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Personally I am up to here with the politics of the way this crisis hay been handled.
People have died and are still dying because the bunch of people who are supposed to be running the country are out of their depth and don’t know what do next.
I think TOBW above hit the nail. Let the people of the UK get on with doing things the way they want and accept the consequences that arise.
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I never understand people calling Diane Abbot stupid, how many posters on here got into Cambridge?
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stan butler
Colour doesn't come into it so stop playing the race card it's because she's thick
What university did you go to mate?
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Oh really ? So just because she's the first black female MP, she has a free rein to make racist or anti-white comments in public does she ? "White people like to divide and rule" is one of hers and there are many others if you wish to check. There is no excuse for this type of behaviour regardless of colour so I most certainly do not respect her just because of her status.
Never underestimate the sensitivity of a white man. No one in the equivalent position has an easier life than the white man yet they can't stop ****ing whinging.
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Moodybluebird
Replace the word white with black, post it and see what happens to you matey !!
In my view there's nothing racist in the statement, although it would be pretty historically inaccurate to claim "black people like to divide and rule" when referring to the tactics of the British Empire.
Why do you feel its racist?
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Croesy Blue
Never underestimate the sensitivity of a white man. No one in the equivalent position has an easier life than the white man yet they can't stop ****ing whinging.
Yep, another balanced response Croesy Blue. What a gem you are.
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Absolutely not ! I've already said that Boris and Co. have not covered themselves in glory and I stand by that.
But the post you've responded to is about whether Ms Abbott should be put on a pedestal just because she is the country's first black female MP. I suggest not, given the overtly racist, anti-white comments she has made in the past.
To be honest, I'm not remotely interested in speculating on how Messrs Corbyn and McDonald and Dianne Abbott would have done, they're all backbenchers now I believe and so what's the point? We have a Government that has overseen a situation where, no matter what stats you look at, the UK compares poorly with the rest of the world and now they've managed to create a situation whereby they are struggling to keep the country on board with their guidelines with many believing they are putting party and personal matters above people's wellbeing.
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Yep, another balanced response Croesy Blue. What a gem you are.
It's true mate. Never under estimate how much easier life for us.
It's true you're being a sensitive soul by crying racism too. It wasn't the cleverest thing for her to say, but it doesn't make it wrong.
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Moodybluebird
Replace the word white with black, post it and see what happens to you matey !!
Yes because white people are so oppressed by racial hate :hehe:
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Comparing the Labour party in UK with the Labour party in New Zealand is like comparing Jack the Ripper with a fluffy bunny rabbit. Also, the people who are most vociferous on this forum and the media in general, about criticising the current Government, are the ones who refuse to accept the result of the Brexit vote and the last election, consider anyone who voted for either to be idiots and won't shut up until the will of the British people is ignored and both are reversed. NB to them - the next election isn't until 2024 and by then we will be long shot of the EU and covid-19.
We wont be long shot of covid 19 if the government response to it is anything to go by
And you think the EU nonsense will sorted by then ?
You have been sold a kipper
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SLUDGE FACTORY
We wont be long shot of covid 19 if the government response to it is anything to go by
And you think the EU nonsense will sorted by then ?
You have been sold a kipper
Arbroath smokie . Mmmm!!
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Croesy Blue
It's true mate. Never under estimate how much easier life for us.
It's true you're being a sensitive soul by crying racism too. It wasn't the cleverest thing for her to say, but it doesn't make it wrong.
I accept as a generality that life is easier for us than many black people but being overtly racist is unacceptable behaviour, especially for one in the public eye. Ms Abbott has a long history of making unsavoury comments that are at best naive and at worse divisive.
Putting aside my "sensitivities" for one moment, do you honestly believe her comments help multi-culturism prosper in this country or are they more likely to drive a wedge between communities ?
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A Quiet Monkfish
Arbroath smokie . Mmmm!!
I love eggs and kippers in butter for breakfast
It tends to repeat on you during the day but there is a downside to everything
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Moodybluebird
I accept as a generality that life is easier for us than many black people but being overtly racist is unacceptable behaviour, especially for one in the public eye. Ms Abbott has a long history of making unsavoury comments that are at best naive and at worse divisive.
Putting aside my "sensitivities" for one moment, do you honestly believe her comments help multi-culturism prosper in this country or are they more likely to drive a wedge between communities ?
I don’t that’s why I said it’s stupid for her to say it but she’s not wrong and anyone being sensitive over it is doing so because they already don’t like her.
