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Re: Washing Machine Repair
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Originally Posted by
Optimistic Nick
The thing is, sometimes even the trademen themselves don't really get it.
We had a bedroom carpet fitted a few years ago. I used a local company who sent out a fitter. I paid the company for the carpet, and £35 to the two fitters who came to put it down, arranged by the company. The fitters did a decent job and were tidy so I asked them if they did private work. They did. I ordered carpet for hall stairs and landing. Including the supply of the rods he quoted £55 to fit. I asked him how long it would take to do the hall stairs and landing. It would take two of them half a day, at least. I questioned why the cost wasn't more. He just said that's what he gets paid by the carpet companies so that's what he charges for private work.
Absolutely bonkers. £55 for a day's work?! I paid him £120. Still saved me a fortune as I could get hold of carpet and decent underlay a lot cheaper online, and he gets to earn a fair fee. He did admit afterwards that he was just starting out on private work and hadn't really thought about pricing much, but when I got him back in to quote a few years later for something else he did remember me and said he'd upped his charging and was still busy.
You had me in the first half I won’t lie, until I read £120!
I can’t think of a decent example, but let’s say a self employed labourer gets 10/11 quid an hour, have a quick look on indeed and there are plenty of them jobs offering 8.50 which would now offer holiday pay (accrued monthly with the shit agency and minimal pension contributions)
The extra you get for being self employed IS the extra that workers get, which was why I originally started commenting yesterday I think :hehe: god knows now.
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Originally Posted by
Rock_Flock_of_Five
Where is "local" exactly? Is the OP located in the Cardiff area or Elwood, London? If it's the latter, then it might be a bit of a stab in the dark asking on here.
At least there will be no shortage of messages regarding electrical advice......
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Re: Washing Machine Repair
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Originally Posted by
Optimistic Nick
The thing is, sometimes even the trademen themselves don't really get it.
We had a bedroom carpet fitted a few years ago. I used a local company who sent out a fitter. I paid the company for the carpet, and £35 to the two fitters who came to put it down, arranged by the company. The fitters did a decent job and were tidy so I asked them if they did private work. They did. I ordered carpet for hall stairs and landing. Including the supply of the rods he quoted £55 to fit. I asked him how long it would take to do the hall stairs and landing. It would take two of them half a day, at least. I questioned why the cost wasn't more. He just said that's what he gets paid by the carpet companies so that's what he charges for private work.
Absolutely bonkers. £55 for a day's work?! I paid him £120. Still saved me a fortune as I could get hold of carpet and decent underlay a lot cheaper online, and he gets to earn a fair fee. He did admit afterwards that he was just starting out on private work and hadn't really thought about pricing much, but when I got him back in to quote a few years later for something else he did remember me and said he'd upped his charging and was still busy.
that is the problem, people just starting out, they feel they have to price low to get work
I see it all the time, people starting out in whatever business, as people know i am a ex-carpenter / foreman / site agent who now earns maybe 60% of my income from window cleaning ( i still project manage building jobs for people )
2 recent examples
window cleaning, a company quote for a job to do, they ask the company how much i charge, Company boss decides to have a bit of a laugh, the job is £450, he tell them " £150 ", they come back to him with a £120 quote :hehe: 120 quid, it takes me a day and a bit, maybe 10 hours, so this company are happy with £12 a hour, its just not enough, but could well have driven the price down so much that it wasnt worth doing
Building, someone i know has started out doing groundwork and landscape gardening, i had a job that needed a patio doing after a extension was built, guy says " if you buy the materials I will charge you day rates , now i was expecting £200 - £250 a day for him and his labourer, Nope £150 a day, i told him he needs to charge more, his response was " oh i used to earn £100 a day working for someone, so I am happy with that and £50 for the lad ", i then explained holiday pay, days when you cannot work, ill or rain, fuel and van costs, tool costs, the guy still invoiced me for £150 a day
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Originally Posted by
blue matt
that is the problem, people just starting out, they feel they have to price low to get work
I see it all the time, people starting out in whatever business, as people know i am a ex-carpenter / foreman / site agent who now earns maybe 60% of my income from window cleaning ( i still project manage building jobs for people )
2 recent examples
window cleaning, a company quote for a job to do, they ask the company how much i charge, Company boss decides to have a bit of a laugh, the job is £450, he tell them " £150 ", they come back to him with a £120 quote :hehe: 120 quid, it takes me a day and a bit, maybe 10 hours, so this company are happy with £12 a hour, its just not enough, but could well have driven the price down so much that it wasnt worth doing
Building, someone i know has started out doing groundwork and landscape gardening, i had a job that needed a patio doing after a extension was built, guy says " if you buy the materials I will charge you day rates , now i was expecting £200 - £250 a day for him and his labourer, Nope £150 a day, i told him he needs to charge more, his response was " oh i used to earn £100 a day working for someone, so I am happy with that and £50 for the lad ", i then explained holiday pay, days when you cannot work, ill or rain, fuel and van costs, tool costs, the guy still invoiced me for £150 a day
The lad on 50 probably signs on and gets cash.
