Aden Flint

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Originally Posted by jon1959

Good article from Wales Online (really!) about Flint and the defensive options Harris has to get right.

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/...ndrum-17308211

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I think it was clear from yesterday's performance that Harris wants the team to press higher up the pitch when we don't have the ball, but I'm not convinced it's a great idea with the players that are available to him.

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Originally Posted by NYCBlue

I'm making reference to the really weak point you made. Being: that despite the fact that Flint is shit and cost the club we all support up to six million pounds, it's somehow not as bad as some anonymous bloke on here having a few drinks and posting about it. Do you understand now?

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I just think it’s a bit sad to be making such an abusive post at any time, but on a Saturday night at 1am it’s just shite.

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

It wasn't a winger, it was a centre orward who was playing for Leyton Orient in the Conference last season. Flint has his limitations, but the point is that all of our defenders do this year - even Peltier, our best out and out defender, was skinned by the young substitute winger Charlton brought on in the closing minutes. Sorry for sounding like a stuck record with this, but our defence, particularly through the middle, is going.to struggle to contain the sort of forwards favoured by many Championship sides these days because they have slow reactions, large turning circles, are heavy legged and won't keep up with most of the players they have to mark in a foot race - we needed a Danny Gabbidon or Matt Connolly type centre back in the summer and signed Flint!

Nelson had his poorest league match so far for me and was, arguably, lucky to stay on the pitch after a kick on the player who beat him and Bennett for the first goal and, as mentioned earlier, our midfield was found out when it came to tracking runners - I agree, we need three central midfielders because we're going nowhere this season if we keep on conceding two goals per game on our travels.

As for Sol Bamba, I heard an interview with Simon Jordan last weekend when he talked about Neil Harris' appointment and he said he'd heard that there was an issue in the dressing room about players who are not prepared to accept that they cannot cut it at this level any more - no names were mentioned, but there are certain players that spring to mind reading that aren't there.

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As much as it would be nice to see Sol back I wouldn’t be surprised to see him follow Warnock wherever he ends up

As for the striker/winger thing.. easy mistake as he cut in from the wing.

I’ve got to admit I’m not always good at telling opposition players apart especially when I’ve not seen them before

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Originally Posted by rudy gestede

I just think it’s a bit sad to be making such an abusive post at any time, but on a Saturday night at 1am it’s just shite.

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You don't really care. There are posters that come on here (I'm guessing sober) day in, day out just to talk bollocks and wind people up. That's worse in my opinion. I may be wrong, but I believe Der Kaiser has been critical of Flint in the past. There's no law against having a few drinks and ranting on a messageboard. At least he was talking football.

Anyway, it's Flint's fault. It's probably all the goals we've conceded down to him that drove DK to booze in the first place.

I’ve said it in other threads that Flint should be played upfront!!!
He would be a great target man - in defence he is a liability and all on here have seen that.
He can’t pick a pass - he was at fault for the first goal yesterday by lashing the ball to Bacuna who had no way of controlling it 🙃
He turns slower than a barge and his all arms and legs style gives away too many free kicks.
Re- invent his position and throw him up front- can anyone name one striker on our books that should start every week???

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Originally Posted by rudy gestede

I just think it’s a bit sad to be making such an abusive post at any time, but on a Saturday night at 1am it’s just shite.

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If you're bothered by players getting called '****ing shit' or compared to Spencer Prior (that is out of order on my behalf), then I'm not really sure football, or any other sport is for you. Yes, I'd had a beverage, I'm not really sure Aden is actually going to read this post, but if he does you never know, maybe it will inspire a positive performance from him!

Sorry for hurting your feelings xox

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Originally Posted by Der Kaiser

I hope you are reading this Aden, I really do, someone needs to tell you that you are ****ing shit. Your are absolutely ****ing terrible, and you are living off one anomalous season at Bristol. You are potentially our worst ever signing for value, and that's saying something considering the players we've previously wasted money on over the years. You're a late candidate, but you are without a doubt this decade's Spencer Prior.

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Is that the Spencer Prior that has the rare distinction of not conceding a goal in an entire playoff campaign?

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Originally Posted by binman

He s costing us at least 1 goal per game.

