Ban dogs on sports pitches?

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Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa

Yes, you are the one proposing a ban on football. And trust me, it is expensive.

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I'm not. I have no problem with people playing football on a saturday/sunday morning. I just find it arrogant to think they can dictate how the space be used when they are not using it and therefore suggested they move along to another venue that meets their standards rather than shunting others.

It's expensive ? So is Gol. How much do you want to play football ? Enough for each player to fork out an extra 2 quid a week ? Surely that would pay for the neccessary equipment to check and clean a football pitch . Get the players to turn up 5 minutes early to make sure THEIR playing surface is up to standard. I dunno, be prepared to put a little head and leg work in.

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Originally Posted by Divine Wright

I'm not. I have no problem with people playing football on a saturday/sunday morning. I just find it arrogant to think they can dictate how the space be used when they are not using it and therefore suggested they move along to another venue that meets their standards rather than shunting others.

It's expensive ? So is Gol. How much do you want to play football ? Enough for each player to fork out an extra 2 quid a week ? Surely that would pay for the neccessary equipment to check and clean a football pitch . Get the players to turn up 5 minutes early to make sure THEIR playing surface is up to standard. I dunno, be prepared to put a little head and leg work in.

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You're dictating where people should play football, and letting dog walkers who are the issue roam free. When dog owners in this thread can see the problems, while you, who doesn't have a dog can't is more than a little odd. Nobody is tarring all dogs/dog owners with the same brush but unfortunately, some dog owners don't clean up after their dog. Seems reasonable to have some parks for dogs, and some parks for football, cricket, rugby etc.

Also, Gol is just 5/7 a side. You're proposing to stop the 11 a side game in Cardiff. Give you head a wobble.

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Originally Posted by Divine Wright

I'm not. I have no problem with people playing football on a saturday/sunday morning. I just find it arrogant to think they can dictate how the space be used when they are not using it and therefore suggested they move along to another venue that meets their standards rather than shunting others.

It's expensive ? So is Gol. How much do you want to play football ? Enough for each player to fork out an extra 2 quid a week ? Surely that would pay for the neccessary equipment to check and clean a football pitch . Get the players to turn up 5 minutes early to make sure THEIR playing surface is up to standard. I dunno, be prepared to put a little head and leg work in.

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Yet the fact SOME dog owners expect to be able to let their dogs shit all over the shop and expect others to pick up after them is not arrogance. If pitches are used by children then **** dog owners to be frank. With obesity etc, any spaces used to encourage children to exercise should be looked after and clean.

If the council provide sport and recreation facilities, they have to be fit for purpose, i.e. not covered in dog shit.

You wouldn't expect to find turds floating in the swimming pool at your local leisure centre (if they still exist).

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Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa

You're dictating where people should play football, and letting dog walkers who are the issue roam free. When dog owners in this thread can see the problems, while you, who doesn't have a dog can't is more than a little odd. Nobody is tarring all dogs/dog owners with the same brush but unfortunately, some dog owners don't clean up after their dog. Seems reasonable to have some parks for dogs, and some parks for football, cricket, rugby etc.

Also, Gol is just 5/7 a side. You're proposing to stop the 11 a side game in Cardiff.Give you head a wobble.

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Why stop at eliminating the 11 a side game in Cardiff? I propose we ban all professional football in Britain on the grounds that it consumes too much electricity. Global warming should take precedence over people running around chasing a ball. Also ban TV's for the same reason. If we're going to be stupid we might as well be really stupid :thumbup:

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Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa

How about the dog walkers on the sports pitches "go elsewhere" as clearly they're the ones not picking up dog muck. It can cause blindness and wounds to get infected. They're not on about banning dogs from parks, just areas where football/rugby etc is played.

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Dogs are let off leads to run around, you could try and tell them to shit anywhere but on the pitches, but im not sure they would listen or understand 😄

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Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie

Hopefully, human beings don't leave traces of excrement on the grass which could be detrimental or unpleasant for dogs.

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Gary Lineker, we are looking at you!

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Originally Posted by ken smith

Yet the fact SOME dog owners expect to be able to let their dogs shit all over the shop and expect others to pick up after them is not arrogance. If pitches are used by children then **** dog owners to be frank. With obesity etc, any spaces used to encourage children to exercise should be looked after and clean.

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The fat bastards should adopt a dog. That’ll get them out walking.

I was walking our dog down some fields near Porthcawl last winter, the took a shit and as I went to bag it a guy shouted across to me to leave it there, I thought he was having me on and continued to pick it up, had a chat and turned out he was the farmer said next time leave your shit in the fields it is good for land!

Obviously this was privately owned farm land, but never thought about it in that way before.

If the dogs can't play football, they should not be allowed to poo on the field.

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Originally Posted by Divine Wright

I'm not. I have no problem with people playing football on a saturday/sunday morning. I just find it arrogant to think they can dictate how the space be used when they are not using it and therefore suggested they move along to another venue that meets their standards rather than shunting others.

