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04-02-20, 23:07
Jursset_BrisCity

Re: Well done Harris

One of those hat tricks was against Walsall at home.
I don’t want to dismiss it because a hat trick is fantastic and for a defender.

But I can’t even justify to you how utter dog shit Walsall were.
We won 8-2.
04-02-20, 23:07
The Bloop

Re: Well done Harris

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Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa

Murphy and Glatzel would presumably have taken the last 2. Bamba, Paterson, Richards, Sang and Bennett were the other options. Bennett perhaps but I wouldn't back the others either.

Glatzel picked up a groin strain in the last 5 minutes and Harris didnt notice. He should've been subbed.
Bamba was knackered after an hour and should have come off aswell.
04-02-20, 23:11
Pedro de la Rosa

Re: Well done Harris

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Originally Posted by The Bloop

Glatzel picked up a groin strain in the last 5 minutes and Harris didnt notice. He should've been subbed.
Bamba was knackered after an hour and should have come off aswell.

Our outfield subs were Mayembe, Morrison and Bowen.
04-02-20, 23:11
Eric the Half a Bee

Re: Well done Harris

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Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa

What Harris sees in him, I don't know. I hope Sanderson is good but this is why I was so annoyed on Friday. Richards is horrible and we've panicked, released Pelts and signed a kid when we apparently have ambition...:hehe:

Perhaps Sanderson is the new right back.
04-02-20, 23:14
J R Hartley

Re: Well done Harris

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Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa

Hindsight is 20:20. We should have won the game in normal time. I'd probably have picked Flint as he's scored more goals than pretty much every player in our squad and he's a confident bloke.

Oh please. He scores goals with his head or scruffy tap ins. He’s not as clean a striker of the ball as someone like Bennett.

He’s a banana foot. Any manager with half a brain cell wouldn’t have let him take the first one.

We were playing Reading in a nothing game replay, both sides playing squad teams there was that little regard for the game. It was hardly the play off final.
04-02-20, 23:15
Rock_Flock_of_Five

Re: Well done Harris

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Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee

I just did. Flint goes to his gaffer "I'll nail the first one for you boss, I'll put my neck on the line. Leave the best penalty takers for the end of the shootout."

Maybe Flint has been banging in penalties for fun in training.

The point is that you don't know why he ended up taking the first one.

No doubting he might have said.." I'll take the first one, boss". However, not even Messi would have used words to the effect of "I'll nail it".
As Jursett has said, Flint has never taken a penalty in his professional career!
04-02-20, 23:17
J R Hartley

Re: Well done Harris

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Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa

If you have to score to stay in the game, surely you want your best penalty taker taking that one? The first one means your keeper has 4 more chances to get you out of jail.

What a crock of shit. It’s common practice to send your best taker up first.
04-02-20, 23:18
Pedro de la Rosa

Re: Well done Harris

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Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee

Perhaps Sanderson is the new right back.

We'll soon have no choice. Apparently it was all very last minute and Harris has spoken how highly he rates Richards.
04-02-20, 23:20
Bobby Dandruff

Re: Well done Harris

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Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa

If you have to score to stay in the game, surely you want your best penalty taker taking that one? The first one means your keeper has 4 more chances to get you out of jail.

NO!!!!!!!

Are you Neil Harris??!!

By that time you are out! As we are!

Don’t you see that?
04-02-20, 23:20
Pedro de la Rosa

Re: Well done Harris

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Originally Posted by J R Hartley

What a crock of shit. It’s common practice to send your best taker up first.

Or perhaps we could have had subs that he felt comfortable putting on that would have taken a pen, instead of kids that he clearly didn't trust. I'd blame Harris for the stuff leading up the shootout rather than the pens themselves.
04-02-20, 23:22
Bobby Dandruff

Re: Well done Harris

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Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee

I just did. Flint goes to his gaffer "I'll nail the first one for you boss, I'll put my neck on the line. Leave the best penalty takers for the end of the shootout."

Maybe Flint has been banging in penalties for fun in training.

The point is that you don't know why he ended up taking the first one.

I really don’t but all logic says that it was a stupid idea and one that only a fool would risk taking.
04-02-20, 23:22
Pedro de la Rosa

Re: Well done Harris

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Originally Posted by Bobby Dandruff

NO!!!!!!!

Are you Neil Harris??!!

By that time you are out! As we are!

Don’t you see that?

We're out because Jazz Richards can't defend and Harris picked 4 kids on the bench of which he didn't trust them to come on. If I am Neil Harris, I'm doing a good job of disguising it slagging him off in this thread.
04-02-20, 23:23
Pedro de la Rosa

Re: Well done Harris

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Originally Posted by Bobby Dandruff

I really don’t but all logic says that it was a stupid idea and one that only a fool would risk taking.

What's your 5 then? Of all the things wrong with tonight, who took the flipping pens isn't one I'd focus on.
04-02-20, 23:31
Bobby Dandruff

Re: Well done Harris

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Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa

We're out because Jazz Richards can't defend and Harris picked 4 kids on the bench of which he didn't trust them to come on. If I am Neil Harris, I'm doing a good job of disguising it slagging him off in this thread.

I’m just saying that if you seriously think that putting your best penalty taker last is a good idea, then I am going to have to disagree with you. Along with most of the posts on here about the subject seemingly.

It just defies any logic.

So if Flint HAD to take a penalty then he should have been fifth (or ideally 11th).

Embarrassingly inept decision making by Harris.
04-02-20, 23:33
LeningradCowboy

Re: Well done Harris

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Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa

We'll soon have no choice. Apparently it was all very last minute and Harris has spoken how highly he rates Richards.

Harris said similar things about Peltier. It doesn't mean anything.
04-02-20, 23:34
Pedro de la Rosa

Re: Well done Harris

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Originally Posted by Bobby Dandruff

I’m just saying that if you seriously think that putting your best penalty taker last is a good idea, then I am going to have to disagree with you. Along with most of the posts on here about the subject seemingly.

It just defies any logic.

So if Flint HAD to take a penalty then he should have been fifth (or ideally 11th).

Embarrassingly inept decision making by Harris.

If we had Lee Peltier at right back, we'd be in the 5th round. That's the embarrassing decision. If Glatzel was injured as some have alluded to, then that leaves Vaulks (who missed), Pack and Murphy (can you imagine the reaction if he missed!). This highlights the incredible lack of technical ability in the squad. As soon as it went to pens, we were stuffed.
04-02-20, 23:34
Pedro de la Rosa

Re: Well done Harris

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Originally Posted by LeningradCowboy

Harris said similar things about Peltier. It doesn't mean anything.

He felt strongly enough about Jazz to rip up Peltier's contract, not to mention starting him two games running.
04-02-20, 23:40
SLUDGE FACTORY

Re: Well done Harris

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Originally Posted by Bobby Dandruff

What fool would let a player like Flint anywhere NEAR a penalty?

We listed our penalty takers here and Flint was obviously nowhere near anyone’s 5.

That on top of throwing away a 2 goal lead.

Absolutely pathetic.

Spoilt little kid you are

We could do without fans like you slagging off the players and manager
04-02-20, 23:42
LeningradCowboy

Re: Well done Harris

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Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa

He felt strongly enough about Jazz to rip up Peltier's contract, not to mention starting him two games running.

I don't think we've let Peltier leave so that we can give Jazz a new contract.
04-02-20, 23:44
The Bloop

Re: Well done Harris

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Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa

Our outfield subs were Mayembe, Morrison and Bowen.

If Morrison had been brought on after an hour I doubt the game would have gone to extra time, let alone penalties.
04-02-20, 23:46
Pedro de la Rosa

Re: Well done Harris

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Originally Posted by The Bloop

If Morrison had been brought on after an hour I doubt the game would have gone to extra time, let alone penalties.

Perhaps but that's my entire point in this thread. We have plenty of chances to avoid pens.
04-02-20, 23:47
Pedro de la Rosa

Re: Well done Harris

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Originally Posted by LeningradCowboy

I don't think we've let Peltier leave so that we can give Jazz a new contract.

We ripped up Peltier's contract which presumably means he thinks Jazz is at least good enough to be our right back for this season. Or Pelts realllllllly pissed him off.
04-02-20, 23:51
LeningradCowboy

Re: Well done Harris

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Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa

We ripped up Peltier's contract which presumably means he thinks Jazz is at least good enough to be our right back for this season. Or Pelts realllllllly pissed him off.

Or Peltier asked to leave.
04-02-20, 23:53
Pedro de la Rosa

Re: Well done Harris

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Originally Posted by LeningradCowboy

Or Peltier asked to leave.

Get a fee. Peltier is extremely popular with the players and is a good pro who has only signed a short term deal at WBA. I don't think he'd have kicked up a fuss.
04-02-20, 23:58
Pedro de la Rosa

Re: Well done Harris

Also, we haven't kept a clean sheet without Peltier in the side this season. He has major, major deficiencies going forward but he's so much better than our other full backs.
05-02-20, 00:28
LeningradCowboy

Re: Well done Harris

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Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa

Get a fee. Peltier is extremely popular with the players and is a good pro who has only signed a short term deal at WBA. I don't think he'd have kicked up a fuss.

Nobody is paying a transfer fee for a 33-year-old defensive fullback with 6 months left on his current deal.

I also doubt that Harris forced Peltier out as it wouldn't have gone down well with the rest of the squad.

I'm guessing he wanted a new contract from us, but there was too much disagreement over the terms, so he asked to leave early.
05-02-20, 00:34
Pedro de la Rosa

Re: Well done Harris

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Originally Posted by LeningradCowboy

Nobody is paying a transfer fee for a 33-year-old defensive fullback with 6 months left on his current deal.

I also doubt that Harris forced Peltier out as it wouldn't have gone down well with the rest of the squad.

I'm guessing he wanted a new contract from us, but there was too much disagreement over the terms, so he asked to leave early.

I doubt Peltier would have kicked up a fuss to take a 6 month deal elsewhere, especially when that involves moving house etc. Considering his earlier post on twitter, and him liking tweets saying that he's been forced out, I think it's very much a possibility.
05-02-20, 06:30
dembethewarrior

Re: Well done Harris

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Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa

Is he? I mean, he obviously can't do worse now but he can't kick. Amazingly when you create a squad full of players with no technical ability, you don't have too many obvious choices.

Can't control a ball first time either, but the stuck in the 90s lot on here call for him to be played up top.
05-02-20, 07:18
1/2man1/2horse

Re: Well done Harris

Sneak into the playoffs and this will all be forgotten....
05-02-20, 07:21
Pedro de la Rosa

Re: Well done Harris

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Originally Posted by dembethewarrior

Can't control a ball first time either, but the stuck in the 90s lot on here call for him to be played up top.

He’s still better than anything else we have up front
05-02-20, 07:34
Jimmy the Jock

Re: Well done Harris

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Originally Posted by Allez Allez Allez

So, you listed your 5 penalty takers. What was that based on? Maybe Harris chose his based on training.

Definitely not.
If you watched our penalty’s , it was nothing to do with training .
05-02-20, 07:35
Jimmy the Jock

Re: Well done Harris

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Originally Posted by LeningradCowboy

Nobody is paying a transfer fee for a 33-year-old defensive fullback with 6 months left on his current deal.

I also doubt that Harris forced Peltier out as it wouldn't have gone down well with the rest of the squad.

I'm guessing he wanted a new contract from us, but there was too much disagreement over the terms, so he asked to leave early.