He tried to carry the ball out of defence yesterday and fired it straight into Bacuna (I believe) at short range. they then broke on us and he tried to cover back like an asthmatic ant carrying some heavy bags of shopping.

what is the point of sending him up for set plays? The opposition know its going to punted/thrown long to im and he wins less than 75% of balls in the opposition box as its pretty easy to mark him - I'd think Ralls would win more in the air.

He's not as good as Spencer Prior or Rhys Weston for that matter. He is Jorn Schwinkendorf reincarnated - a walking calamity.

Nelson I thought did well to cover him in the circumstances yesterday but the sooner the giant redwood is out and we have our promotion winning captain put back in his place the better.

Its not rocket science. Our defence is shocking this season and there is one new factor in there - Flint

Get him out now!!

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Our defence was shocking last season too

He got pulled all over the place yesterday. Wether he was given instruction from Harris to go with the striker I do not know but at times both he and Nelson were 20 / 30 yards apart.

Id support the thought Flint has been our best centre half ,6 million buys bugger all these days .

Morrison has been a shadow of his former self.

If we want to criticise defenders look no further than the full backs .

Equally you need to view our defensive ability in midfield.

There are many area of our team that are poor, I guess Flint is an easy target , id say Bennett has committed just as many or maybe more errors.

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Originally Posted by Der Kaiser

If you're bothered by players getting called '****ing shit' or compared to Spencer Prior (that is out of order on my behalf), then I'm not really sure football, or any other sport is for you. Yes, I'd had a beverage, I'm not really sure Aden is actually going to read this post, but if he does you never know, maybe it will inspire a positive performance from him!

Sorry for hurting your feelings xox

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I just think it’s classless but carry on. Say players are shit by all means but that OP is a bit needless isn’t it. Like Flint is just another person at the end of the day, however bad you think he is at football.

I was at the match yesterday so I think football is for me. I just think acting like a big kid and abusing people on the internet because of their football ability isn’t for me.

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Originally Posted by Der Kaiser

I hope you are reading this Aden, I really do, someone needs to tell you that you are ****ing shit. Your are absolutely ****ing terrible, and you are living off one anomalous season at Bristol. You are potentially our worst ever signing for value, and that's saying something considering the players we've previously wasted money on over the years. You're a late candidate, but you are without a doubt this decade's Spencer Prior.

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Like do you think this is normal? A true football fan here :hehe:

He was often high up the pitch when they broke forward and struggled to get back. Why push that far up the pitch if you turn like a tank and run like a 95 year old woman.

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Originally Posted by dembethewarrior

He was often high up the pitch when they broke forward and struggled to get back. Why push that far up the pitch if you turn like a tank and run like a 95 year old woman.

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Because he was told to by the manager? Under NW we were usually happy to sit back and let the opposition have the ball in their own half. On Saturday we played with a higher defensive line and pressed Charlton higher up the pitch.

I thought on the ball he actually had an ok game at the weekend. The whole defence got caught out on a couple of occassions but I thought we looked much better.

The OP is a bizarre personal rant too, I can't see how people defend stuff like that. Football fans seem to think they can just abuse whoever they want however they want as long as it's related to football. The atmosphere at the Valley at the weekend was great but there are so many thick idiots calling our players fat and useless even when we are playing well. If this is how you enjoy football maybe I am missing something.

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Originally Posted by LeningradCowboy

Because he was told to by the manager? Under NW we were usually happy to sit back and let the opposition have the ball in their own half. On Saturday we played with a higher defensive line and pressed Charlton higher up the pitch.

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I get that, but he was taking the piss he seemed further forward than the other defenders for one.

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Originally Posted by dembethewarrior

He was often high up the pitch when they broke forward and struggled to get back. Why push that far up the pitch if you turn like a tank and run like a 95 year old woman.

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He was up there as he’s our biggest arial threat.

He got back as quickly, if not quicker than the rest of the players around him.
Shouldn’t the question be why the defenders who had stayed back couldn’t stop the Charlton players from scoring ?

Seems to me that he’s becoming a Hudson/ Morrison scapegoat

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Originally Posted by Croesy Blue

I thought on the ball he actually had an ok game at the weekend. The whole defence got caught out on a couple of occassions but I thought we looked much better.

The OP is a bizarre personal rant too, I can't see how people defend stuff like that. Football fans seem to think they can just abuse whoever they want however they want as long as it's related to football. The atmosphere at the Valley at the weekend was great but there are so many thick idiots calling our players fat and useless even when we are playing well. If this is how you enjoy football maybe I am missing something.

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Agree.
Surely there’s no need for this.

Seen similar regarding so many other players.
One week getting praise the next receiving disgusting abuse.

Beer shouldn’t be an excuse either.

I like to save my abuse for opposing teams rather than my own.

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Originally Posted by Lawnmower

He was up there as he’s our biggest arial threat.

He got back as quickly, if not quicker than the rest of the players around him.
Shouldn’t the question be why the defenders who had stayed back couldn’t stop the Charlton players from scoring ?

Seems to me that he’s becoming a Hudson/ Morrison scapegoat

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How do you know what incident I was talking about to say he got back quicker :hehe:

Are you DML in disguise?

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Originally Posted by dembethewarrior

How do you know what incident I was talking about to say he got back quicker :hehe:

Are you DML in disguise?

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The 2nd goal I presume, as that was the only incident where they scored from where he was caught upfield.

Anything else really isn’t relevant.

Your point about ‘why do we send him up’ was ridiculous either way

He created a fair bit of chaos from set pieces, one particularly nice header

Flint, you may wish to know is top of our assists charts with 3.

Not bad for a defender and good reason ( he’s also scored) to send him up at set pieces.

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Originally Posted by Lawnmower

The 2nd goal I presume, as that was the only incident where they scored from where he was caught upfield.

Anything else really isn’t relevant.

Your point about ‘why do we send him up’ was ridiculous either way

He created a fair bit of chaos from set pieces, one particularly nice header

Flint, you may wish to know is top of our assists charts with 3.

Not bad for a defender and good reason ( he’s also scored) to send him up at set pieces.

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Why isn’t it relevant? We won’t always get so lucky and not concede.

How is it ridiculous not to want my defender in an attacking midfielder role when the opposition bread fast?

Did I say it was from a set piece?

Have I mentioned his goal contribution? Or criticised them?

The bloke is a slug and shouldn’t be pushed up so far.

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Originally Posted by dembethewarrior

Why isn’t it relevant? We won’t always get so lucky and not concede.

How is it ridiculous not to want my defender in an attacking midfielder role when the opposition bread fast?

Did I say it was from a set piece?

Have I mentioned his goal contribution? Or criticised them?

The bloke is a slug and shouldn’t be pushed up so far.

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He's not in the team to score goals, that's just a bonus, he'd much rather be defending well. I don't think that he's great by any stretch, although he does seem to be the one who's getting the kicking when i'd say that Bennett is running him close in the shit stakes. Never have i seen a fullback so unaware of what is going on around him, yet he gets it mild in comparison to some others.

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Originally Posted by Tuerto

He's not in the team to score goals, that's just a bonus, he'd much rather be defending well. I don't think that he's great by any stretch, although he does seem to be the one who's getting the kicking when i'd say that Bennett is running him close in the shit stakes. Never have i seen a fullback so unaware of what is going on around him, yet he gets it mild in comparison to some others.

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I’ve given Morrison as good as I’ve given Flint. How on earth a manager with NW experience thought that was a good idea (to play them together) I’ll never comprehend.

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Originally Posted by dembethewarrior

I’ve given Morrison as good as I’ve given Flint. How on earth a manager with NW experience thought that was a good idea (to play them together) I’ll never comprehend.

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I think that Warnock's head was going.

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Originally Posted by Tuerto

I think that Warnock's head was going.

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Would seem so looking at some of the signings.

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Originally Posted by dembethewarrior

Would seem so looking at some of the signings.

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...and the departures. 🤨

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Originally Posted by The Hooded Claw

...and the departures. 🤨

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Yes

I've been hammering Flint lately, but i thought he played well last night. If he keeps playing like that then hes ahead of Morrison for me.

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Originally Posted by BlueArmy 86

I've been hammering Flint lately, but i thought he played well last night. If he keeps playing like that then hes ahead of Morrison for me.

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I agree. Stoke crossing balls into the box for Sam Vokes was Flints kind of game. Won a few defensive headers towards the end of the game which took the pressure off us.

Bit concerned with the way Nelson was just hoofing the ball out to touch or even out for a goal kick to them once.

I also thought Flint had a decent game. A clean sheet does wonders to a man too so we'll see how he is over the next few games.