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Re: After much thought, I conclude that Glatzel is simply not up to it
Hasn’t had enough chances to decide. Spends most of his time chasing lost causes from the midfield
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Re: After much thought, I conclude that Glatzel is simply not up to it
Given him enough time now.
I wanted him to be great.
Unfortunately he's not.
Ward to start next, I know he needs someone to play off. Two up front?
I don't know, but Ward showed today, that he is good in the air and on the ground, and clinical.
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Re: After much thought, I conclude that Glatzel is simply not up to it
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Originally Posted by
barrybloo
Given him enough time now.
I wanted him to be great.
Unfortunately he's not.
Ward to start next, I know he needs someone to play off. Two up front?
I don't know, but Ward showed today, that he is good in the air and on the ground, and clinical.
Can’t argue with that at all. Football is all about the present and at the present time Ward is doing it, he has to start no doubt.
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Re: After much thought, I conclude that Glatzel is simply not up to it
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Originally Posted by
barrybloo
Given him enough time now.
I wanted him to be great.
Unfortunately he's not.
Ward to start next, I know he needs someone to play off. Two up front?
I don't know, but Ward showed today, that he is good in the air and on the ground, and clinical.
Ward has earned his start.
He'll also be cock a hoop.
Glatzel impact player off the bench?
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Re: After much thought, I conclude that Glatzel is simply not up to it
I was really hoping Glatzel would come good like all of us were hoping. However, what are his strengths exactly? He's not particularly fast, so he can't lose his marker with pace; he's not t-h-a-t strong either; doesn't possess a great shot and his heading... :shrug:
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Re: After much thought, I conclude that Glatzel is simply not up to it
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Originally Posted by
MacAdder
Ward has earned his start.
He'll also be cock a hoop.
Hard to disagree with that - 'cept Ward usually gets injured after a coupla games and is out for months.
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Re: After much thought, I conclude that Glatzel is simply not up to it
I wanted him to do well but we're almost a quarter of the way through the season and he isn't really pulling up trees to be honest.
He looks a decent player when we're hitting the byline and putting over decent crosses. Something we very rarely do.
He also looks decent with the inter linking play and think a lot of chances would come his way with another striker or support of another form. Again, it is something we rarely do.
My worry is that with Ward being the impact sub at the moment a lot of what he does will be lost starting against fresh defenders who are as fresh as he is. I think impact sub seems to suit him very well.
All that said I think he deserves a start given his recent goals whether it be alongside Glatzel or as the lone striker. If he is employed as a lone striker though I fear we might see the same from what we have seen from virtually every striker we've played while Warnock has been in charge, a lot of bluster and effort with very little by way of regular goals due to having to beat 4 defenders plus with no support and receiving the ball with their back to goal 10 yards outside the box.
For those questioning whether Zohore would have scored more, did you actually see the lad play the last few seasons? He's not getting bit parts for West Brom (and not even making it on some games) because he is much better than Glatzel.
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Re: After much thought, I conclude that Glatzel is simply not up to it
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Originally Posted by
Tall Midget
Hard to disagree with that - 'cept Ward usually gets injured after a coupla games and is out for months.
Yes. Some people do offer more coming off the bench than if they were to start. Junior Hoilett seems to be one of those lately.
I do think though that ward should be given his chance though and told he has an hour.
Maybe Glatzel might benefit from a delayed introduction.
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Re: After much thought, I conclude that Glatzel is simply not up to it
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Originally Posted by
blue lewj
I wanted him to do well but we're almost a quarter of the way through the season and he isn't really pulling up trees to be honest.
He looks a decent player when we're hitting the byline and putting over decent crosses. Something we very rarely do.
He also looks decent with the inter linking play and think a lot of chances would come his way with another striker or support of another form. Again, it is something we rarely do.
My worry is that with Ward being the impact sub at the moment a lot of what he does will be lost starting against fresh defenders who are as fresh as he is. I think impact sub seems to suit him very well.
All that said I think he deserves a start given his recent goals whether it be alongside Glatzel or as the lone striker. If he is employed as a lone striker though I fear we might see the same from what we have seen from virtually every striker we've played while Warnock has been in charge, a lot of bluster and effort with very little by way of regular goals due to having to beat 4 defenders plus with no support and receiving the ball with their back to goal 10 yards outside the box.
