Re: First steps to coming out of lockdown?
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splott parker
Well, in that case I’m sticking with the football message board experts then:hehe:
It would also have helped if @jon1959 posted a link to the article he was quoting. I guess he was in such a rush after finding one singular article that he had more pressing things to get on with.
I assume it is this one
https://www.pharmaceutical-journal.c...irstPass=false
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Inovio’s Zika vaccine went from concept to first human dose in just seven months, which Kim believes is the fastest any vaccine has been put into practice in history. The company published the results of its phase I trial of the vaccine in October 2017 — in which 100% of participants produced antibodies to the virus after three doses of vaccine — and has begun phase II trials[2]. The US National Institutes of Allergy and Infectious Disease (NIAID) is also developing a DNA vaccine for Zika, which is now in phase II trials.
Article date 1 Feb 2018.
Strange, then that this article from just 5 months ago still talks of "breakthroughs" in a vaccine for Zika virus. This seems to indicate that the vaccine @jon1959 talks about may not have been successful?
https://www.sciencedaily.com/release...1213115442.htm
I admit, it took me more than 3 google clicks.
Re: First steps to coming out of lockdown?
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CCFCC3PO
With regards to "most informed opinion". Has a survey been undertaken that backs that up? The claims of there being vaccines ready in 12-18 months are definitely catching the headlines. There are quite a few people who are a bit more reserved about the chances.
Michael Mina, assistant professor of epidemiology at Harvard says
There are quite a few others out there. Dr Peter Hotez for one. Also, the inventor of the rotavirus vaccine said
I am not saying that it is impossible for a vaccine to be produced in 12-18 months - I don't really know if it is possible or not. However, if you look at the history of vaccines, one has not been clinically trialled and mass produced in that time frame.
Again, not that this is in any way related, we were told antibody tests would be available within days. From memory, this was a couple of days after the lockdown started. They are available, but they are too unreliable. So, until these scientists explain why a vaccine will be available in 12-18 months, based on current progress, tests, results etc then I will remain cautious about the claims.
Oxford University saying they may a vaccine by September: https://www.itv.com/news/2020-04-14/...ng-tom-clarke/
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-a9460481.html
Re: First steps to coming out of lockdown?
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City123
Yes, they say they may. They put its chances of success at 80%.
Re: First steps to coming out of lockdown?
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CCFCC3PO
Yes, they say they may. They put its chances of success at 80%.
i think she said the chance of developing one is 80% not the chance of it bering successful
Re: First steps to coming out of lockdown?
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xsnaggle
i think she said the chance of developing one is 80% not the chance of it bering successful
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Professor Gilbert told The Times she was “80 per cent confident” the vaccine being developed by her team would be successful in protecting people against the disease.
Like jon, it seems you need to slow down.
Re: First steps to coming out of lockdown?
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xsnaggle
This won't please sports watchers at all. From the BBC Coronavirus Wales live reports:
Mass gatherings 'could be banned for a year'
Dr Meirion Evans
BBCCopyright: BBC
Dr Meirion Evans has worked as a consultant epidemiologist for Public Health Wales. Dr Meirion Evans has worked as a consultant epidemiologist for Public Health Wales
Mass gatherings could be banned in Wales for more than a year while the hunt for a vaccine continues, a senior government adviser says.
Dr Meirion Evans, professional adviser to Wales' chief medical officer, says the restrictions could remain until a vaccination is routinely available.
However, he says some lockdown measures could be relaxed over the coming weeks.
Official figures show 463 people have died with coronavirus in Wales, with 6,118 confirmed cases.
So scientist say restrictions *could* remain until a vaccination is routinely available. BBC then in it's headline uses quotes for 'could be banned for a year' - which isn't what was said.
Media have a lot to answer for.
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tell it like it is
So scientist say restrictions *could* remain until a vaccination is routinely available. BBC then in it's headline uses quotes for 'could be banned for a year' - which isn't what was said.
Media have a lot to answer for.
It is given as a quote, so if it wasn't can you enlighten us to what he actually did say?
Re: First steps to coming out of lockdown?
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goats
Strange that places like travis Perkins have shut, surely they should try and keep the building trade going......
Builders merchants and DIY stores should be open now with good social distancing measures, a lot of people are off work and now have time to do some job's but can't get hold of the Wood, Bricks, paint etc needed!
Re: First steps to coming out of lockdown?
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Originally Posted by
xsnaggle
This won't please sports watchers at all. From the BBC Coronavirus Wales live reports:
Mass gatherings 'could be banned for a year'
Dr Meirion Evans
BBCCopyright: BBC
Dr Meirion Evans has worked as a consultant epidemiologist for Public Health Wales. Dr Meirion Evans has worked as a consultant epidemiologist for Public Health Wales
Mass gatherings could be banned in Wales for more than a year while the hunt for a vaccine continues, a senior government adviser says.
Dr Meirion Evans, professional adviser to Wales' chief medical officer, says the restrictions could remain until a vaccination is routinely available.
However, he says some lockdown measures could be relaxed over the coming weeks.
Official figures show 463 people have died with coronavirus in Wales, with 6,118 confirmed cases.
Dr Max Pemberton thinks the lockdown has already gone too far?
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/a...PEMBERTON.html
Re: First steps to coming out of lockdown?
Time for 2 outdoor excersise sessions a day I think, maybe walk in the morning and cycle in the afternoon.
It will be getting the population fitter and stronger to beat the virus if they get it, help defeat the boredom, and as you can distance and avoid touching anything, shouldn't increase to the spread of the virus!
This could be the first change.
Re: First steps to coming out of lockdown?
Like many of you, no doubt, I received an email today from UEFA - about Euro 2021 going ahead on the same format as planned for this year. Can't see it happening myself.
Re: First steps to coming out of lockdown?
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xsnaggle
It is given as a quote, so if it wasn't can you enlighten us to what he actually did say?
What he actually said is, errm, in the article.
Re: First steps to coming out of lockdown?
When the lockdown is eased I think it would be helpful to consider relaxing the once a day exercise restriction. Where social distancing is practised the risk of transmitting or becoming infected with the virus outdoors appears to be very small compared with the risk indoors for example in shops, the workplace and on public transport. Regular exercise aids weight loss, improves physical and mental health and boosts immunity, all things which will give people the best chance of fighting the virus.
Re: First steps to coming out of lockdown?
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Taunton Blue Genie
Like many of you, no doubt, I received an email today from UEFA - about Euro 2021 going ahead on the same format as planned for this year. Can't see it happening myself.
What do you foresee?
Re: First steps to coming out of lockdown?
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Baloo
What do you foresee?
You are going to meet a tall, dark, handsome stranger...
