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Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa

Who or what is making it easier for them? There will always be racists. Our next PM is a racist, for starters.

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The victims of racism and bullying are making it easier, by using those very same words and terms to insult themselves..

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Originally Posted by William Treseder

The victims of racism and bullying are making it easier, by using those very same words and terms to insult themselves..

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As for our next PM being a racist. Then he needs to be called out on it constantly and at every opportunity.

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Originally Posted by William Treseder

As for our next PM being a racist. Then he needs to be called out on it constantly and at every opportunity.

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Most people are aware, they just don't care because he's a Tory.

For whatever reason, it's considered offensive. So just don't use it to describe a person. I shouldn't imagine this will have much of an impact on your everyday life.

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Originally Posted by William Treseder

How old are you? My point is, it’s a horrible word that nobody of any colour should be using anymore.
It’s akin to Welsh folk getting in 1st, and describing themselves as sheep shaggers.

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Have you ever been to a Cardiff City match? We literally sing 1-0 to the sheep shaggers :facepalm:

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Originally Posted by delmbox

Have you ever been to a Cardiff City match? We literally sing 1-0 to the sheep shaggers :facepalm:

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Seeing as you’re only 36, then I’d wager I’ve been to hundreds more City games than you. Also if you look a bit further up the thread, I’ve actually said “ when we sing “1 nil to the sheep shaggers”.
Never mind. Don’t let that stop you and others who like to jump into a thread without reading through it and spout a load of pish. 👍

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Originally Posted by William Treseder

Seeing as you’re only 36, then I’d wager I’ve been to hundreds more City games than you. Also if you look a bit further up the thread, I’ve actually said “ when we sing “1 nil to the sheep shaggers”.
Never mind. Don’t let that stop you and others who like to jump into a thread without reading through it and spout a load of pish. ��

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I can absolutely promise you it won't

Very entertaining thread but I still can't believe the original post. Are we trying to decimate the English language ? To my mind the word oriental means of the east, end of story. No ifs or buts or maybes. It's been the answer to so many crossword clues over the years (and still is) I find it laughable that anyone can consider the word offensive. I hate political correctness at the best of times and if this is what the future holds I feel sorry for the up and coming generation, whose mother tongue gets diluted week by week. This is not me condoning the n word or the like, which are rightly considered to be offensive but we have to draw the line somewhere.

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Originally Posted by delmbox

I can absolutely promise you it won't

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Good for you. At least you’ll be consistent 👍

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Originally Posted by Moodybluebird

Very entertaining thread but I still can't believe the original post. Are we trying to decimate the English language ? To my mind the word oriental means of the east, end of story. No ifs or buts or maybes. It's been the answer to so many crossword clues over the years (and still is) I find it laughable that anyone can consider the word offensive. I hate political correctness at the best of times and if this is what the future holds I feel sorry for the up and coming generation, whose mother tongue gets diluted week by week. This is not me condoning the n word or the like, which are rightly considered to be offensive but we have to draw the line somewhere.

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The word itself isn't offensive, I don't think anyone has said it was.
If I said the "new girl in work is an oriental" then that does seem a little ignorant and offensive. By no means as obliquely offensive as some things, but certainly not something I would say, it just doesn't seem right.

Other things like, some artwork or a rug for example it wouldn't seem as bad.

I absolutely do not feel sorry for the younger generation that they are more aware of the intricacies of these things when talking to people of different backgrounds. They will inevitably be more successful at it than older generations and that can only lead to richer and more fulfilling lives.

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Originally Posted by Moodybluebird

Very entertaining thread but I still can't believe the original post. Are we trying to decimate the English language ? To my mind the word oriental means of the east, end of story. No ifs or buts or maybes. It's been the answer to so many crossword clues over the years (and still is) I find it laughable that anyone can consider the word offensive. I hate political correctness at the best of times and if this is what the future holds I feel sorry for the up and coming generation, whose mother tongue gets diluted week by week. This is not me condoning the n word or the like, which are rightly considered to be offensive but we have to draw the line somewhere.

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You've just outed yourself as a bigoted far-right extremist who reads offensive racist material!

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Originally Posted by Wales-Bales

You've just outed yourself as a bigoted far-right extremist who reads offensive racist material!

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You aren't as funny as you think you are.

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Originally Posted by Rjk

You aren't as funny as you think you are.

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It didn't take long for the thought police to show up.

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Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa

Seriously, who actually cares? Just don't say the words. If it's questionable, use something else. If you're black, you can't say that. If you're not gay, don't say any homophobic slurs. If you're not Jewish, don't say anti semitic stuff.

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From one sheep shagger to another, I have to say you are spot on :thumbup:

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Originally Posted by Wales-Bales

It didn't take long for the thought police to show up.

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People always say this as if they were against racism etc but they were pro racism and pro fascism. Encouraging racism, the only “thoughts” that were policed were anti government.

In the real world the thought police would be pro trump and pro “you can’t say anything these days” just like you, especially with the double speak of “you can’t say pronouns anymore “

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Originally Posted by Croesy Blue

People always say this as if they were against racism etc but they were pro racism and pro fascism. Encouraging racism, the only “thoughts” that were policed were anti government.

In the real world the thought police would be pro trump and pro “you can’t say anything these days” just like you, especially with the double speak of “you can’t say pronouns anymore “

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I'm there any need to start virtue signaling over a bit of light-hearted humour?

