workers work for money above any and all other considerations. If human nature wasn't always that way it's certainly been a culture of grab everything you can since Thatcher parked her 'Aris at 10 Downing Street..

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Originally Posted by Organ Morgan.

Surely even salaried UK workers have to work a basic minimum number of hours.

I'm unsure why you and a few others had your hair over off about my premise that workers work for money above any and all other considerations. If human nature wasn't always that way it's certainly been a culture of grab everything you can since Thatcher parked her 'Aris at 10 Downing Street..

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You’re missing the point though, salaried workers are staying home tomorrow and will get paid the ones going in are doing it for more than just money as they’d still get the same if they stayed home.

There’s nothing wrong with just working for a living anyway, I do if i had an excuse to stay home tomorrow I would. But this shows even if they do work for money, it isn’t the only reason because they could easily sack tomorrow off.

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Originally Posted by Organ Morgan.

Surely even salaried UK workers have to work a basic minimum number of hours.

I'm unsure why you and a few others had your hair over off about my premise that workers work for money above any and all other considerations. If human nature wasn't always that way it's certainly been a culture of grab everything you can since Thatcher parked her 'Aris at 10 Downing Street..

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Cousins missus works in A+E.

I can say 100 percent she doesn't do it for the money, the shit they get and hours they work just doesn't justify the stress they go through.

So at a guess, that leaves wanting to help as a reason why she may do the job.

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Originally Posted by jon1959

A lot of the (many) stories today about health workers describe them sleeping overnight in hospital and working double or triple shifts to cover for colleagues who were unable to get in. A bit more than making 'the effort to get into work'. They did that too.

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I don't disagree. There are plenty of other people who do similar in different lines if work. We don't hear about them though.

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Originally Posted by life on mars

Im sure it's admiral however I guess they could choose not to go in , or were probaly sent home early, think the strain of the post was about those who had to be there, and have no choice.

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What about gas fitters and the like. Busy time of year for them.

They work for the evil corporations though, so can't be considered as angels.

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Originally Posted by Glos Blue

What a cûnt you are. Public sector workers aren’t mercenaries who do it for the pay; with a real-time pay decrease of > 20% in 8 years, most could earn a lot more in the private sector but choose not to because they WANT to help their communities.

You clearly have never had a worthwhile job that gives something back to the local population, that’s why you are so bitter and twisted!

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Without wanting to derail the thread, if you look at public say pay increases over 21 years it's greater than inflation for the same period. You can pick and choose any stat to support your own point of view

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Originally Posted by TISS

What about gas fitters and the like. Busy time of year for them.

They work for the evil corporations though, so can't be considered as angels.

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Every self employed treadesperson I know was in the pub by 1 today.

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Originally Posted by TISS

What about gas fitters and the like. Busy time of year for them.

They work for the evil corporations though, so can't be considered as angels.

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Now you’re being silly. The thread was about saluting a few people who are working extraordinarily hard tonight in adverse conditions. It’s not a dig at anyone or some subtle dig at private sector workers and the ‘evil corporations’ they work for

So spare us your false ****ing faux outrage eh?

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Originally Posted by CardiffIrish2

Whats your point ? Tonight is a rare night where some ordinary people are doing an exceptional job, why not give them a bit of extra praise?

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Because it's not just the public sector doing it. Tomorrow when the shelves at your supermarket are restocked, thank the pixies for doing it. When the trains that do run get going, be grateful for the fairies.

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Originally Posted by CardiffIrish2

Now you’re being silly. The thread was about saluting a few people who are working extraordinarily hard tonight in adverse conditions. It’s not a dig at anyone or some subtle dig at private sector workers and the ‘evil corporations’ they work for

So spare us your false ****ing faux outrage eh?

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It's not outrage. You are well versed in Sludges MO. Anything public sector = good. Anything private sector = bad.

There are a lot of people out there doing a great job, across a wide variety of disciplines.

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Originally Posted by dembethewarrior

Every self employed treadesperson I know was in the pub by 1 today.

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I've not mentioned the self employed. But good for them. I imagine there were a few others in there too.

I take it those who work in the service sector such as pubs, aren't actually providing the public with a service, according to some.

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Originally Posted by TISS

Without wanting to derail the thread, if you look at public say pay increases over 21 years it's greater than inflation for the same period. You can pick and choose any stat to support your own point of view

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So what are the results if you look at public pay increases over the last 10 years?

Stop being a prick and trying to bash public sector workers as you are fond of doing.

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Originally Posted by TISS

I've not mentioned the self employed. But good for them. I imagine there were a few others in there too.

I take it those who work in the service sector such as pubs, aren't actually providing the public with a service, according to some.

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And the OP didn't mention gas fitters and people working at evil corporations.

Cheers.

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You give a few decent people a little pat on the back and world war three breaks out :shrug:

Sludge, look what you've started mun!
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Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee

So what are the results if you look at public pay increases over the last 10 years?

Stop being a prick and trying to bash public sector workers as you are fond of doing.

