I'm all ears, please tell us something that is even remotely close to the truth, i.e. no more made-up stuff! :biggrin:
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I learned from the way you imperiously swatted away what I thought was a pertinent question I had asked yesterday with an answer which doesn't really stand up to any close examination (I note gluey has mastered this technique as well), but I know full well that I could never hope to make it into the I know everything about everything club, so I'm going to need more guidance from you I'm afraid.
If you know that a subliminal message has been sent to us. then to be able to avoid falling prey to it, you must know what it said and when it was sent, so could you let us have that information please so that we can try to regain our capacity for "independent thinking"?
Speaking for myself, I've despised Donald Trump for thirty years or more, so I assume I received the subliminal message sometime in the mid to late eighties? Hang on though, why would the forces you are so nobly fighting on our behalf be sending out such a message about Donald Trump then? Unless, of course, they knew he was going to be President in thirty years time.
I've got to say mind, that's pretty impressive if they did isn't it - you don't think our subliminal voices might be worth listening to after all do you?
This requires a more detailed answer than I've got the time or willpower for right now. I'll try and post something later about brainwashing techniques, but in the mean time there are a couple of things you seem to have misunderstood.
Those who have used these techniques are certainly neither noble nor on your side. Also, it pretty obviously doesn't mean that subliminal messages are the sole source of a particular opinion such as your apparent personal dislike of Donald Trump. I'd say that 30 years ago few people would have expected him to have opposed those who follow a sinister agenda.
It's also possible for individuals to willingly follow this sinister agenda, but that requires a hatred of humanity which I'm sure not many people really have.
Of course it's hardly as simple as one single subliminal message during a cornflakes advert or something. It involves a long process which I mentioned briefly elsewhere on these threads.
Once someone is effected it's too late to change in most cases, as we learned in the 1950's with pow's from the Korean War who'd been repatriated, so some people can't "avoid falling prey" to it unfortunately.
Nope, I need more help here because, I'm sorry, but that just comes across, like so many of your messages do to this particular sheep, as a load of words without anything of note actually being said.
As for noble and on my side, you seem unable to take a compliment because I was talking about you - although I may have been being sarcastic at the time.
I'll try again, what did the subliminal message that I asked about say and when did it occur? You must know the answers to these questions because it didn't effect you.
I don't think it could have been, because I could have sworn I saw it as clear as day on here, but perhaps the messages Lardy posted about the Trump family exploiting that baby whose parents were killed at El Paso were the sort of subliminal message you're talking about because, as I recall, none of the I know everything about everything brigade had anything to say about them whatsoever.
Nobility is another question, but I'm certainly on your side , Bob.
I did explain in another post that it's very hard to brainwash certain groups of people, and one of these groups is those who understand the process and can therefore recognise the steps in it. I set these steps out much more fully than I'd ordinarily do here recently, although that itself was an over simplification of what is a complicated business. I repeat that it's far from one simple subliminal message during a commercial break.
I don't think I read the particular posting by Lardy which you mention, although I did post myself in that thread about the objective logic of gun control and it's detrimental consequences if adopted.
This whole thing about Trump as a person is symptomatic of what I'm trying to explain actually. You don't have to love him or think he's a perfect human being to know that what he's trying to achieve is to the benefit of humanity. Conversely, if you disagree with his politics you don't have to hate him or obsess about every tiny thing he does which you might be able to critisise.
As I said earlier, I'll try and post something later on the subject which might make it clearer without my having to try and set down 50 years of reading, study and experience in a message board thread.
Is it Trump's fault that he can't live up to the very high standards in office set by the Bush, Clinton & Obama families? Just remember there were zero instances of any wrongdoing under 44, which may be a world record of innocence.
Post away Lardy , fill the spaces I do really enjoy these moments , In fact its very therapeutic, my doctor advised me to buy a puncbag ,to help with my anger , I find this board and its contributors much more helpful in dealing with one's anger . ( as Mr Lydon famously advised 'anger is an energy ')
Bad energy though.
I'm never sure whether I'm angry or just sad about some of the stuff some people say here.
It seems like three people have missed the point.
Lifeonmars said
One of the faults of the Politcs board is it's lack of alternative views , however disagreeable or alternative it maybe to your view.
The three I mentioned post far more than anyone else and are also proud of their non mainstream views. So what are the alternative views that are lacking?
I think he was alluding to the fact that non mainstream views attract hostility and ,despite what you say there ,are certainly in the minority
To be fair, you do spread your propaganda output over two message boards, and just to let you know I will be popping over there to challenge your assumptions when "The Storm" proper arrives. I may invite RonnieBird & life on mars to join me, so that we can enlighten your fellow posters on the other side about your avoidance of reality :thumbup: