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			Well Americans are or at least were terrorists that were traitors against the crown who didn't want to pay their taxes.
They were a combined half a decade late entering the World wars so they are no friends of ours as far as I am concerned, I hope we still have an independent nuclear deterrent and some of our missiles are pointed at them for our own protection.
			
		
	 
 This thread is specifically about FISA abuse during 2016-17, so you probably need to start a new thread of your own where you can discuss your personal pet hates, instead of constantly trying to derail this one :thumbup:
	 
	
	
	
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			This thread is specifically about FISA abuse during 2016-17, so you probably need to start a new thread of your own where you can discuss your personal pet hates, instead of constantly trying to derail this one :thumbup:
			
		
	 
 FISA is American and I've just past comment on the Yanks and will continue to do so if and when I see fit.
	 
	
	
	
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			FISA is American and I've just past comment on the Yanks and will continue to do so if and when I see fit.
			
		
	 
 The FISA court has got feck all to do with WWW I & II, nor the American War of Independence! I suppose you will be saying that you don't like hamburgers and hotdogs next :hehe:
PS secret courts similar to FISA exist globally in many countries around the world.
	 
	
	
	
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			The FISA court has got feck all to do with WWW I & II, nor the American War of Independence! I suppose you will be saying that you don't like hamburgers and hotdogs next :hehe:
PS secret courts similar to FISA exist globally in many countries around the world.
			
		
	 
 It's everything to do with the American psyche and how they think and act.
	 
	
	
	
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			It's everything to do with the American psyche and how they think and act.
			
		
	 
 This thread is about to rule of law, so I don't think it's a very good idea to spin it off into a discussion about psychology.
	 
	
	
	
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			This thread is about to rule of law, so I don't think it's a very good idea to spin it off into a discussion about psychology.
			
		
	 
 What you think is neither here nor there, a thread will go where posters posts take it.
	 
	
	
	
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			What you think is neither here nor there, a thread will go where posters posts take it.
			
		
	 
 No problem, but as I tend to put nutjobs on ignore, I will be immune from your inane mutterings.
	 
	
	
	
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			No problem, but as I tend to put nutjobs on ignore, I will be immune from your inane mutterings.
			
		
	 
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		Downer raised Russia concerns at US embassy without government approval
Former foreign minister Alexander Downer acted without clearance from Australian officials when he contacted United States diplomats four years ago to raise concerns about potential Russian interference in the US presidential election.
A new memoir by former prime minister Malcolm Turnbull reveals that Mr Downer raised his concerns directly with the US embassy in London in July 2016 but had "no authority from Canberra" to do so.
The move was crucial to the launch of an FBI investigation into the Russian support for the election of US President Donald Trump, who dismissed the inquiry as a "witch-hunt" and ordered an inquiry into the affair.
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/fede...16-p54kho.html
	 
	
	
	
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		It's interesting all this talk in America of Russian influence in American affairs yet it's ironic that America are known for instigating regime change across the World and trying to get their puppet in charge yet lots of Americans seem oblivious to this.
	 
	
	
	
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			It's the process where states use a secret court to spy on their own citizens, and there needs to be a very good reason to do that, along with a robust judiciary that ensures nobody abuses the system. If basic rule of law is not respected, then you will find yourself living in a banana republic.
			
		
	 
 What I can't understand is why those who have liberty as thier strong point,  are not appalled by this .
As previously posted if it was found to exist in the UK  there would be uproar .
If it was introduced during Obama's tenureship that is not good ,as I thought his adminstration was better than that ,  I'm not 100% sure of when or who deployed it , love to know though  ???
	 
	
	
	
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			What I can't understand is why those who have liberty as thier strong point,  are not appalled by this .
As previously posted if it was found to exist in the UK  there would be uproar .
If it was introduced during Obama's tenureship that is not good ,as I thought his adminstration was better than that ,  I'm not 100% sure of when or who deployed it , love to know though  ???
			
		
	 
 https://www.libertyhumanrights.org.u...-legal-action/
	 
	
	
	
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		General Michael Flynn is now unleashed, and those who sullied his good name will have a price to pay.
	 
	
	
	
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 Bloody where are the lefties they should be taking to the streets , or is it down to that awful USA/ TDS addiction
	 
	
	
	
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 This deserves its own thread. Not clear what the timescale will be for the legal action - although I expect it will be years not months.
	 
	
	
	
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			What I can't understand is why those who have liberty as thier strong point,  are not appalled by this .
As previously posted if it was found to exist in the UK  there would be uproar .
If it was introduced during Obama's tenureship that is not good ,as I thought his adminstration was better than that ,  I'm not 100% sure of when or who deployed it , love to know though  ???
			
		
	 
 Shoot to kill, internment, unelected Parliamentary chamber, a Monarchy, a state religion in Ingerlund, CC tv everywhere, UK secret service and spies are noted for their expertise in their craft.
Human rights lawyers, scientific experts, political leaders have died in unusual circumstances in the UK - who knows what happened to them hey.
Some say we invented concentration camps out in Africa (others say it was other imperialist types), we also lost millions dead and displaced in our country during the so called potato famine.
	 
	
	
	
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			Shoot to kill, internment, unelected Parliamentary chamber, a Monarchy, a state religion in Ingerlund, CC tv everywhere, UK secret service and spies are noted for their expertise in their craft.
Human rights lawyers, scientific experts, political leaders have died in unusual circumstances in the UK - who knows what happened to them hey.
Some say we invented concentration camps out in Africa (others say it was other imperialist types), we also lost millions dead and displaced in our country during the so called potato famine.
			
		
	 
 The same thing is happening in America, but at least someone is trying to do something about it, with the support of a sizable chunk of the population.
	 
	
	
	
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			The same thing is happening in America, but at least someone is trying to do something about it, with the support of a sizable chunk of the population.
			
		
	 
 Yanks are second rate at best for covert operations,  the UK are top the league for such things.
	 
	
	
	
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		<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Maria Bartiromo: Gen. Flynn to be completely exonerated this week <a href="https://t.co/2TZRD9GZJU">https://t.co/2TZRD9GZJU</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/MorningsMaria?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@MorningsMaria</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/FoxBusiness?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@FoxBusiness</a></p>— Maria Bartiromo (@MariaBartiromo) <a href="https://twitter.com/MariaBartiromo/status/1254759657681358849?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 27, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
	 
	
	
	
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			<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Maria Bartiromo: Gen. Flynn to be completely exonerated this week <a href="https://t.co/2TZRD9GZJU">https://t.co/2TZRD9GZJU</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/MorningsMaria?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@MorningsMaria</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/FoxBusiness?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@FoxBusiness</a></p>— Maria Bartiromo (@MariaBartiromo) <a href="https://twitter.com/MariaBartiromo/status/1254759657681358849?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 27, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
			
		
	 
 Oh dear this won't go down well with the TDS sufferers. 
Is there a cure?
	 
	
	
	
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			Oh dear this won't go down well with the TDS sufferers. 
Is there a cure?
			
		
	 
 Unfortunately there isn't, they just double down as you have witnessed 5 or 6 times already, not to mention the personal attacks they made to try and discredit me.
	 
	
	
	
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			Unfortunately there isn't, they just double down as you have witnessed 5 or 6 times already, not to mention the personal attacks they made to try and discredit me.
			
		
	 
 lardy and cyril the shill,missing in action on this thread.:hehe:
	 
	
	
	
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			lardy and cyril the shill,missing in action on this thread.:hehe:
			
		
	 
 Indeed ..🤫🤫🤫🤫