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It wasn't me who started with the selective period. There was a reason 8 years was mentioned initially. Likewise there was a reason I referred to 21 years. Since one period has seen a contraction in real terms and the other period an expansion, how do we know if public sector pay has been expanding or contracting?

I've not actually said anything about public sector workers. I was questioning the selective use of stats.

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Originally Posted by dembethewarrior

And the OP didn't mention gas fitters and people working at evil corporations.

Cheers.

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Exactly. You've made my point for me. On nights like this they are equally as important

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Originally Posted by TISS

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It wasn't me who started with the selective period. There was a reason 8 years was mentioned initially. Likewise there was a reason I referred to 21 years. Since one period has seen a contraction in real terms and the other period an expansion, how do we know if public sector pay has been expanding or contracting?

I've not actually said anything about public sector workers. I was questioning the selective use of stats.

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Once a Tory....

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Originally Posted by TISS

Because it's not just the public sector doing it. Tomorrow when the shelves at your supermarket are restocked, thank the pixies for doing it. When the trains that do run get going, be grateful for the fairies.

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You are being a dick looking for attention. As had been repeatedly said nobody is besmirching those individuals inthose jobs.
The likes of the Police and ambulance service and NHS may well be dealing with fatalities tonight but hopefully more then that keeping people safe.

You’ve turned it Into some outraged Daily Mail reader rant and bringing in politics about pay rises.

Have a word with yourself, you sound ridiculous

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Originally Posted by TISS

Exactly. You've made my point for me. On nights like this they are equally as important

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As you have made mine.

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Originally Posted by Croesy Blue

Again you show yourself to be the stupidest and most ignorant man on this board.

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ahem...you cant just go throwing titles like that around so cheaply.. :(

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Originally Posted by Blooburd

ahem...you cant just go throwing titles like that around so cheaply.. :(

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Sorry if you feel robbed.

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Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee

Sorry if you feel robbed.

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if he buys me flowers than all is forgiven

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Originally Posted by TISS

It's not outrage. You are well versed in Sludges MO. Anything public sector = good. Anything private sector = bad.

There are a lot of people out there doing a great job, across a wide variety of disciplines.

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Not at all pal, it’s true trust I’m an ex cop with 14 years service but I’m now in the private sector earning more then what I did for an easier job in regards to my health and welfare.

I’m not one is good and one is bad, I’ve worked with hard workers on both sectors.

So before you go getting pissy I wasn’t as you can see slagging one out very the other.

Unlike you and your strop.

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Originally Posted by CardiffIrish2

You are being a dick looking for attention. As had been repeatedly said nobody is besmirching those individuals inthose jobs.
The likes of the Police and ambulance service and NHS may well be dealing with fatalities tonight but hopefully more then that keeping people safe.

You’ve turned it Into some outraged Daily Mail reader rant and bringing in politics about pay rises.

Have a word with yourself, you sound ridiculous

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Ive done no such thing. All i asked was why such jobs werent mentioned - it's as if they aren't important.

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Originally Posted by CardiffIrish2

Not at all pal, it’s true trust I’m an ex cop with 14 years service but I’m now in the private sector earning more then what I did for an easier job in regards to my health and welfare.

I’m not one is good and one is bad, I’ve worked with hard workers on both sectors.

So before you go getting pissy I wasn’t as you can see slagging one out very the other.

Unlike you and your strop.

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I've tried really hard to work out what you are trying to say with your penultimate paragraph but I just cant. I take it they didn't have a written exam at Hendon.

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Originally Posted by Croesy Blue

You’re missing the point though, salaried workers are staying home tomorrow and will get paid the ones going in are doing it for more than just money as they’d still get the same if they stayed home.

There’s nothing wrong with just working for a living anyway, I do if i had an excuse to stay home tomorrow I would. But this shows even if they do work for money, it isn’t the only reason because they could easily sack tomorrow off.

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You want have it both ways .

On one hand you are saying those who make it in to cover shifts are angels (presumbly to cover those who can't make it in), whereas those who stay at home (because they are salaried and don't need to get in) don't have the same obligation.

It surely follows that the public sector workers who cannot get in, and thus needs his shift covered, is in the same boat as the other stay at home salaried workers.

There will be plenty of workers from both sectors doing their normal jobs tomorrow.

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Originally Posted by TISS

I've tried really hard to work out what you are trying to say with your penultimate paragraph but I just cant. I take it they didn't have a written exam at Hendon.

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Phone screen broken so hence my typos.

My point being is that the OP started a thread saluting the ordinary people in the public sector doing their job tonight in adverse weather the like of which is rarely seen here.

You throughout have interjected with ‘what about this, what about that and then accused me of saying public sector all good private sector all bad. Which was ironic nonsense on your part as you’ve constantly expressed faux outrage.

Extremely childish and most others on here I’d say think you’re looking a bit silly.

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Originally Posted by CardiffIrish2

Phone screen broken so hence my typos.

My point being is that the OP started a thread saluting the ordinary people in the public sector doing their job tonight in adverse weather the like of which is rarely seen here.

