Re: Wales and England today....
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Originally Posted by
CCFCC3PO
That isn't what he is saying.
You're not answering the question I am asking.
Yesterday you made an assertion that you challenge opinions that are based as fact.
That is what I am doing, and it appears Baloo and Croesy Blue are too.
I'll let Baloo spell out his point to you, maybe using sock puppets, or maybe a song - songs are easier to digest.
I'm leaving my question open too.
You are a boring twat. Why don't you just giver in, you know you're a waste.
I rarely if ever quote anything as fact. I think 99% of whats on here is opinion backed up by whatever bit of crap off the internet suits the argument. Its all garbage and of no relevance at all except to fill in time. Ifd you are so stupid or so obsessed with everything I post that you grasp everytthng as fact that needs to be disproved then you must have a very sad existence. now carry on posting to yourself 'cause I'm not listening. :wave:
Re: Wales and England today....
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Originally Posted by
xsnaggle
You are a boring twat. Why don't you just giver in, you know you're a waste.
I rarely if ever quote anything as fact. I think 99% of whats on here is opinion backed up by whatever bit of crap off the internet suits the argument. Its all garbage and of no relevance at all except to fill in time. Ifd you are so stupid or so obsessed with everything I post that you grasp everytthng as fact that needs to be disproved then you must have a very sad existence. now carry on posting to yourself 'cause I'm not listening. :wave:
I'll take that as a yes then - you did assume that everyone not at the demonstration wanted Brexit done.
Re: Wales and England today....
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Originally Posted by
xsnaggle
A minority vote for every winning party in any general election. You could argue that all day if you want to waste your time. :hehe:
It's a fair point, though. Tories + Brexit Company + UKIP polled less than half of the vote. Labour had leave voters still vote for them. I know the Tories had remain voters vote for them, not because they wanted to leave, but because they were fed up of the shenanigans. Throw into the mixing pot that, each year following the referendum, those wanting to remain kept growing in number.
Similar happened in the European elections preceding that.
Had the Brexit Company been as serious about the General Election as it was the European election, there would have been quite a different result. As it was, deals were done and one party was a vote to sort out Brexit (not necessarily a vote in favour of it). Unfortunately Labour and the Lib Dems were too busy arguing with each other.
Re: Wales and England today....
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Originally Posted by
xsnaggle
I think 99% of whats on here is opinion backed up by whatever bit of crap off the internet suits the argument.
In fairness my post that you had an issue with was 100% fact and 0% opinion.
Re: Wales and England today....
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Originally Posted by
Eric the Half a Bee
It's a fair point, though. Tories + Brexit Company + UKIP polled less than half of the vote. Labour had leave voters still vote for them. I know the Tories had remain voters vote for them, not because they wanted to leave, but because they were fed up of the shenanigans. Throw into the mixing pot that, each year following the referendum, those wanting to remain kept growing in number.
Similar happened in the European elections preceding that.
Had the Brexit Company been as serious about the General Election as it was the European election, there would have been quite a different result. As it was, deals were done and one party was a vote to sort out Brexit (not necessarily a vote in favour of it). Unfortunately Labour and the Lib Dems were too busy arguing with each other.
OK, we really don't want another Brexit debate. all the people on here who were so vehemently against it just proves the point really doesn't it lol? not exactly the "silent majority".
The point being discussed was what TLG said about the majority of people slowly beginning to ignore the lockdown whatever the Goverment says. The Welsh news interviewed ordinary people who all said that they beleive the Welsh Governemt is right and they should keep it on, but of course you have to temper that with the thought that if they didn't say that then they wouldn't have been on the news in the first place.
And of course if it is lifted there is nothing to stop those that choose to stay locked down to stay locked down.
I'm not going to argue against political bias because it's unwinnable. As I said, generally the winning party in any election polls less than half the vote. The point is that if, as the Lib Dems wrongly deduced, the vast majority of the country did not want Brexit then they would have voted for them. They didn't!
And people will not vote to keep the lockdown in place too long, specially if England is freeing up.
Re: Wales and England today....
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Originally Posted by
Baloo
In fairness my post that you had an issue with was 100% fact and 0% opinion.
Yeah, but it's only the internet telling you what you want to hear mate. Really, 70% voted for UKIP, Tories and Brexit Party - it's just the BBC lying to make you think it was fewer than that.
Re: Wales and England today....
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Originally Posted by
xsnaggle
I'm not going to argue against political bias because it's unwinnable. As I said, generally the winning party in any election polls less than half the vote. The point is that if, as the Lib Dems wrongly deduced, the vast majority of the country did not want Brexit then they would have voted for them. They didn't!
You're not going to argue against political bias, then post your own? There is a point here that party politics was in play as well as Brexit. It wasn't a single issue election. There was also the Corbyn factor.
Last year's general election was not a ringing endorsement of Brexit, no matter how you spin it. Once again you prefer your opinion to anything else, yet you wonder why people have a pop and become pedantic with you! :hehe:
Re: Wales and England today....
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Originally Posted by
xsnaggle
OK, we really don't want another Brexit debate. all the people on here who were so vehemently against it just proves the point really doesn't it lol? not exactly the "silent majority".
The point being discussed was what TLG said about the majority of people slowly beginning to ignore the lockdown whatever the Goverment says. The Welsh news interviewed ordinary people who all said that they beleive the Welsh Governemt is right and they should keep it on, but of course you have to temper that with the thought that if they didn't say that then they wouldn't have been on the news in the first place.
And of course if it is lifted there is nothing to stop those that choose to stay locked down to stay locked down.
I'm not going to argue against political bias because it's unwinnable. As I said, generally the winning party in any election polls less than half the vote. The point is that if, as the Lib Dems wrongly deduced, the vast majority of the country did not want Brexit then they would have voted for them. They didn't!
And people will not vote to keep the lockdown in place too long, specially if England is freeing up.
No, what you said was that the GE result proved that 63,000,000 people wanted Brexit done and dusted.
Re: Wales and England today....
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Originally Posted by
Eric the Half a Bee
You're not going to argue against political bias, then post your own? There is a point here that party politics was in play as well as Brexit. It wasn't a single issue election. There was also the Corbyn factor.
Last year's general election was not a ringing endorsement of Brexit, no matter how you spin it. Once again you prefer your opinion to anything else, yet you wonder why people have a pop and become pedantic with you! :hehe:
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Re: Wales and England today....
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Originally Posted by
CCFCC3PO
:hehe:
As I said I don't want political argument but I thought that the Labour party said that Corbyn's leadership wasn't a factor? But again, I don't really care.
Re: Wales and England today....
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Originally Posted by
xsnaggle
As I said I don't want political argument but I thought that the Labour party said that Corbyn's leadership wasn't a factor? But again, I don't really care.
What has that got to do with your comments?