It's expensive ? So is Gol. How much do you want to play football ? Enough for each player to fork out an extra 2 quid a week ? Surely that would pay for the necessary equipment to check and clean a football pitch . Get the players to turn up 5 minutes early to make sure THEIR playing surface is up to standard. I dunno, be prepared to put a little head and leg work in.

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You really are being silly, and arrogant, there is a high risk of children and adults going blind by being in contact with dog faeces, and just because someone goes around removing muck from a playing fields does not mean that the ground is free from bacteria, any dog owner that lets their dog roam on a sports pitch is being irresponsible and selfish with no thought of the health of people using these pitches, so it seems to me you are exactly the same, if you are not just on a windup!

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Originally Posted by Divine Wright

The fat bastards should adopt a dog. That’ll get them out walking.

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Let's hope that they don't fall between two stools.

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Originally Posted by Igovernor

You really are being silly, and arrogant, there is a high risk of children and adults going blind by being in contact with dog faeces, and just because someone goes around removing muck from a playing fields does not mean that the ground is free from bacteria, any dog owner that lets their dog roam on a sports pitch is being irresponsible and selfish with no thought of the health of people using these pitches, so it seems to me you are exactly the same, if you are not just on a windup!

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Wooh. How dare you call me silly. You rogue.

You’re being soft butt. Go on, go and google dog shit related blindness and then tell me about the 2 cases in the last 30 years.

Head related injuries from playing football/cricket/rugby are far more common and serious than toxocariasis.

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Originally Posted by Wales-Bales

Why stop at eliminating the 11 a side game in Cardiff? I propose we ban all professional football in Britain on the grounds that it consumes too much electricity. Global warming should take precedence over people running around chasing a ball. Also ban TV's for the same reason. If we're going to be stupid we might as well be really stupid :thumbup:

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At least we wouldn't have to watch city lose every week. Could get on board with that. :hehe:

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Originally Posted by Divine Wright

You need to read back for context.

The areas they are proposing the bans are parkland.....which double as sports fields periodically.

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They may be used periodically but they don't double as sport fields periodically.

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Originally Posted by Divine Wright

Wooh. How dare you call me silly. You rogue.

You’re being soft butt. Go on, go and google dog shit related blindness and then tell me about the 2 cases in the last 30 years.

Head related injuries from playing football/cricket/rugby are far more common and serious than toxocariasis.

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You did well there by making allowances for Igovernor. He's at the homemade horseradish wine most evenings and is befuddled by half-eight to 9pm. When the News at Ten adverts come on he's out the front loudly offering to fight any neighbours who care to take him on. None ever do, they just turn the volume up on their TVs.

Actually I do not drink, but you really are an idiot who is probably pissed by 09.00,

and for Divine wright

It's hard to determine exactly how many cases occur every year, as the condition is often misdiagnosed or undiagnosed. Many people are likely to have been exposed to the parasites without knowing it.
In general, toxocariasis is more common in children and young adults

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Originally Posted by Igovernor

Actually I do not drink, but you really are an idiot who is probably pissed by 09.00,

and for Divine wright

It's hard to determine exactly how many cases occur every year, as the condition is often misdiagnosed or undiagnosed. Many people are likely to have been exposed to the parasites without knowing it.
In general, toxocariasis is more common in children and young adults

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I just felt you were being sensational.

The reality is that toxocariasis related blindness is very rare.

I mean if you are basing the whole premise of banning dogs on that, I think it's a bit light and overzealous.

BTW, how would you police the banning of dogs in Llandaff fields ? If there is going to be a warden there all day making sure no dogs set foot on the pitches, couldn't that same person be employed to fine (shit) litterers and let the majority of responsible dog owners enjoy their walk and not be penalised for the dullards who don't respect the rules ?

Perhaps it would be possible to erect some sort of fencing just around the pitches, then the dogs would be free to to their business everywhere except on the pitches, maybe it is not practical to fence off. Something needs to be done, but that is why we pay taxes, for someone in authority to make those decisions.
As for the policing part I do not agree with banning dogs from open fields (as long as people pick up their mess) just a ban on the pitches

Info from the council -

https://www.cardiff.gov.uk/ENG/resid...-Orders/Pages/

And the survey-

https://www.snapsurveys.com/wh/s.asp?k=153199160687

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-wales-45951716
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Common sense prevails

Even if you clean up all the does mess theres residue left behind.
I ****ing hate dogs on sports field.
People who walk them on sports fields are morons
What about worms etc.
Like the guy said his friend lost a leg.
What if a kid gets a worm in a eye.
For **** sake walk them somewhere esle

Mis-information wins out. At no point does the PSPO state dogs will be banned from parks which is what the petition claimed.

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Originally Posted by PontBlue

Mis-information wins out. At no point does the PSPO state dogs will be banned from parks which is what the petition claimed.

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This ^

Ah well, at least the protesters are happy. They can continue to let their dog shit on any sports pitch in Cardiff. They must be over the moon.