You throughout have interjected with ‘what about this, what about that and then accused me of saying public sector all good private sector all bad. Which was ironic nonsense on your part as you’ve constantly expressed faux outrage.

Extremely childish and most others on here I’d say think you’re looking a bit silly.

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Its not faux outrage, youre well aware of sludge's stance.

The UK comes to a standstill whenever we have a little bit of snow. It makes you wonder how Canada, Norway and Switzerland all manage. They just get on with it, why can't we? I've been out in it several times today and tonight. If you drive for the conditions you will be alright.

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Originally Posted by TISS

Its not faux outrage, youre well aware of sludge's stance.

The UK comes to a standstill whenever we have a little bit of snow. It makes you wonder how Canada, Norway and Switzerland all manage. They just get on with it, why can't we? I've been out in it several times today and tonight. If you drive for the conditions you will be alright.

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You must surely know the answer to that question.

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Originally Posted by Organ Morgan.

There's much fawning nonsense to be found in this thread.

The primary reason all public sector wallahs, along with all the private sector wallahs, choose to do the jobs they do is for dough. Some may have and many pretend to have other more altruistic reasons which are more important to them than the filthy lucre, but don't be fooled because they are all money mercenaries first and last as pay and pension contributions is their true motivator.

Save your admiration for those volunteers who exchange their time and labour for no monetary gain.

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As usual you are right Organ. I was careful to omit the determiner in that sentence.

I needed help last night, but I didn't see any of the selfless angels mentioned on this thread. It was nearly midnight and my internet connection had gone. I like to watch a bit of lesbian porn before I go to sleep. It relaxes me and helps me get to sleep. I rang up Virgin but I just got some silly Indian asking me about lights on my modem. "You can stuff all that bollux", I said. "Just send a repairman around pronto." And then I slammed the phone down and waited for the Virgin van. We had a lot of snow but I thought he'd be able to make it up the hill with snow chains. After half an hour he hadn't turned up so I was going to give Virgin another bollocking on the blower when remembered I'd unplugged the modem to do a bit of hoovering. Do you know what? I thought I'd test Virgin anyway to see how long they would take to come. They never turned up. Disgusting I call it.

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Originally Posted by David Vincent

As usual you are right Organ. I was careful to omit the determiner in that sentence.

I needed help last night, but I didn't see any of the selfless angels mentioned on this thread. It was nearly midnight and my internet connection had gone. I like to watch a bit of lesbian porn before I go to sleep. It relaxes me and helps me get to sleep. I rang up Virgin but I just got some silly Indian asking me about lights on my modem. "You can stuff all that bollux", I said. "Just send a repairman around pronto." And then I slammed the phone down and waited for the Virgin van. We had a lot of snow but I thought he'd be able to make it up the hill with snow chains. After half an hour he hadn't turned up so I was going to give Virgin another bollocking on the blower when remembered I'd unplugged the modem to do a bit of hoovering. Do you know what? I thought I'd test Virgin anyway to see how long they would take to come. They never turned up. Disgusting I call it.

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appalling, my heart goes out to you

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Originally Posted by lardy

You must surely know the answer to that question.

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We aren't geared up for it. If we want those extra services on tap we need to pay more in tax.

I struggled dragging my drunken father home through the snow from the pub tonight, and two seperate men saw me struggling and helped along the way, and that made a huge difference. There are still good people about!

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Originally Posted by A Quiet Monkfish

ah, they don't count, do they ?

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I posted a :facepalm: because I thought this was completely the wrong type of thread for him to carry on his boring, decade or more long, campaign against the public sector and the people who work in it.

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

I posted a :facepalm: because I thought this was completely the wrong type of thread for him to carry on his boring, decade or more long, campaign against the public sector and the people who work in it.

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It seems that people of that political persuasions and their endless tedious derogatory posts about the public sector could do well to educate themselves with what public sector workers have to put up with.

I admire anyone public or private sector who works hard, can’t fault the staff at co-op Rhwbina today for opening up and working hard.

Sadly our outraged public sector haters will never be dissuaded from their usual bollocks post.

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

I posted a :facepalm: because I thought this was completely the wrong type of thread for him to carry on his boring, decade or more long, campaign against the public sector and the people who work in it.

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Fair enough. But there's no denying that in this part of the world there's a love-in with all things public sector, and a disdain for those in the private sector.

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Originally Posted by A Quiet Monkfish

Fair enough. But there's no denying that in this part of the world there's a love-in with all things public sector, and a disdain for those in the private sector.

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Bollocks, a stupid sweeping generalisation.

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Originally Posted by A Quiet Monkfish

Fair enough. But there's no denying that in this part of the world there's a love-in with all things public sector, and a disdain for those in the private sector.

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That’s rubbish and completely irrelevant in this thread.

I know a few coppers , one of em is a Tory the other labour but this thread wasn't about politics , other silly planks have made it that way

But if they want to ? Then here we go ....... Theresa may was yesterday praising the emergency services police , nurses etc and she has frozen their pay for sake , no wonder most of them vote Labour