Rachel Maddow just turned Donald Trump’s impeachment trial completely upside down

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

That same result with fifty three Democrats and forty seven Republicans and all of this gloating may have been justified, but seeing as I can't remember seeing a single post on here saying Trump would lose the vote, I don't get it - pretty childish really :shrug:

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You'll have to wait until the Whistleblower and IC IG are called in to explain under oath what they were up too. They are not very inventive, it's the same old trick with the same old outcome.

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Originally Posted by Wales-Bales

You'll have to wait until the Whistleblower and IC IG are called in to explain under oath what they were up too. They are not very inventive, it's the same old trick with the same old outcome.

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More classic Gluey ignoring of the point being made. :thumbup:

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Originally Posted by Nelsonca61

I'm not going to gloat, I kinda feel their pain :biggrin:

[D5]

next move is awaited

Follow Rudy

Enjoy the show

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Q+++ is a bit late, Rudy has got 3 or 4 videos out already. The money was sent from Ukraine via Latvia to Cyprus, and then into the bank accounts of the US board members who did absolutely nothing.

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

More classic Gluey ignoring of the point being made. :thumbup:

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It's all a hoax, just like Kavanaugh, Steele, Flynn, Russia collusion, obstruction of justice, and Mueller. Don't you ever wonder why nothing ever turns out like they say it will? This is like the 6th or 7th time it has happened, and there is a US Attorney investigating everything. When is the penny finally going to drop?

Jerry, Jerry, Jerry.

:facepalm::facepalm::facepalm:
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Originally Posted by Nelsonca61

Jerry, Jerry, Jerry.

:facepalm::facepalm::facepalm:
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Joe's job is done, Bloomberg is stepping in to takeover, and Bernie has already been nobbled yet again :hehe: It may also be worth sticking a cheeky tenner on Hillary for VP! :yikes:

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

That same result with fifty three Democrats and forty seven Republicans and all of this gloating may have been justified, but seeing as I can't remember seeing a single post on here saying Trump would lose the vote, I don't get it - pretty childish really :shrug:

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What's your view on the Clinton impeachment, and its processes and acquitted by the Senate?

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Originally Posted by Wales-Bales

Joe's job is done, Bloomberg is stepping in to takeover, and Bernie has already been nobbled yet again :hehe: It may also be worth sticking a cheeky tenner on Hillary for VP! :yikes:

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Oooooooh the semi right wing Democrat socialist hate gang is of again poor old Bernie, there more right wing than Trump , east coast millionaire group , bit like Islington champagne socialism

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Originally Posted by life on mars

What's your view on the Clinton impeachment, and its processes and acquitted by the Senate?

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There were documents, evidence and witnesses at that one.

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Originally Posted by life on mars

Oooooooh the semi right wing Democrat socialist hate gang is of again poor old Bernie, there more right wing than Trump , east coast millionaire group , bit like Islington champagne socialism

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*off
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Quality Daily Mail readers comments this.

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

That same result with fifty three Democrats and forty seven Republicans and all of this gloating may have been justified, but seeing as I can't remember seeing a single post on here saying Trump would lose the vote, I don't get it - pretty childish really :shrug:

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It's a very strange thing, as I'm not sure many British people would describe themselves as democrat or republican. I know I'd feel the same way if Trump was a democrat doing exactly the same thing.

Republican senators - some of whom should be witnesses in the trial that they are a voting juror at, some of whom
publicly said they had decided which way to vote before it began, and some of whom have said 'yes trump did it but he can if he wants so we don't need any evidence' - will unanimously clear him this week. At best, it's a sad day for democracy, at worst it's a turning point in the move away from democracy.

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Originally Posted by life on mars

What's your view on the Clinton impeachment, and its processes and acquitted by the Senate?

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You could be Gluey coming up with such an irrelevant point as that, but, to answer your question, it was purely a number's game in the cases of Clinton and Trump - once they had the support of their party the result was a foregone conclusion.

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

You could be Gluey coming up with such an irrelevant point as that, but, to answer your question, it was purely a number's game in the cases of Clinton and Trump - once they had the support of their party the result was a foregone conclusion.

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Actually Clinton's didn't follow party lines. Republicans outnumbered 55-45.

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Originally Posted by lardy

Actually Clinton's didn't follow party lines. Republicans outnumbered 55-45.

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But that wasn't enough to secure the required majority, once Clinton had the support of his party, he was fine.

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

But that wasn't enough to secure the required majority, once Clinton had the support of his party, he was fine.

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The Senate as in this case had a Democrats majority didn't it ?

The impeachment was brought against a popular president.

The democrats launched a big bombjng attack in Iraq at the time of the impeachment .

That's my point .

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

But that wasn't enough to secure the required majority, once Clinton had the support of his party, he was fine.

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Yes that is true.

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Originally Posted by life on mars

The Senate as in this case had a Democrats majority didn't it ?

The impeachment was brought against a popular president.

The democrats launched a big bombjng attack in Iraq at the time of the impeachment .

That's my point .

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No, that's not true.

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

You could be Gluey coming up with such an irrelevant point as that, but, to answer your question, it was purely a number's game in the cases of Clinton and Trump - once they had the support of their party the result was a foregone conclusion.

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They came up short with their articles of impeachment, and the only question left to answer is how and why did it all happen. I think that's where they will be heading next.

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Originally Posted by Wales-Bales

They came up short with their articles of impeachment, and the only question left to answer is how and why did it all happen. I think that's where they will be heading next.

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Future proves past!! :biggrin:
Attachment 3506

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Originally Posted by Wales-Bales

They came up short with their articles of impeachment, and the only question left to answer is how and why did it all happen. I think that's where they will be heading next.

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Well you would wouldn't you - as I said earlier fifty three Democrats and forty seven Republicans and we would have seen a majority against Trump for what it was worth, the vote was almost entirely down to tribalism with the side who had more of the electorate winning.

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

Well you would wouldn't you - as I said earlier fifty three Democrats and forty seven Republicans and we would have seen a majority against Trump for what it was worth, the vote was almost entirely down to tribalism with the side who had more of the electorate winning.

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Of course I would, cos impeachment is nothing more than Russia Collusion Mk.2, and these people need to be held to account for their continuing attempts to hijack the democratic process. Incidentally, why do you think this this kind of behaviour is acceptable?

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

Well you would wouldn't you - as I said earlier fifty three Democrats and forty seven Republicans and we would have seen a majority against Trump for what it was worth, the vote was almost entirely down to tribalism with the side who had more of the electorate winning.

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The way that the house & senate are currently divided, the house and senate votes went exactly as one would have predicted. edit, this is not either a left or right wing view, it is strictly centrist :biggrin: