Re: Warnock on sky sports
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Originally Posted by
dml1954
Thats a ridiculous comment. No squad is too talented to go down. No doubt you said the same thing in the past about Southampton, Leeds, Sunderland, Man City etc etc. Without Bamba, Hoilett and the total change in attitude and belief instilled by Warnock there is no doubt that we would have been in League One without him.
In your opinion. I reckon Trollope would have kept us up, even if we did go backwards under him.
However, there's no doubts that first season sorted lots of things out and laid the foundations for promotion. That was his success with us.
Re: Warnock on sky sports
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Originally Posted by
dml1954
Thats a ridiculous comment. No squad is too talented to go down. No doubt you said the same thing in the past about Southampton, Leeds, Sunderland, Man City etc etc. Without Bamba, Hoilett and the total change in attitude and belief instilled by Warnock there is no doubt that we would have been in League One without him.
Well, coming from the board expert on ridiculous comments and how to make them that's high praise indeed, I think I should probably say thank you :hehe:.
Re: Warnock on sky sports
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Originally Posted by
Trigger
We have been in debt and unfashionable for the whole of the time I've watched them over the past 25 years or so. Probably have been most of our history.
We have also been outside of the top flight for all bar 2 of the years I've seen us.
How could he possibly have not done more good than bad?
At the very worst we are basically where we were after the last PL campaign.
In the Championship, we're one of the big boys now. We haven't been "unfashionable" since the 90s. Warnock could have possibly done not done more good than bad because he got us one year in the EPL, without capitalizing. He blew all the money on an aging, relatively unskilled squad. Many of whom are still under contract. Harris has alluded to the fact that we won't be making many big signings in the near future. This is a direct result of the Warnock effect. If you remember, after the last EPL campaign we had to big in Slade to "steady the ship", "trim the fat" or whatever you want to call it took 3 years to get out of that situation. So if we're back there, he's definitely done more bad than good.
Re: Warnock on sky sports
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Originally Posted by
dml1954
Thats a ridiculous comment. No squad is too talented to go down. No doubt you said the same thing in the past about Southampton, Leeds, Sunderland, Man City etc etc. Without Bamba, Hoilett and the total change in attitude and belief instilled by Warnock there is no doubt that we would have been in League One without him.
dml1954...
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Re: Warnock on sky sports
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Originally Posted by
dml1954
Thats a ridiculous comment. No squad is too talented to go down. No doubt you said the same thing in the past about Southampton, Leeds, Sunderland, Man City etc etc. Without Bamba, Hoilett and the total change in attitude and belief instilled by Warnock there is no doubt that we would have been in League One without him.
Yet 21 Championship teams manage to avoid it every season. Also, to say that there is "no doubt" that a team would be relegated in 6 months after 10 just games when we weren't even in the bottom 3 is ridiculous. Even for you.
Re: Warnock on sky sports
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Originally Posted by
the other bob wilson
Well, coming from the board expert on ridiculous comments and how to make them that's high praise indeed, I think I should probably say thank you :hehe:.
:hehe: :hehe:
Re: Warnock on sky sports
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Originally Posted by
dml1954
Thats a ridiculous comment. No squad is too talented to go down. .
I would politely suggest that Liverpool and Man City are too talented to go down
Re: Warnock on sky sports
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Originally Posted by
delmbox
I would politely suggest that Liverpool and Man City are too talented to go down
No they aren't. DML has said so.
Re: Warnock on sky sports
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Originally Posted by
delmbox
I would politely suggest that Liverpool and Man City are too talented to go down
What if the fans failed to back the manager? Something terrible could happen.
Re: Warnock on sky sports
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Originally Posted by
NYCBlue
In the Championship, we're one of the big boys now. We haven't been "unfashionable" since the 90s. Warnock could have possibly done not done more good than bad because he got us one year in the EPL, without capitalizing. He blew all the money on an aging, relatively unskilled squad. Many of whom are still under contract. Harris has alluded to the fact that we won't be making many big signings in the near future. This is a direct result of the Warnock effect. If you remember, after the last EPL campaign we had to big in Slade to "steady the ship", "trim the fat" or whatever you want to call it took 3 years to get out of that situation. So if we're back there, he's definitely done more bad than good.
Chances are had he not come in we would have had a couple more short term managers and been around mid table. We were looking nothing like a big boy of the division until he came in.
I'll take a year and a half of some excitement over mid to lower table dullness, which is yes where we are now back but we at least had the experience.
Personally I'd say we are unfashionable, you don't get many players beating the door down to join us, we tend to have to overpay and the style of football has rarely been beautiful, now or before Warnock.
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"at least we had the experience"
That's the plucky little ccfc spirit.
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Originally Posted by
SLUDGE FACTORY
How come eddie Howe has been deemed a premiership manager and warnock isn't?
Warnock was very unlucky with Sheffield United and us , some of the refereeing decisions we had were appalling and if they had gone for us we would have stayed up
Refereeing decisions went for us as well of course.
Brighton at home when Bamba scored the last minute winner - He was offside initially.
We may have had a couple of shockers at the end but we can’t forget we had some go for us.
Re: Warnock on sky sports
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Originally Posted by
B. Oddie
Like a Rubber Johnny.
Is this the same as a dunky?
Re: Warnock on sky sports
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Originally Posted by
delmbox
I think he's a dodgepot with dubious politics who made some appalling signings but I'll always be grateful to him for providing one of my most enjoyable seasons and allowing the club to start again united after the rebrand
Take cover....incoming
Re: Warnock on sky sports
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Originally Posted by
dembethewarrior
"at least we had the experience"
That's the plucky little ccfc spirit.
No one said it should be the limit of our ambition but merely compared to the majority of our history a promotion to the top flight isn't to be sniffed at. Particularly compared to how the season he came in was panning out.
Nothing wrong with enjoying your side winning a few games. We hardly embrace or enjoy mid table mediocrity either.
Re: Warnock on sky sports
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Originally Posted by
Harry Monk
Is this the same as a dunky?
As in Dunky River - the Ely in Llantrisant! 🤣
Re: Warnock on sky sports
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Originally Posted by
Divine Wright
Take cover....incoming
They let it all go! :hehe:
Re: Warnock on sky sports
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Originally Posted by
The Bob Banker Spanker
Refereeing decisions went for us as well of course.
Brighton at home when Bamba scored the last minute winner - He was offside initially.
We may have had a couple of shockers at the end but we can’t forget we had some go for us.
Lucky he never took his shirt off :hehe:
