Not at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by NYCBlue
It was a throw away comment that the leaders are in it for themselves.
They also say things they don't really believe in and it's a though it doesn't really matter.
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Not at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by NYCBlue
It was a throw away comment that the leaders are in it for themselves.
They also say things they don't really believe in and it's a though it doesn't really matter.
Oh really?Quote:
Originally Posted by splott parker
A far bigger say than the Americans, some would say.Quote:
Originally Posted by splott parker
Highlight of the Queens life, it seems. According to Donald that is.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">“There are those that say they have never seen the Queen have a better time, a more animated time.” <a href="https://t.co/rrg2JORrne">pic.twitter.com/rrg2JORrne</a></p>— Maggie Haberman (@maggieNYT) <a href="https://twitter.com/maggieNYT/status/1136962102663483393?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 7, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
We have always cosied up to the yanks though, remember the shame of the arsewipe Tony Blair doing it with bush over Iraq? 2 million people march saying no, but the buffoon does it anyway and millions of idiots voted him in......did trump say nazi’s were fine people? I really doubt that, you made it up didn’t you?Quote:
Originally Posted by Croesy Blue
You are right. What Trump said after Charlottesville was there were "very fine people on both sides,"Quote:
Originally Posted by goats
This was the event where a UNITE THE RIGHT rally of white-supremacists, neo-Nazis, Nazis and other racists was faced by a peaceful counter-demonstration. But it annoyed one Nazi so much that he decided to drive his car into them, killing Heather Heyer and injuring 28 others.
Donald Trump was very clear about his sympathies and views - despite some pathetic recent attempts by Trump supporting commentators to re-write history and claim his comments related to peaceful and nostalgic modern day Confederates who wanted to keep a statue to Robert E Lee standing. That was not the context of Trump's remarks at the time. He saw the Nazis as part of his base to be defended, and the counter demonstrators as the enemy.
Very fine people after one of them had driven a car into a crowd and killed someone too.
He’s scum, no 2 ways about it.
I’ve kind of learnt from the past that once you and Croesy get into full flow on a thread, it’s time to bow out. My point in the opening post was just my opinion. I think Trump is a tosser, but protests through the few days of the D-Day anniversary was in bad taste. Just my opinion.Quote:
Originally Posted by lardy
Out of interest, how many days before or after d day would it be acceptable to protest?Quote:
Originally Posted by William Treseder
Once again, it’s just my opinion, but anytime otherQuote:
Originally Posted by Rjk
The week leading up it. Do you have a problem with my opinion?
Trump was in the UK from 3 to 5 June for a state visit.Quote:
Originally Posted by William Treseder
The 75th anniversary of D-Day Landings was 6 June. Trump was in France for that, along with a variety of other world leaders.
I'm not being pedantic here. Indeed, on the contrary, you're being disingenuous by claiming was Trump was in the UK for the 75th anniversary of the D-Day landings when he so obviously wasn't.
Do I think it would have been appropriate for anti-Trump protests to have taken place if he had been here on the 75th anniversary of D-Day? No, I do not. Do I think it was appropriate for anti-Trump protests to have taken place while he was here for a state visit at the expense of the UK tax-payers? Absolutely, 100%.
Massive amounts of insincere shite piled up in this thread.
Nobody but nobody will give a flying feck about marking the 76th anniversary of D-Day next year just as nobody but nobody gave a flying feck about marking the 74th anniversary of D-Day last year. The next time someone, anyone, will give two fecking hoots about remembering D-Day will be in 2024 for the 80th anniversary, and as with this year the only reason they'll care - or more accurately, pretend to care, mostly for appearance's sake - will be because the goggle box and other elements of corporate media will shove it down their necks.
When Macron spoke to Trump about hotel facilities in France Trump probably thought that 'bidet' was two days before 'D-Day'.
The weird morons protesting clearly didn't give a sh!t about D-day.Quote:
Originally Posted by lardy
QED.
Good. As in most threads on here, it’s all about opinions.👍Quote:
Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman
I think most of the veterans will mark it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Organ Morgan.
Just my opinion but if you post your opinion then others may give their opinions too so if you don't want to hear anyone elses opinion in addition to your own opinion then you should not click on the thread once you've told everyone your opinion.Quote:
Originally Posted by William Treseder
Which days were they protesting? Which day was D-Day?Quote:
Originally Posted by JDerrida
See. You just can’t help yourself can you? Obviously posters have different opinions, which is fine. Trouble is, you and Croesy are like a tag team trying to bore folk shitless. Your like a pair of pimples on someone’s arse. You don’t hurt, but you always know your there.Quote:
Originally Posted by lardy
To help those who don't think there were protests coinciding with D Day perhaps the following will help reporting the anti Trump demonstrations at the D Day event at Southsea.Quote:
Originally Posted by lardy
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-englan...shire-48527371
I have already corrected you regarding this particular piece of disinformation, so now you are outright lying!Quote:
Originally Posted by lardy
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">NEW via my <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/FOIA?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#FOIA</a> from Dept of the Navy. <br><br>Remember last November when WH said Trump could not attend WW1 memorial at US cemetery in France due to rain? <br><br>Well, his transport really was canceled by the Navy due to rain.<br><br>Emails <a href="https://t.co/pkkKwsX2Bs">pic.twitter.com/pkkKwsX2Bs</a></p>— Jason Leopold (@JasonLeopold) <a href="https://twitter.com/JasonLeopold/status/1133391265222025218?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 28, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Lyings nothing new with old Lardy. He’s got form.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
in terms of the original post I agree with William the wrong time to protest
Was just watching a video about Pino and this came up next in the play list
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQDDzq792Qw
Alex Lifeson doing his DJT impression, I also think that Geddy Lee is a bit Bono looking :-)
I'd just like to add that I'm totally fine with protests against Trump happening during the remembrance of a time that our nation opposed a right wing regime. Some 'snowflakes' on here are obviously a bit precious about it though.
Bollocks. D-Day is remembered every year. And will be, long after the last of the survivors are gone. It began the end of WWII, the most significant event in the whole of the 20th Century.Quote:
Originally Posted by Organ Morgan.
What do you mean political point scoring?Quote:
Originally Posted by William Treseder
What do you think it means? The DDay celebrations were to remember the fallen, not to protest about an American politician and his policies.Quote:
Originally Posted by Croesy Blue
I don’t know I’m asking you.
I think the protests were more about our government cosying up to him rather than his policies weren’t they?
Do you think the people who shot Nazis would be upset about people exercising their right to free speech and freedom to protest against someone who has said things that support the far right on the same day as the “celebration”?
It doesn’t really matter what I think does it? You’ll put me right.Quote:
Originally Posted by Croesy Blue
I’m only asking you a question. I’m not having a go.
Why start a thread if you don’t want to discuss it?
[QUOTE=Croesy Blue;4978680]I’m only asking you a question. I’m not having a go.
Why start a thread if you don’t want to discuss it
What’s to discuss? I’ve posted my opinion on it. Others have posted theirs. You’re like a dog with a bone. You need to except that others have different opinions than you on certain topics. Just accept it and move on. You always appear to “infest” a thread, rather than contribute.
I’ve asked you 1 question how much more of a contribution can a person make? I’ve posted 3 times in a 3 page thread before this, you’ve posted 15.
Do you think it’s just it’s just that you don’t like different opinions?
No. It’s the fact that you just can’t accept a straight forward answer..Quote:
Originally Posted by Croesy Blue
What straight forward answer have you given?Quote:
Originally Posted by William Treseder
You think it’s bad that there was protests on the same day as the D day I don’t. I told you why I didn’t think it was bad, fair enough if you think it is I was just trying to get you to consider it from another point of view.
At least someone is acknowledging there were protests on the same day as D day which some others claim there weren't.Quote:
Originally Posted by Croesy Blue
I’ve looked at it from your point of view, and I still have the same opinion. Can you please just accept that?Quote:
Originally Posted by Croesy Blue
Really?Quote:
Originally Posted by Croesy Blue
They were protesting against Trump, not so much against the Government.
Your interpretation is that they were cosying up to Trump.
You need to have dialogue when in Government with those you dislike, otherwise nothing ever progresses (like here).
If Corbyn had been in May's shoes, would he have refused to meet Trump and refused to discuss potential trade deals with America?
How on earth would that approach move anything forward?
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Originally Posted by JDerrida
Corbyn did ask to meet Trump. Trump refused. He preferred to talk to Farage and the Tory leadership candidates. Corbyn (and the leaders of the LibDems, Greens, SNP etc) objected to the extended photo opportunity and ceremonial froth that May put on for Trump.
It's what leaders do for Heads of State!!Quote:
Originally Posted by jon1959
He refused to meet him formally, spoke at protest rally against Trump and then wanted to engage with him on his own terms at extremely short notice.
He's the leader of one of the opposition parties. He doesn't get to pick and choose his terms for meeting one of the world's major Head of State.
Also, any very senior politician from the vast majority of countries, will have a very tight, pre-arranged schedule.
Yet you, others and Corbyn act surprised and blame Trump for not 'wanting' or 'choosing' to attend a meeting that Corbyn wanted.
It seems like it was an afterthought from Corbyn. Leaders lead with forethought.
Do you know who the leaders of opposition are in many European countries?
Can you imagine them refusing to formally meet, for example, Putin, speaking at a protest rally against him, want to meet him on their terms at very short notice and then wonder why he refuses.
It really is that ludicrous.