Re: Petition to try to stop the FA selling Wembley
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Originally Posted by
City123
Couldn't care less where FA Cup finals etc are played, there are plenty of historic stadiums in the country and the Millennium Stadium wasn't a bad stand in
If anything Wembley is overused, the National League playoff final between Tranmere and Boreham Wood was played at Wembley FFS! Why? Why not somewhere like Stamford Bridge where they might actually fill it?
Ask the players and fans of the teams who get to play there whether they would prefer to play it at a different smaller stadium and see what answer you get.
Re: Petition to try to stop the FA selling Wembley
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Originally Posted by
dml1954
Ask the players and fans of the teams who get to play there whether they would prefer to play it at a different smaller stadium and see what answer you get.
If you offered them cheaper tickets at a smaller venue they'd take it. Boreham Wood & Tranmere fans were going on about it over the weekend
There's no mystique to the stadium, its in the middle of nowhere and is a corporate bowl. Its riding on the coattails of its predecessor and has cost far too much and they charge far too much for tickets to cover costs.
Re: Petition to try to stop the FA selling Wembley
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severncity
The only public funding to redevelop Wembley was £120 million from the lottery which was swallowed up by the cost of demolition and land purchases. The remaining funding - nearly £700 milllion - was from loans. Given that any money raised from selling Wembley will be ploughed back into grass roots football I don’t see a problem as supporting participation in sport is part of the national lottery’s remit.
And besides it is the English national stadium so I don’t care a great deal. As long as the FA cup final, league cup final and playoff finals are held there it will make no difference to us as Cardiff City fans.
Sorry but your information is wrong. In addition to the £120m lottery grant, another £41m of funding was provided by Government agencies (London Development Agency and Dept for Culture Media and Sport). £161m of the cost was therefore provided from the public.
Re: Petition to try to stop the FA selling Wembley
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Originally Posted by
City123
If you offered them cheaper tickets at a smaller venue they'd take it. Boreham Wood & Tranmere fans were going on about it over the weekend
There's no mystique to the stadium, its in the middle of nowhere and is a corporate bowl. Its riding on the coattails of its predecessor and has cost far too much and they charge far too much for tickets to cover costs.
No mystique to the stadium !!. You are joking arent you ?. It is still the second biggest stadium in Europe. The facilities in the ground are second to none. Why does it matter where it is located - it is on the site of the original ground. Just because its is inconvenient for you to get to, doesn't mean its not still an iconic ground. Loads of fans moaned about the Millenium stadium when it was used instead, due to inaccessibility and parking issues but I guess you found it good because you were nearer to it, so thats ok.
Re: Petition to try to stop the FA selling Wembley
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dml1954
Didn't you all grow up like I did wanting to go there and experience it and wonder at the occasion of the Cup Final. Don't we all still want to go and watch City play there again ?.
No.
Not especially.
Re: Petition to try to stop the FA selling Wembley
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Originally Posted by
dml1954
No mystique to the stadium !!. You are joking arent you ?. It is still the second biggest stadium in Europe. The facilities in the ground are second to none. Why does it matter where it is located - it is on the site of the original ground. Just because its is inconvenient for you to get to, doesn't mean its not still an iconic ground. Loads of fans moaned about the Millenium stadium when it was used instead, due to inaccessibility and parking issues but I guess you found it good because you were nearer to it, so thats ok.
Inaccessibility? Its in the middle of a feckin city centre!
No, there isn't anything special about the new Wembley Stadium, its an average modern stadium riding on the coattails of its predecessor. When its used as the stadium for the final of the Checkatrade Trophy and Tottenham Hotspur home game, it loses any kind of mystique it has in my view
Of course it matters where its located, an occasion such as a cup final isn't 90 minutes, its a full day, you don't want the stadium to be in the middle of nowhere
That final comment is a load of bollocks, the Millennium gets rave reviews from visiting fans and is known as a great venue to watch sport, be it football or rugby
Re: Petition to try to stop the FA selling Wembley
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Originally Posted by
dml1954
Ask the players and fans of the teams who get to play there whether they would prefer to play it at a different smaller stadium and see what answer you get.
I'd rather go to spurs new stadium, the Emirates, old Trafford,st James park, Stamford bridge, villa park
Re: Petition to try to stop the FA selling Wembley
In theory, if British lottery players are funding English only grass roots sport then it seems wrong. But if you start along that path then it's likely to get messy and probably not worth the endless dispute for a one off.
Re: Petition to try to stop the FA selling Wembley
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Originally Posted by
dml1954
No mystique to the stadium !!. You are joking arent you ?. It is still the second biggest stadium in Europe. The facilities in the ground are second to none. Why does it matter where it is located - it is on the site of the original ground. Just because its is inconvenient for you to get to, doesn't mean its not still an iconic ground. Loads of fans moaned about the Millenium stadium when it was used instead, due to inaccessibility and parking issues but I guess you found it good because you were nearer to it, so thats ok.