No way can someone earn £250 (max) a week and be paying tax.
Also, as shit as it is 100 a day is 80 after tax and 400 a week on a 5 day week.
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indeed, i bet you are right about the lad
but £400 isnt enough for a SE'ed person to earn a week imho, his fuel and van costs might cost him £50, then add tools and time off, its just not enough
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Originally Posted by
blue matt
indeed, i bet you are right about the lad
but £400 isnt enough for a SE'ed person to earn a week imho, his fuel and van costs might cost him £50, then add tools and time off, its just not enough
Fu*k sake. You’ll be grassing the lad up soon 😁
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Originally Posted by
Rock_Flock_of_Five
Where is "local" exactly? Is the OP located in the Cardiff area or Elwood, London? If it's the latter, then it might be a bit of a stab in the dark asking on here.
Where's Elwood in London then ?
There's an Elwood Street in Islington I think.
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Originally Posted by
RonnieBird
Where's Elwood in London then ?
There's an Elwood Street in Islington I think.
You're right. I mistakenly thought it was a suburb of London. It isn't, it's a street, as you mentioned. :thumbup:
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Originally Posted by
Tuerto
I'm in birchgrove, i don't mind popping up after work to do it for you if I don't mind helping out a fellow city fan. Didn't realise that you had problems with your knees. Let me know, dan.
Don’t charge a bit more than expected or it’ll be you having trouble with your knees, trying to get up after an hour or two on them begging:hide:
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Originally Posted by
William Treseder
Fu*k sake. You’ll be grassing the lad up soon
honestly doesnt bother me, i can safely say i have worked with a few who worked cash in hand, i bet a few have worked on jobs i have been running
No drama for me with them :thumbup:
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Originally Posted by
blue matt
indeed, i bet you are right about the lad
but £400 isnt enough for a SE'ed person to earn a week imho, his fuel and van costs might cost him £50, then add tools and time off, its just not enough
Agreed, I did say something along the lines of it not being great my point was it wasn’t terrible as such.
Maybe he was off the books too..
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Originally Posted by
Tuerto
I'm in birchgrove, i don't mind popping up after work to do it for you if I don't mind helping out a fellow city fan. Didn't realise that you had problems with your knees. Let me know, dan.
Sorry only just seen this.
Thanks for the offer much appreciated
I'd forgotten my Bosch warrant was two years. Thought I'd better get it done with them in that case, but still expected I would have to pay because I though they would regard a stuck and probably blocked filter as my fault.
However they say there will be no charge.
Only downside is that they can't come until next Monday 21st.
Couple of launderette trips this week then.
Thats the machine sorted.
Now when can you fix my knees...........!
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Originally Posted by
Elwood Blues
Sorry only just seen this.
Thanks for the offer much appreciated
I'd forgotten my Bosch warrant was two years. Thought I'd better get it done with them in that case, but still expected I would have to pay because I though they would regard a stuck and probably blocked filter as my fault.
However they say there will be no charge.
Only downside is that they can't come until next Monday 21st.
Couple of launderette trips this week then.
Thats the machine sorted.
Now when can you fix my knees...........!
Worked out well then. I'll apologise for my initial response, was a bit curt. As for the knees? I've got a hammer, bolster and a tube of Mastic in the van-i'm up for it if you are :hehe:
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Originally Posted by
splott parker
Don’t charge a bit more than expected or it’ll be you having trouble with your knees, trying to get up after an hour or two on them begging:hide:
Don't start :hehe:I can tell you've worked in the building game, the bitterness is squeezing through my keyboard :hehe:
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Originally Posted by
Tuerto
Don't start :hehe:I can tell you've worked in the building game, the bitterness is squeezing through my keyboard :hehe:
Still battling on in the game, although I may have to miss a few days soon, I’m running out of dry clothes!!! Worst spell of rain that I can remember, I’m toying with the idea of getting permanent indoor work.............................................. .....something along the lines of a washing machine repair man:facepalm::hehe:
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Originally Posted by
Taunton Blue Genie
Wow. A City fan that does knee replacements on home visits.
Brilliant :hehe:
Also, nice one Tuerto, nice to see a bit of kindness on here
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Originally Posted by
splott parker
Still battling on in the game, although I may have to miss a few days soon, I’m running out of dry clothes!!! Worst spell of rain that I can remember, I’m toying with the idea of getting permanent indoor work.............................................. .....something along the lines of a washing machine repair man:facepalm::hehe:
I remember doing a fine down detached house summer 2012, it rained every other day for two months, job took forever.
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Originally Posted by
Tuerto
I remember doing a fine down detached house summer 2012, it rained every other day for two months, job took forever.
And we come the full circle........good job you never charged £99:hehe:
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Originally Posted by
Taunton Blue Genie
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I agree. :hehe:
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Originally Posted by
splott parker
And we come the full circle........good job you never charged £99:hehe:
Are you a wet trade? I'm a Plasterer so i'm lucky in respect that i can work inside, i feel sorry for brickies. The worst is when you make a call on the weather first thing and the bloody sun comes out at 11am!