For those questioning whether Zohore would have scored more, did you actually see the lad play the last few seasons? He's not getting bit parts for West Brom (and not even making it on some games) because he is much better than Glatzel.
Can't argue with any of that. The highlighted part is what you and I and nearly every City fan can see, so why doesn't Warnock and his assistants do something about it? Incredibly frustrating!
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Re: After much thought, I conclude that Glatzel is simply not up to it
Leaving individuals aside for now, we aren't going to play two strikers, two wingers and a back four - something would have to give to get two strikers into the team. I've always believed the easiest way for us to do that is to play with three central defenders and wing backs, because then you can have three central midfielders as well.
What it would mean though is that Neil Warnock would have to shelve something that seems to be cast in stone with him - that two wingers have to be in the team with a couple of full backs behind them. It would probably mean no place in the team as a wing back for Lee Peltier, but I wonder if central defence might be his best position anyway now as he moves towards his mid thirties. Possible wing backs for us would include Patterson, Whyte and Coxe as well as Bennett and, maybe, Bacuna - it could be done and, with us leaking so many goals away from home, maybe it should be.
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Re: After much thought, I conclude that Glatzel is simply not up to it
In fairness to him I think he was onside for the goal that was disallowed against West Brom.
I think he was marginally onside and Morrison being very tight behind him may have forced the linesman/assistants hand a little.
It seems silly to mention it too but I think our hi viz kit has worked against us a bit. Has the linesman looked across and seen our almost luminous shirts ahead of the defender as the ball is played and automatically raised the flag. I think the goal would have been given with VAR (although I hate it).
It doesn't change much of what is said above but 3 goals in very recent times would change the viewpoint of fans a little.
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Re: After much thought, I conclude that Glatzel is simply not up to it
Has anybody got a link to his miss?
I've not seen it on the club short highlights or the Quest highlights?
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Re: After much thought, I conclude that Glatzel is simply not up to it
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Originally Posted by
the other bob wilson
Leaving individuals aside for now, we aren't going to play two strikers, two wingers and a back four - something would have to give to get two strikers into the team. I've always believed the easiest way for us to do that is to play with three central defenders and wing backs, because then you can have three central midfielders as well.
What it would mean though is that Neil Warnock would have to shelve something that seems to be cast in stone with him - that two wingers have to be in the team with a couple of full backs behind them. It would probably mean no place in the team as a wing back for Lee Peltier, but I wonder if central defence might be his best position anyway now as he moves towards his mid thirties. Possible wing backs for us would include Patterson, Whyte and Coxe as well as Bennett and, maybe, Bacuna - it could be done and, with us leaking so many goals away from home, maybe it should be.
It would also allow him to bring his favourite Bamba back into the side whilst not dropping either the captain or big money signing
It makes far too much sense for us to ever do it
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Re: After much thought, I conclude that Glatzel is simply not up to it
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City123
We flog him for 75 minutes and bring him off as soon as the game opens up
Absolutely this. I’ve seen him spend 90% of the time running around as our midfield are incapable of keeping possession of the ball
Our wingers (particularly Murphy) are so wasteful in attack and don’t just put the ball in the danger areas
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Re: After much thought, I conclude that Glatzel is simply not up to it
Be interesting to see the stats on the amount of chances he has to conversion rate.
He can't get many per game at all.
Was the header on Saturday that bad?
Ward's goals to chances ratio has to be one of the best in the league given the goals he has got for us late on.
I do stand by what I say though in that he will no be anywhere near as effective starting in a tighter game against fresher opposition.
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Re: After much thought, I conclude that Glatzel is simply not up to it
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Originally Posted by
City123
It would also allow him to bring his favourite Bamba back into the side whilst not dropping either the captain or big money signing
It makes far too much sense for us to ever do it
Team would be
Ward Glatzel
Ralls Pack Bacuna
Bennett Bamba Morrison Flint Peltier
Smithies/Etheridge
And yes, he'd definitely play Peltier :hehe:
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Re: After much thought, I conclude that Glatzel is simply not up to it
An onside goal given as offside changes a lot from how we look at him.
His heading isn’t very good though.
We don’t get enough crosses in for him.
He’s got **** all support.
How can you call someone who is charged with running around like a headless chicken and gets **** all help shit?
Prime Ibra would struggle with Warnock tactics.
Drop a CM, get another striker on and use the wingers as L/RM.
FOR **** SAKE Neil. Do SOMETHING.