Every fan I've spoken to who's team has played at The Millennium said they preferred it to the New Wembley and would have the games back there at the drop of a hat.
Clearly the fans you've spoken to have the same rose tinted glasses as you.
Re: Petition to try to stop the FA selling Wembley
Thought you were boycotting the Welsh games at the Mill Stad? Can’t be that good there.
Re: Petition to try to stop the FA selling Wembley
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City123
Inaccessibility? Its in the middle of a feckin city centre!
No, there isn't anything special about the new Wembley Stadium, its an average modern stadium riding on the coattails of its predecessor. When its used as the stadium for the final of the Checkatrade Trophy and Tottenham Hotspur home game, it loses any kind of mystique it has in my view
Of course it matters where its located, an occasion such as a cup final isn't 90 minutes, its a full day, you don't want the stadium to be in the middle of nowhere
That final comment is a load of bollocks, the Millennium gets rave reviews from visiting fans and is known as a great venue to watch sport, be it football or rugby
Yeah right - for big games, the City is gridlocked, the M4 blocked for miles each way and there is nowhere to park. Trains dont run for long after games and there are not enough buses. Also I repeat that the Millenium stadium is not a football stadium, the WRU dont want it there really and only their financial situation forces them to lease it out. My assessment, apparently unlike yours, of a stadium isnt based upon the proximity to bars and pubs where supporters can get bladdered before the game and thereby probably not remember what the stadium was like inside anyway.
Re: Petition to try to stop the FA selling Wembley
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Harry Monk
Every fan I've spoken to who's team has played at The Millennium said they preferred it to the New Wembley and would have the games back there at the drop of a hat.
Clearly the fans you've spoken to have the same rose tinted glasses as you.
Nicholas Alt wrote in his book 'The boys from the Mersey' , sod Wembley, give the cup finals to the Taffs, he said the scousers loved it playing at the mill stad, they had nothing but praise for our fine city and the stadium.
Re: Petition to try to stop the FA selling Wembley
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dml1954
Yeah right - for big games, the City is gridlocked, the M4 blocked for miles each way and there is nowhere to park. Trains dont run for long after games and there are not enough buses. Also I repeat that the Millenium stadium is not a football stadium, the WRU dont want it there really and only their financial situation forces them to lease it out. My assessment, apparently unlike yours, of a stadium isnt based upon the proximity to bars and pubs where supporters can get bladdered before the game and thereby probably not remember what the stadium was like inside anyway.
I'm confused are you saying it's ok for 75k rugby fans but there's too much traffic, not enough trains and nowhere to park for 75k football fans?
Re: Petition to try to stop the FA selling Wembley
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dml1954
I didnt start the petition. I was just asking if anyone on here wanted to sign it. I had a feeling that I might be wasting my time because quite a few people on this board couldn't care less about the wider picture and history of the game. I know what Wembley meant to me as a child and still means to me now. I am Welsh and proud of it but have family and many friends in England. The world doesnt stop at the Severn Bridge like some people would have us believe.
Equally, the world doesn't revolve around England as many people believe......or more acurately presume......or even more accurately, presume the rest of us believe.
Re: Petition to try to stop the FA selling Wembley
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dml1954
Just noticed this on the government petition website. An effort to stop the American billionaire owner of Fulham grabbing the National Stadium and using it for his own ends. Anyone who feels like me that it shouldnt be sold to him can click on this link and add their details. It was renovated using 'our' public money and National Lottery funds.
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/219222
Pass it on to other people as well if you can.
I think they should take the cash, the Government should insist that the money is re-invested back into the game, from grass roots level right up to League One. There are plenty of good grounds that they can play at instead
Old Trafford - 77,000
New White Hart Lane - 62,000
Emirates - 60,000
Olympic Stadium
Anfield
St James' Park
Villa Park
Hillsborough
Re: Petition to try to stop the FA selling Wembley
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jamieccfc
I'm confused are you saying it's ok for 75k rugby fans but there's too much traffic, not enough trains and nowhere to park for 75k football fans?
No - its the same for both.
Re: Petition to try to stop the FA selling Wembley
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Harry Monk
That Shahid Khan bloke looks like a Bond movie villain from Splott Market
Re: Petition to try to stop the FA selling Wembley
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Originally Posted by
dml1954
Sorry but your information is wrong. In addition to the £120m lottery grant, another £41m of funding was provided by Government agencies (London Development Agency and Dept for Culture Media and Sport). £161m of the cost was therefore provided from the public.
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Re: Petition to try to stop the FA selling Wembley
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William Treseder
Thought you were boycotting the Welsh games at the Mill Stad? Can’t be that good there.
If that is aimed at me, yes I am. I didn't say I would have football matches there. It's immaterial now anyway, as Wales competitive games will be played at The CCS.