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Originally Posted by
Tuerto
Are you a wet trade? I'm a Plasterer so i'm lucky in respect that i can work inside, i feel sorry for brickies. The worst is when you make a call on the weather first thing and the bloody sun comes out at 11am!
I have a extension on the go, 2 storey and complete rear of a house, end of last month they had to start to pay weekly for the scaffold, still just upto 1st floor lift, customer isnt happy
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Originally Posted by
blue matt
I have a extension on the go, 2 storey and complete rear of a house, end of last month they had to start to pay weekly for the scaffold, still just upto 1st floor lift, customer isnt happy
How long can you have the scaffold at a fixed price? is it 6 weeks?
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Originally Posted by
Tuerto
How long can you have the scaffold at a fixed price? is it 6 weeks?
6 or 8 weeks :thumbup: though i have in the past had it for 12 weeks on a fixed price
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Originally Posted by
blue matt
6 or 8 weeks :thumbup: though i have in the past had it for 12 weeks on a fixed price
There's scaffolding everywhere in NYC. It's not uncommon for it to be up for years. Some buildings have had it up for 10 years or more.
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First washing machines, now scaffolding.
Best thread ever.
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Originally Posted by
Optimistic Nick
First washing machines, now scaffolding.
Best thread ever.
I’m waiting for the fork lift to come into the equation to lift the washing machine to save his knees😂
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Originally Posted by
splott parker
I’m waiting for the fork lift to come into the equation to lift the washing machine to save his knees😂
Fork handles?
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Originally Posted by
Optimistic Nick
First washing machines, now scaffolding.
Best thread ever.
At least we haven"t mentioned Brexi......
Oops nearly!
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dembethewarrior
Fork handles?
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Talking of washing machines, what about that advert with the cross country runners in white t shirts, they get absolutely plastered in mud, bang ‘em in the machine & they come out sparkling. They’re 50p a t shirt in Primark for Christ’s sake, why bother? ...........I’ve been waiting to get this off my chest for weeks, very useful thread this👍
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Originally Posted by
splott parker
Talking of washing machines, what about that advert with the cross country runners in white t shirts, they get absolutely plastered in mud, bang ‘em in the machine & they come out sparkling. They’re 50p a t shirt in Primark for Christ’s sake, why bother? ...........I’ve been waiting to get this off my chest for weeks, very useful thread this👍
This thread could run and run (no pun intended!)
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Originally Posted by
Elwood Blues
This thread could run and run (no pun intended!)
A cup of vinegar in the rinse cycle should stop that - according to those fine folks on the interweb!
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Originally Posted by
splott parker
Talking of washing machines, what about that advert with the cross country runners in white t shirts, they get absolutely plastered in mud, bang ‘em in the machine & they come out sparkling. They’re 50p a t shirt in Primark for Christ’s sake, why bother? ...........I’ve been waiting to get this off my chest for weeks, very useful thread this👍
I've been watching washing powder adverts for over 40 years and each time they talk about the clothes being whiter than white.
My angst is that how many shades of white has each improvement gotten over the years? Surely at some point white can get no whiter and the powder we buy today isn't much different to how it was years ago.
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Originally Posted by
splott parker
Talking of washing machines, what about that advert with the cross country runners in white t shirts, they get absolutely plastered in mud, bang ‘em in the machine & they come out sparkling. They’re 50p a t shirt in Primark for Christ’s sake, why bother? ...........I’ve been waiting to get this off my chest for weeks, very useful thread this👍
We could now open up a tangent on the environmental cost of a throwaway society but I'd rather keep it on tangible subjects like the ones already discussed. So other alternative talking points raised by this post include: quality of discount sports gear in Aldi/Lidl; the horror of Primark; Danny baker adverts.
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Perhaps we should change the title of this thread to
'Washing machine repairs, life,the universe and everything'
Thats probably killed it now!
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Originally Posted by
Elwood Blues
Perhaps we should change the title of this thread to
'Washing machine repairs, life,the universe and everything'
Thats probably killed it now!
Ah ‘The Universe’, that brings back memories, the paper that my Mam bought every Sunday (along with ‘The Catholic Herald’) after mass.
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splott parker
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Ah ‘The Universe’, that brings back memories, the paper that my Mam bought every Sunday (along with ‘The Catholic Herald’) after mass.
And the NOVENA MAGAZINE
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splott parker
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Ah ‘The Universe’, that brings back memories, the paper that my Mam bought every Sunday (along with ‘The Catholic Herald’) after mass.
Our local RC church now called Christ the King used to be called Our Lady Queen of the Universe.
A tenuous link but a link nonetheless
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Elwood Blues
Our local RC church now called Christ the King used to be called Our Lady Queen of the Universe.
A tenuous link but a link nonetheless
And an excellent link in the chain of subjects in this thread:thumbup:
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Originally Posted by
Elwood Blues
Our local RC church now called Christ the King used to be called Our Lady Queen of the Universe.
A tenuous link but a link nonetheless
That's where my kids went to school, and my wife-what does all of this mean?