Bye Neil, happy retirement

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

Yes, I forgot about him. Paterson has been a good signing, but we only paid a small amount of compensation for him, he was a Bosman free transfer, Warnock's record is very poor for "normal" signings.

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We're light years behind teams like Norwich, Watford, - even Huddersfield, in terms of recruitment. Clubs like these seem to have players who are 'off the radar' already identified and seem to sign them up without them being touted around as soon as they get a sniff of interest. We just seem to pick up whoever's being touted by the agents that week. I wouldn't say it's all down to Warnock..

100% agree, Bamba for all his "leadership qualities" always has a mistake in him. Morrison and Manga have to be the spine in the centre next season.

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Originally Posted by A Quiet Monkfish

We're light years behind teams like Norwich, Watford, - even Huddersfield, in terms of recruitment. Clubs like these seem to have players who are 'off the radar' already identified and seem to sign them up without them being touted around as soon as they get a sniff of interest. We just seem to pick up whoever's being touted by the agents that week. I wouldn't say it's all down to Warnock..

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We’ve bought a real bag of lemons over the last couple of years and Madine has to be right up there. Whoever heads up player recruitment needs a P45!

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

Huddersfield spent less and stayed up last season Steve - we can argue about whether we should have spent more, but the money we did have to buy players with was spent poorly.

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Yes, Paul, we can discuss it until the cows come home. Money has been wasted on players who are nowhere near playing which is galling. However, for a team coming up to the PL I think you need to spend between £50-70m on players of PL standard which Huddersfield did and paid double our wage cap. A summer spend of £28m (only on Championship players) due to a cap of £30k/wk wages will never bring another season in the PL.

However, I'm not a fan of the rarified air of the top tier and won't miss it.

Hope to see you on MaYA soon.

StT.
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Originally Posted by hueypianosmith

100% agree, Bamba for all his "leadership qualities" always has a mistake in him. Morrison and Manga have to be the spine in the centre next season.

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Unfortunately I don't think Manga will be here as his contract is up and I can't see him staying. Assuming of course that someone else wants him, nobody did 2 years ago.

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Originally Posted by cardiff55

Unfortunately I don't think Manga will be here as his contract is up and I can't see him staying. Assuming of course that someone else wants him, nobody did 2 years ago.

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Haven't we used an option in Manga's contract to keep him for another year?

We have missed Bamba and Patterson.
Also Ralls today.
The 3 of them are fighters

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Exactly and, to be fair to him, he has always said that he only thinks in the short term at his age.

It seems a good time to think of a change of direction now, but there is a risk involved because, although his style of football grates with me, it has to be accepted that Warnock is very good at some aspects of the manager's job and we'd struggle to get someone as good as him in those.

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He originally came in to turn the club around and stop our slide.
He did that and congratulations to him but the future blocks is not something he is good at, or cares about.
My fear is that trying to change back to a footballing club is a long process and one which several of our current players would undoubtedly fail.

He's had to start from. scratch
The academy was fcuked.
Holliet Etheridge. Patterson. Lang.Bamba.
all signed.
Reid & Murphy. will improve.
Cunningham is a decent championship player.
The downside Tomlin & Madine
I wouldn't be surprised if we have a, similar influx of players this time.
Use the parachute money wisely and the Bluebirds will fly again

I’m not sure I trust the people who would be selecting a new manager. Even if NW chipped in. Can you see Warnock sourcing an up and coming non-english manager ? As for the board , they don’t appear to have what it takes either.

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I’m not sure I trust the people who would be selecting a new manager. Even if NW chipped in. Can you see Warnock sourcing an up and coming non-english manager ? As for the board , they don’t appear to have what it takes either.

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Give Bellamy a go and see how he does.

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Originally Posted by dandywarhol

We have missed Bamba and Patterson.
Also Ralls today.
The 3 of them are fighters

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Ralls lacks composure and that bit of quality needed. Bamba, on his day is very good, but then you just know his next costly howler is just around the corner.
I still can't work out where Patterson should play - he can't defend, he doesn't have the passing ability to play midfield, he doesn't have the pace to play out wide, and up top he can't quite cut it (I liken his start to the Premier campaign to that of Madine's purple patch for Bolton... it was never going to be sustainable).