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Re: #Equal Play Equal Pay
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Originally Posted by
Wales-Bales
They want more prize money .. a lot more!
That's not what the campaign is about though, it's about wanting equald wages because they play the same amount of games and bring in more revenue. Do you think that's fair?
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Re: #Equal Play Equal Pay
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Originally Posted by
Croesy Blue
That's not what the campaign is about though, it's about wanting equald wages because they play the same amount of games and bring in more revenue. Do you think that's fair?
The US coach said they want more prize money!
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Re: #Equal Play Equal Pay
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Originally Posted by
Wales-Bales
They want more prize money .. a lot more!
Let's say it did only relate to the win bonus, Fifa couldn't possibly afford to increase the prize money and help grow the women's game and make it self suffficient after 10s of years of it being held back.
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Infantino acknowledged that FIFA currently has vast cash reserves, more than $2.7 billion: “We don’t need all this money in the Swiss banks,” he said. “The Swiss banks have enough money.”
Would it make sense for the governing body of world football to increase prize money and investment into the womens' game after it's proven to be quite popular?
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Re: #Equal Play Equal Pay
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Originally Posted by
Wales-Bales
The US coach said they want more prize money!
And they do because the women don't get anywhere near the same percentage of revenue generated that the men do.
But the equal pay campaign has been going on for over a year and is based on the wages of the USWNT. why don't you just answer the question?
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Originally Posted by
Croesy Blue
it's about wanting equald wages because they play the same amount of games and bring in more revenue. Do you think that's fair?
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Re: #Equal Play Equal Pay
Wales-bales why are you against the prize money for the women's world cup being increased?
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Re: #Equal Play Equal Pay
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Originally Posted by
Croesy Blue
why don't you just answer the question?
Because he can't.
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Re: #Equal Play Equal Pay
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Originally Posted by
Croesy Blue
Would it make sense for the governing body of world football to increase prize money and investment into the womens' game after it's proven to be quite popular?
FIFA should be disbanded cos they are corrupt, and men's and women's football should be run separately so that they can both maximise their own potential.
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Re: #Equal Play Equal Pay
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Originally Posted by
Wales-Bales
FIFA should be disbanded cos they are corrupt, and men's and women's football should be run separately so that they can both maximise their own potential.
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Fair play, that made me laugh.
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Re: #Equal Play Equal Pay
Just to reiterrate even though prize money was mentioned after they won the world cup the real issue is the wages paid to both of the US teams:
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Breaking...statement from spokesperson for @USWNT players involved in equal pay lawsuit v @ussoccer: “At this moment of tremendous pride for America, the sad equation remains all too clear, and Americans won’t stand for it anymore These athletes generate more revenue and garner higher tv ratings but get paid less simply because they are women. It is time for the Federation to correct this disparity once and for all.
I'll ask again is this fair?
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Re: #Equal Play Equal Pay
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Originally Posted by
Croesy Blue
Wales-bales why are you against the prize money for the women's world cup being increased?
It's simple economics, they don't produce enough revenue to receive parity with the men's game.
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Re: #Equal Play Equal Pay
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Originally Posted by
Croesy Blue
Just to reiterrate even though prize money was mentioned after they won the world cup the real issue is the wages paid to both of the US teams:
I'll ask again is this fair?
Like I said split them into two and let each look after their own interests, and then they can pay them according to revenue.
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Re: #Equal Play Equal Pay
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Originally Posted by
Wales-Bales
It's simple economics, they don't produce enough revenue to receive parity with the men's game.
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Originally Posted by Croesy Blue
The Wall Street Journal reports that from 2016 to 2018, U.S. women's games generated about $50.8 million in revenue, compared with $49.9 million for men's games.
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Re: #Equal Play Equal Pay
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Originally Posted by
Pedro de la Rosa
:hehe::hehe::hehe::hehe::hehe::hehe::hehe::hehe::h ehe::hehe::hehe::hehe::hehe::hehe::hehe::hehe::heh e:
Fair play, that made me laugh.
That's how I would run a business, they are separate entities with different long-term objectives.
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Re: #Equal Play Equal Pay
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Originally Posted by
Wales-Bales
It's simple economics, they don't produce enough revenue to receive parity with the men's game.
They don’t want parity on prize money though, they want it to be increased because they’re getting a much smaller cut of the revenue generated.
They want parity on wages because they earn more revenue than the men’s team.
What’s wrong with either of those things?
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Re: #Equal Play Equal Pay
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Originally Posted by
Pedro de la Rosa
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I'm talking about the $440 million prize money.
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Re: #Equal Play Equal Pay
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Originally Posted by
Croesy Blue
They don’t want parity on prize money though, they want it to be increased because they’re getting a much smaller cut of the revenue generated.
They want parity on wages because they earn more revenue than the men’s team.
What’s wrong with either of those things?
They get a bigger % of the revenue than the men do.
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Re: #Equal Play Equal Pay
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Originally Posted by
Wales-Bales
That's how I would run a business, they are separate entities with different long-term objectives.
Reading this thread you’d struggle to run a bath. You’ve tied yourself in knots furiously arguing against something you’ve got literally no idea about.
Why do you even care so much about this to have such a strong opinion on it?
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Re: #Equal Play Equal Pay
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Originally Posted by
rudy gestede
Reading this thread you’d struggle to run a bath. You’ve tied yourself in knots furiously arguing against something you’ve got literally no idea about.
Why do you even care so much about this to have such a strong opinion on it?
Because it's WB. And sadly he's sucked me in.
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Re: #Equal Play Equal Pay
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Originally Posted by
rudy gestede
Reading this thread you’d struggle to run a bath. You’ve tied yourself in knots furiously arguing against something you’ve got literally no idea about.
Why do you even care so much about this to have such a strong opinion on it?
The solution is simple, if the women aren't happy they should break-away and run their own affairs.
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Re: #Equal Play Equal Pay
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Originally Posted by
Wales-Bales
They get a bigger % of the revenue than the men do.
In terms of prize money they do not. Prize money was only mentioned in passing anyway.
The real issue is the USWNT want parity with the men because they generate more revenue, is that bad?
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Re: #Equal Play Equal Pay
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Originally Posted by
Wales-Bales
The solution is simple, if the women aren't happy they should break-away and run their own affairs.
Why?
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Re: #Equal Play Equal Pay
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Originally Posted by
Pedro de la Rosa
Because it's WB. And sadly he's sucked me in.
I'm not the one who is moaning about wanting more money. You always focus on other people instead of the subject under discussion :biggrin:
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Re: #Equal Play Equal Pay
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Originally Posted by
rudy gestede
Why?
Because they have different objectives.
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Re: #Equal Play Equal Pay
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Originally Posted by
Wales-Bales
I'm not the one who is moaning about wanting more money. You always focus on other people instead of the subject under discussion :biggrin:
WB, for the love of all things holy, I have explained that the US women generate more money than the men. I have rammed this fact down your throat. You have willfully ignored it to spout other shite. The US women want to be paid the same as the men. If anything, they should be paid more, at least by your logic. Please, just stop.
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Re: #Equal Play Equal Pay
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Originally Posted by
Wales-Bales
I'm not the one who is moaning about wanting more money. You always focus on other people instead of the subject under discussion :biggrin:
Why do you not want them to have more money?
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Re: #Equal Play Equal Pay
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Originally Posted by
Wales-Bales
Because they have different objectives.
They both seem to want to play football and make a living from it don’t they?
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Re: #Equal Play Equal Pay
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Originally Posted by
Pedro de la Rosa
WB, for the love of all things holy, I have explained that the US women generate more money than the men. I have rammed this fact down your throat. You have willfully ignored it to spout other shite. The US women want to be paid the same as the men. If anything, they should be paid more, at least by your logic. Please, just stop.
I'm talking primarily about the world cup, so in the long rung the women are better off going it alone. The US is only one country, what about the rest of the players? They should develop the woman's game separately, and not be restricted by FIFA.
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Re: #Equal Play Equal Pay
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Originally Posted by
rudy gestede
They both seem to want to play football and make a living from it don’t they?
So do models, but the men get paid 75% less.
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Re: #Equal Play Equal Pay
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Originally Posted by
Wales-Bales
So do models, but the men get paid 75% less.
They should try and close the pay gap then.
What’s their pay got to do with prize money though?
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Re: #Equal Play Equal Pay
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Originally Posted by
rudy gestede
They should try and close the pay gap then.
What’s their pay got to do with prize money though?
Woman's fashion generates more money, so the female models get paid more. It's simple economics.
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Re: #Equal Play Equal Pay
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Originally Posted by
Wales-Bales
So do models, but the men get paid 75% less.
The USWNT brings in more revenue than the men's team they should get equal pay.
Do male models bring in as much revenue as female models?
Not sure what that has got to do with prize money though?
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Re: #Equal Play Equal Pay
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Originally Posted by
Wales-Bales
Woman's fashion generates more money, so the female models get paid more.
So you agree the USA women’s team should get equal ( or more!) pay to the men’s team then?
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Re: #Equal Play Equal Pay
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Originally Posted by
rudy gestede
So you agree the USA women’s team should get equal ( or more!) pay to the men’s team then?
What about the female players in other countries?
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Re: #Equal Play Equal Pay
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Originally Posted by
Wales-Bales
What about the female players in other countries?
Who's talking about them? As long as they're fairly paid and happy that they're fairly paid I don't see a problem.
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Re: #Equal Play Equal Pay
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Originally Posted by
Wales-Bales
What about the female players in other countries?
Why haven’t you answered the question?
So you agree the USA women’s team should get equal ( or more!) pay to the men’s team then?
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Re: #Equal Play Equal Pay
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Originally Posted by
Croesy Blue
Who's talking about them? As long as they're fairly paid and happy that they're fairly paid I don't see a problem.
It's a bit wierd only wanting one team to recieve equal pay. That's not the best way to develop women's football is it.
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Re: #Equal Play Equal Pay
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Originally Posted by
rudy gestede
Why haven’t you answered the question?
So you agree the USA women’s team should get equal ( or more!) pay to the men’s team then?
It's not important in the grand scheme of things (unless you are dating one of them!)
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Re: #Equal Play Equal Pay
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Originally Posted by
Wales-Bales
It's a bit wierd only wanting one team to recieve equal pay. That's not the best way to develop women's football is it.
It's wanting one team to recieve fair wages based on the income they generate. What's weird about that?
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Re: #Equal Play Equal Pay
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Originally Posted by
Wales-Bales
It's not important in the grand scheme of things (unless you are dating one of them!)
Why start a thread about and take such a strong counter point for 3 pages it if it isn’t important?