Yep . That’s what happened ..
05-02-20, 07:36
the other bob wilson

Re: Well done Harris

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Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee

Who was our best penalty taker? Like I've just mentioned, sometimes it's about who fancies it. Flint says to Harris, I'm up for this, give me the first one, I'll nail it, save our best for the end when we might need them. Imagine it was Flint taking the last one to level the shootout? You'd be moaning that he'd been left until the business end of the shoot out.

I agree, if you're a manager and you've got someone you don't have faith in crying out to take a penalty while a few you would prefer to take one are saying no way, what do you do? Older readers will remember Don Murray's notorious penalty against Dynamo Berlin in the early 70s, but, nearly every account of it I've read from our players involved are not critical of Don because he stepped forward to take a penalty while others wouldn't - if a manager like Jimmy Scoular couldn't order some of his players that night to take one, it would be very hard for Neil Harris in a day and age where the balance of power is with the players far more.
05-02-20, 07:36
J R Hartley

Re: Well done Harris

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Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa

I doubt Peltier would have kicked up a fuss to take a 6 month deal elsewhere, especially when that involves moving house etc. Considering his earlier post on twitter, and him liking tweets saying that he's been forced out, I think it's very much a possibility.

Club and/or manager didn’t want to offer a guy who is 33 year old an extended contract. That’s to be applauded not criticised. Time to start ripping up Warnocks squad starting with the older players.

We’ve brought in a young lad from Wolves who is very highly rated in the meantime and maybe in the summer we sign him for another year or we get another full back in.

Swear Peltier is Cafu ffs. It’s no loss on the long term.
05-02-20, 07:38
dembethewarrior

Re: Well done Harris

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Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa

He’s still better than anything else we have up front

In your opinion
05-02-20, 07:59
Hilts

Re: Well done Harris

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

I agree, if you're a manager and you've got someone you don't have faith in crying out to take a penalty while a few you would prefer to take one are saying no way, what do you do? Older readers will remember Don Murray's notorious penalty against Dynamo Berlin in the early 70s, but, nearly every account of it I've read from our players involved are not critical of Don because he stepped forward to take a penalty while others wouldn't - if a manager like Jimmy Scoular couldn't order some of his players that night to take one, it would be very hard for Neil Harris in a day and age where the balance of power is with the players far more.

I really cant believe better penalty takers werent up for a penalty in a cup replay its hardly play off semi or final.

Some people have said we dont play to Glatzels strengths something which ive thought what are they because he doesnt appear to have any. However he has taken one really good penalty so should have been up first or 2nd.

I think the fact is we just dont have very good pen takers.

The best penalty taker should be 1st or 2nd. Joe Ralls wasnt playing so Glatzel should have been that person.
05-02-20, 08:03
Hilts

Re: Well done Harris

Peltier good servant but hardly the world beater some would make out. New right back in the summer im sure. The right decision as lets face it we arent making a play off challenge. Pelts obviously wanted a new deal. 33 time to rebuild.

May be difficult but it wasnt Harris who blew around 10m on Flint and Glatzel.
05-02-20, 08:04
The Bloop

Re: Well done Harris

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Originally Posted by Hilts

I really cant believe better penalty takers werent up for a penalty in a cup replay its hardly play off semi or final.

Some people have said we dont play to Glatzels strengths something which ive thought what are they because he doesnt appear to have any. However he has taken one really good penalty so should have been up first or 2nd.

I think the fact is we just dont have very good pen takers.

The best penalty taker should be 1st or 2nd. Joe Ralls wasnt playing so Glatzel should have been that person.

He was injured- looked like he tweaked his groin in the last 10 minutes.
05-02-20, 08:11
dembethewarrior

Re: Well done Harris

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Originally Posted by The Bloop

He was injured- looked like he tweaked his groin in the last 10 minutes.

Nah nah mate facts don't matter, he wants to bash Glatzel he will.
05-02-20, 08:32
Bobby Dandruff

Re: Well done Harris

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

Spoilt little kid you are

We could do without fans like you slagging off the players and manager

I’d stick to unfunny posts about women which get moved to the alternative message board and no one ever reads of I was you :-)

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