Re: Terry Phillips - apology
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Originally Posted by
Wales-Bales
In his apology, he said he had "been told from a very reliable source connected to Peter", so his source wasn't random attention seekers on the internet.
I suppose its about how one judges a reliable source , a journalist of many decades of experience should really have known better , surely that is part of the training , if it was a young inexperienced blogger ,wet behind the ears ,wanting to be first to the story , I could better understand this mistake .,it still smells of ,I'm first to report this story line type of moment ,I could be wrong it just appears that way ??
Re: Terry Phillips - apology
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Originally Posted by
life on mars
I suppose its about how one judges a reliable source , a journalist of many decades of experience should really have known better , surely that is part of the training , if it was a young inexperienced blogger ,wet behind the ears ,wanting to be first to the story , I could better understand this mistake .,it still smells of ,I'm first to report this story line type of moment ,I could be wrong it just appears that way ??
I don’t think you are wrong !!!
Re: Terry Phillips - apology
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Originally Posted by
mazadona10
Whilst I'm sure he has genuine well wishes for Peter and his family. It appears he was more concerned about getting the scoop.
You have no way of knowing that.
Re: Terry Phillips - apology
I fell for it like a few others because I thought the story had come from a reliable source, but I'm shocked that Terry didn't make sure he was right before putting it out. I'm no journalist , but having written a piece for the blog about Whitts straight after reading the story in Dai Sport, I decided to delay putting it out until there was further confirmation - I did something similar with Chris Barker and I don't think there is anything clever in that, it just seemed obvious.
It took me about three quarters of an hour to write my tribute to Whitts and it was a great pleasure to have it confirmed this morning that it was all a complete waste of time.
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I followed the timeline closely yesterday as I’m self isolating and had plenty of time on my hands.
It started with the tweet from Adam Brown who just said he had heard he was in a bad way and wished fir a speedy recovery. Then the ITKers on the other board started posting that they’d had texts that the news was much worse but they couldn’t say what. As soon as someone actually suggested that he had dyed those same people were then saying that they’d known for hrs from someone that works in ICU but it wasn’t there place to say originally but they could confirm that he’d died yesterday morning. I urged all my friends posting the news to hold back because there was nothing official and I was getting PMs saying it was definitely true because they had close mates in the hospital etc!
To be fair to Mike he closed gown all discussion on the subject yesterday morning due to lack of confirmation unlike **** who was revelling in the number of hits on his board!
Re: Terry Phillips - apology
There's some proper virtue signalling on this board at times, but this thread takes the biscuit. Bloke made a mistake and fronted up to it. We move on.
Re: Terry Phillips - apology
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Originally Posted by
Der Kaiser
There's some proper virtue signalling on this board at times, but this thread takes the biscuit. Bloke made a mistake and fronted up to it. We move on.
Agreed,
Re: Terry Phillips - apology
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Originally Posted by
BLUETIT
Nothing really!!
How would you feel if someone wrote that someone close to you had died, when it wasn’t so ????
I repeat, “it is up to the family”
I would be annoyed and upset and then when they apologised I'd accept that that's enough and the matter's over. Not sure why it isn't enough for you as a stranger on the internet
Re: Terry Phillips - apology
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Originally Posted by
Der Kaiser
There's some proper virtue signalling on this board at times, but this thread takes the biscuit. Bloke made a mistake and fronted up to it. We move on.
Everybody makes mistakes. When you work in the media you have to walk a thin line between 100% accuracy and time to "press". His posts and eulogy replete with personal reminisces gave credibility that Whitts had passed, enough to convince people on here who would otherwise be sceptical.
Surely you have to be utterly convinced that someone is dead before you do this kind of thing.
Re: Terry Phillips - apology
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Originally Posted by
Der Kaiser
There's some proper virtue signalling on this board at times, but this thread takes the biscuit. Bloke made a mistake and fronted up to it. We move on.
He's an established journalist who has a responsibility to get things right, especially someone dying. Nobody wants him to burn in hell and i'm sure that he feels pretty low about it, and he's apologised, fair enough. People can criticise for piss poor journalism and judgement as we do with plenty of current City players on their performance in a professional capacity.
Re: Terry Phillips - apology
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Originally Posted by
BLUETIT
Still not good enough
It’s up to the family to announce a death, not some 2 bit wanna be
Tony I appreciate your comments and actually agree with you to some extent but for many he will feel like part of the family. My mrs actually burst into tears when she heard the rumours.
People have a need to know and as much as it’s not right as you have said, it’s natural to speculate
Re: Terry Phillips - apology
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Originally Posted by
NYCBlue
You have no way of knowing that.
Like he didn't know either but my comments are far less hurtful and damagin8
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I like Terry a lot. He is a genuine guy who, as a very experienced journalist should have done far better research of the claim of a “reliable source”. He made a big mistake in doing so but has published a full and frank apology for that mistake.
What I personally believe should be a follow up is an identification of who that “reliable source” was or at least narrowing it down to whether it was a family member, a family friend or just messageboard contributors or owners who claimed to have “facts” just for personal ego purposes
Re: Terry Phillips - apology
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Originally Posted by
Since62
I like Terry a lot. He is a genuine guy who, as a very experienced journalist should have done far better research of the claim of a “reliable source”. He made a big mistake in doing so but has published a full and frank apology for that mistake.
What I personally believe should be a follow up is an identification of who that “reliable source” was or at least narrowing it down to whether it was a family member, a family friend or just messageboard contributors or owners who claimed to have “facts” just for personal ego purposes
Someone replied to the clubs twitter post earlier, with a suggestion as to who that source was.
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I don’t do Twitter so what was the suggestion?
Re: Terry Phillips - apology
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Originally Posted by
Since62
I like Terry a lot. He is a genuine guy who, as a very experienced journalist should have done far better research of the claim of a “reliable source”. He made a big mistake in doing so but has published a full and frank apology for that mistake.
What I personally believe should be a follow up is an identification of who that “reliable source” was or at least narrowing it down to whether it was a family member, a family friend or just messageboard contributors or owners who claimed to have “facts” just for personal ego purposes
Appreciate what you say and your personal relationship but the identification of the source is surely less relevant than the journalistic failures here. If Terry Phillips wishes to identify who gave him the information that gave credibility to "Whitt's death" then ok but it does not make his role in this sad affair any less culpable.
Re: Terry Phillips - apology
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Originally Posted by
BLUETIT
Still not good enough
It’s up to the family to announce a death, not some 2 bit wanna be
That is why Terry Phillips is a 2 bit journalist
"I was told by a reliable source" - his reliable sources used to get him into all sorts of bother when he was writing for the SWE. Now he is writing for a shit web-site. and I am happy to type this because he reads this board. What sort of jumped up prat, claiming to be an experienced journalist, makes a mistake like he has?
Re: Terry Phillips - apology
I notice that the people who regularly get sucked in to some bollocks they read are quick to defend Terry.
Re: Terry Phillips - apology
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Originally Posted by
lardy
I notice that the people who regularly get sucked in to some bollocks they read are quick to defend Terry.
You've spent the past 3 years shit-posting about a Russia collusion hoax that you read on CNN, and it all turned out to be a load of bollocks, so you are the very last person who should be dishing out this kind of advice on here mate :hehe:
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I think you should all hold fire on any comments made!