Seems care homes suffering across Europe

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Originally Posted by tell it like it is

Just 21% of UK Covid deaths come from care homes, a lower percentage than most comparable EU countries.

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Originally Posted by tell it like it is

The problem for everyone is statistics are being generated on the fly, we're potentially seeing issues across nations in terms of the way they are collated etc. I don't think any nation will have "true" figures for a very long time.

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confused.com

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Originally Posted by tell it like it is

FOAD.

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It seems sleeper accounts ultimately revert to the habits that got them banned in the first place!

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Originally Posted by tell it like it is

FOAD.

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What a twat

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Originally Posted by tell it like it is

FOAD.

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Pretty ironic of "tell it like it is" to use an acronym instead of saying it....

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Originally Posted by jon1959

No.

But if it makes you happy your Organ-lite post was a proposing a genuine choice between conspiracy and coincidence to explain care home deaths across Europe. Coincidence would be the right answer - even if you doubled down on your original purpose of promoting conspiracy with a post of a directive (not from Europe) to move elderly patients from hospital into care homes.

It seems like many countries made the same mistake whilst trying to free up hospital beds for Covid patients - but some mitigated that mistake with PPE, testing, tracing and quarantine whilst others (UK and USA at top of the list) did not.

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I already knew people were going from hospitals into care homes without prior testing, or even displaying Covid-19 symptoms, so it's hardly a conspiracy. It's a fact that Keir Starmer brought up in PMQ today.

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Originally Posted by Wales-Bales

I already knew people were going from hospitals into care homes without prior testing, or even displaying Covid-19 symptoms, so it's hardly a conspiracy. It's a fact that Keir Starmer brought up in PMQ today.

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Did he get the directive OR did he not get the directive? Zzzzzz.....

Anyways this report seems to suggest Europe has had similar car homes issues as the UK

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-52704836



Interestingly the emotional charged debates about how Europe's behaviors relating to the UK is often used , such as how progressive their health care , educations are , it now appears good old modern Europe want to open up , get back to school , in fact many are .

Finally here is the the criticism of Labour run Wales in all this with their care homes , testing and PPE procurement ,if the UK government was asleep at the wheel we are still in a coma , Wales has it their gift to do something differently ,like Denmark ??

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-52704836

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Originally Posted by life on mars

Anyways this report seems to suggest Europe has had similar car homes issues as the UK

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-52704836



Interestingly the emotional charged debates about how Europe's behaviors relating to the UK is often used , such as how progressive their health care , educations are , it now appears good old modern Europe want to open up , get back to school , in fact many are .

Finally here is the the criticism of Labour run Wales in all this with their care homes , testing and PPE procurement ,if the UK government was asleep at the wheel we are still in a coma , Wales has it their gift to do something differently ,like Denmark ??

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-52704836

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same link twice - - about Sweden.

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Originally Posted by jon1959

Did he get the directive OR did he not get the directive? Zzzzzz.....

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You're a political hack with a dodgy ideology. What have you got against the truth? :biggrin:

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Originally Posted by Wales-Bales

You're a political hack with a dodgy ideology. What have you got against the truth? :biggrin:

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Give him a straight answer then

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Originally Posted by xsnaggle

same link twice - - about Sweden.

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Not only that - I do believe the link is to the same report which started this thread.

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Originally Posted by life on mars

Anyways this report seems to suggest Europe has had similar car homes issues as the UK

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-52704836



Interestingly the emotional charged debates about how Europe's behaviors relating to the UK is often used , such as how progressive their health care , educations are , it now appears good old modern Europe want to open up , get back to school , in fact many are .

Finally here is the the criticism of Labour run Wales in all this with their care homes , testing and PPE procurement ,if the UK government was asleep at the wheel we are still in a coma , Wales has it their gift to do something differently ,like Denmark ??

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-52704836

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"Car homes issues". Swansea must be having more car homes issues than most of Europe right now.

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Originally Posted by Croesy Blue

Give him a straight answer then

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Haven't you repeatedly asked other posters why they engage with him? Take your own advice, CB. You know it makes sense :thumbup:

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Originally Posted by xsnaggle

same link twice - - about Sweden.

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Read all the article it actually refers to Europe as well:


But as in many( European countries,) relatives, staff and union officials have shared concerns that protective clothing arrived too late, and that some staff may have gone to work at the start of the crisis despite showing symptoms of Covid-19.

Now, increasing numbers of workers are also coming forward to criticise regional healthcare authorities for protocols which they say discourage care home workers from sending residents into hospital, and prevent care home and nursing staff from administering oxygen without a doctor's approval, either as part of acute or palliative (end-of-life) services.