Re: 'Nigel Farage mocked for Brexit U-turn after saying he would rather accept delay than new deal'
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Originally Posted by
jon1959
In or out of membership of the EU certainly - but the whole referendum campaign was full of (from the Leave side), Norway, Switzerland, Canada, Canada plus, easiest new trade deal in the history of trade deals, and a thousand other variations on the terms of leaving and the future relationship with the EU.
It is only since the outcome of the referendum that politicians and press have read back into the result confident claims about what was in the minds of the electorate when they placed their cross, anointed 'no deal' as the purest form of Brexit, denounced most of the models that they were previously advocating as 'half in and half out' and pronounced that the will of the people (or 51.89% of them) is being subverted by Parliament defending its sovereignty, and holding an executive with a crap deal to account!
The clownshow is in the editorial offices of the press (on both sides of the argument), in the inner sanctum of the ERG Spartan club with their pathetic conversion to May Deal 2, in No 10, and amongst the usual frothing little-Englanders. The positions many people now hold have hardened massively in over 3 years and bear little relationship to what was said, believed and was possible in the immediate aftermath of the vote. The main culprit for that was Theresa May with her cloth ears, refusal to seek consensus, rigid red lines and determination to put party unity above national interest (however that is defined).
Your right and you can see the same red lines posted by Labour to ensure the result is forever frustrated and never delivered.
With regards to party unity one may argue only two parties have that , SNP and Liberals.
Labour's unity is as bad or as worse than the Tories .
Re: 'Nigel Farage mocked for Brexit U-turn after saying he would rather accept delay than new deal'
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Originally Posted by
Wales-Bales
Cameron was very clear that it was an in or out referendum, not a half-in or half-out subvert the will of the people clownshow.
And in the last three and a bit years the country has learned that what that man.says is often rubbish, for example reducing the thing that has managed to drag Britain down to its knees to a yes or no matter.
Re: 'Nigel Farage mocked for Brexit U-turn after saying he would rather accept delay than new deal'
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Originally Posted by
the other bob wilson
And in the last three and a bit years the country has learned that what that man.says is often rubbish, for example reducing the thing that has managed to drag Britain down to its knees to a yes or no matter.
On the basis that so.many people wanted to vote is that such a bad thing ?
It definitely fired up those who had never wanted to vote, and it allowed folk to have a view and break away from the usual party loyalty .