If you think posting the same old shite you post in every thread counts as humour no wonder you think that counts as virtue signalling :hehe:

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Originally Posted by Croesy Blue

If you think posting the same old shite you post in every thread counts as humour no wonder you think that counts as virtue signalling :hehe:

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Everything with you is either faux moral outrage or it's a conspiracy theory. There is no middle ground, you are a drama king.

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Originally Posted by Wales-Bales

It didn't take long for the thought police to show up.

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Eh? In what way was that thought police?

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Originally Posted by William Treseder

You’ve been brainwashed to follow the lemmings and accept the unacceptable.

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Here we go...

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Originally Posted by Wales-Bales

I'm there any need to start virtue signaling over a bit of light-hearted humour?

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Its nice to see the buzzword bingo has started

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Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa

Seriously, who actually cares? Just don't say the words. If it's questionable, use something else. If you're black, you can't say that. If you're not gay, don't say any homophobic slurs. If you're not Jewish, don't say anti semitic stuff.

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Hebrew speakers constitute 1% of Semites. The vast majority of Semites are Arabs who speak Arabic.

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Originally Posted by City123

Its nice to see the buzzword bingo has started

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:hehe:

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Originally Posted by Organ Morgan.

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Hebrew speakers constitute 1% of Semites. The vast majority of Semites are Arabs who speak Arabic.

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Even though Arabs and Jews can be Semites, the term anti-Semitic refers specifically to Jewish people.

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Originally Posted by City123

Here we go...

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Where are we going? Is it a mystery trip ?

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Originally Posted by Wales-Bales

Everything with you is either faux moral outrage or it's a conspiracy theory. There is no middle ground, you are a drama king.

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There's no moral outrage or virtue signalling here, you've posted absolute shit on the first page and don't like it pointed out.

Then you've posted rubbish again on this page and don't like that it was pointed out.

It's why debating you doesn't work, as soon as someone highlights what absolute shite you chat you start shouting your buzzwords.

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Originally Posted by Croesy Blue

Do people go through life wanting to be offensive to people? I never get what's so hard about this and why a lot of people find it so outrageous they can't say offensive things to people with no consequences.

I wouldn't call someone fat or ugly and if I did I'd expect consequences.

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Were there any consequences when you said that I must have mental health issues and paranoia? and that I'm ruining this forum? I doubt it, there are many ways to make people feel like shit about themselves. :thumbup:

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Originally Posted by Mrs Steve R

Were there any consequences when you said that I must have mental health issues and paranoia? and that I'm ruining this forum? I doubt it, there are many ways to make people feel like shit about themselves. :thumbup:

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Yes you calling me out on it now is the consequence of it. I shouldn't have said it you're right there are many ways to make people feel shit about themselves and I've definitely tried to stop saying anything personally negative about anyone.

But that doesn't mean you let someone present batshit mental points without pointing out that the points are completely mad.

By the way I don't think I actually ever exaclty said you had "mental heath issues and paranoia":hehe:

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Originally Posted by Croesy Blue

Yes you calling me out on it now is the consequence of it. I shouldn't have said it you're right there are many ways to make people feel shit about themselves and I've definitely tried to stop saying anything personally negative about anyone.

But that doesn't mean you let someone present batshit mental points without pointing out that the points are completely mad.

By the way I don't think I actually ever exaclty said you had "mental heath issues and paranoia":hehe:

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Does that mean ‘sorry’?

I don't think I've ever said anything offensive to MrsR but if anything I've said has ever been bad or upset her I definitely apologise for it.

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Originally Posted by Croesy Blue

Yes you calling me out on it now is the consequence of it. I shouldn't have said it you're right there are many ways to make people feel shit about themselves and I've definitely tried to stop saying anything personally negative about anyone.

But that doesn't mean you let someone present batshit mental points without pointing out that the points are completely mad.

By the way I don't think I actually ever exaclty said you had "mental heath issues and paranoia":hehe:

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You did but it does not matter now, I was just making a point. :hehe:

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Originally Posted by StraightOuttaCanton

Does that mean ‘sorry’?

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:hehe:

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Originally Posted by Croesy Blue

I don't think I've ever said anything offensive to MrsR but if anything I've said has ever been bad or upset her I definitely apologise for it.

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Accepted, water under the bridge now. :thumbup:

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Originally Posted by Mrs Steve R

Accepted, water under the bridge now. :thumbup:

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Hang on now, this is the internet, you can't be doing mature apologies and apology acceptance and all that. Call him a c**t or something, or tell him to get a life

I'm sorry, is this the right room for an argument (great sketch !)

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Originally Posted by Moodybluebird

I'm sorry, is this the right room for an argument (great sketch !)

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No it isn't

Yes it is

that's not arguing. You're just contradicting me.

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Originally Posted by delmbox

Hang on now, this is the internet, you can't be doing mature apologies and apology acceptance and all that. Call him a c**t or something, or tell him to get a life

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:hehe: Not my style delmbox.

Hope you're well btw. :thumbup:

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Originally Posted by Mrs Steve R

:hehe: Not my style delmbox.

Hope you're well btw. :thumbup:

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:hehe: all good ta! :thumbup:

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Originally Posted by Rjk

If I said the "new girl in work is an oriental" then that does seem a little ignorant and offensive. By no means as obliquely offensive as some things, but certainly not something I would say, it just doesn't seem right.

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If you said the " the new girl in work is oriental", or substituted the word 'oriental' for Asian, why would that be a little ignorant or offensive?

If someone in Africa, Asia or any other continent , said the "the new girl in work is European", would that be considered a little ignorant and offensive?