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Norman Tebbit , the swivel eyed loon liked going on about the cricket test
What a shining light for racial relations he was
He reckoned for those second generation west indian and Pakistani and indian people it was wrong for them to support the land of their forefathers and they should support England
Obviously white english people , born of English people living in spain always support spain and not england when the countries meet
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FFS,
I come home from work, check in on here for some footy related topics and it’s another politics soap box for a few bored fellas with nothing better to do.
Mike / moderators .......can you redirect these threads to the politics forum please.
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Dealing with this pandemic is not a right/left or Tory/Labour issue - it's about competence or lack of. Johnson (under Cummings' advice) has surrounded himself with a cabinet containing people like Hancock, Patel, Williamson, Rabb etc - all of whom would have been out of their depth as Parish councillors 20 years ago.
If we had May, Cameron, Brown, Blair, Major or even Thatcher as PM now, I daresay some mistakes would have been made but I'm sure we would have avoided the shameful, shambolic incompetence that currently embarrasses and endangers us.
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SLUDGE FACTORY
I love eggs and kippers in butter for breakfast
It tends to repeat on you during the day but there is a downside to everything
You can say that again
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Blue Tone
FFS,
I come home from work, check in on here for some footy related topics and it’s another politics soap box for a few bored fellas with nothing better to do.
Mike / moderators .......can you redirect these threads to the politics forum please.
Maybe just don’t click on the threads that don’t interest you. Or did you think the names in the title were potential target men? :hehe:
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BINGE THINKING
Dealing with this pandemic is not a right/left or Tory/Labour issue - it's about competence or lack of. Johnson (under Cummings' advice) has surrounded himself with a cabinet containing people like Hancock, Patel, Williamson, Rabb etc - all of whom would have been out of their depth as Parish councillors 20 years ago.
If we had May, Cameron, Brown, Blair, Major or even Thatcher as PM now, I daresay some mistakes would have been made but I'm sure we would have avoided the shameful, shambolic incompetence that currently embarrasses and endangers us.
Spot on.
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Hot Shot Hamish.
Spot on.
Agreed. I was about to start a rant but you have saved me the trouble. I haven’t missed football that much due to other priorities during this situation but I am longing to get some distraction from this shite show.
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Maybe just don’t click on the threads that don’t interest you. Or did you think the names in the title were potential target men? :hehe:
How about topics about politics being on the politics forum.
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Blue Tone
How about topics about politics being on the politics forum.
Why don’t you start a thread about football?
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This type of whataboutery is common and I just don't see the purpose.
Much as I detest Corbyn and co it is pointless to try and guess how they would have done.
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Vindec
Had Labour got in we would have had Corbyn, MacDonald and Abbot. An even more useless bunch.
I'm sure they would have played the same game and referred to medical and scientific experts , it's not like any politician has any experience of this type of incident.
All I hope were learning and ready for the next time the Chinese feck up ,because we will .
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life on mars
I'm sure they would have played the same game and referred to medical and scientific experts , it's not like any politician has any experience of this type of incident.
All I hope were learning and ready for the next time the Chinese feck up ,because we will .
Are you saying you are Chinese? :sherlock:
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life on mars
I'm sure they would have played the same game and referred to medical and scientific experts , it's not like any politician has any experience of this type of incident.
All I hope were learning and ready for the next time the Chinese feck up ,because we will .
The UK had what was considered the world's best pandemic response guidelines. The government didn't put it into action. Other countries, like Singapore, did put the UK's response into action and the difference is clear.
Saying the poor ickle politicians had never been through it before is absolutely no excuse. Even if it was, it's nearly June and their handling appears to be getting worse.
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life on mars
I'm sure they would have played the same game and referred to medical and scientific experts , it's not like any politician has any experience of this type of incident.
All I hope were learning and ready for the next time the Chinese feck up ,because we will .
Jacinda Ardern seems to have done alright. Different country admittedly.
Do you think Starmer could’ve done better than cuntwaffle (Boris)?
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lardy
The UK had what was considered the world's best pandemic response guidelines. The government didn't put it into action. Other countries, like Singapore, did put the UK's response into action and the difference is clear.
This is true, unfortunately our Government chose the economy.
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Why don’t you start a thread about football?
:wave:
:hehe:
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Blue Tone
:wave:
:hehe:
Argh good suggestion
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Moodybluebird
Thank God we will never find out !
Diane Abbott - How the hell did such a single cellular organism get into politics ?
I don't think that Boris and Co. have covered themselves in glory but having the 3 stooges at the helm would have been unthinkable.
I'm not particularly a fan of Diane Abbott, but the criticism she gets is ridiculous.
Daughter of immigrant parents who were a nurse and a welder, she managed to get into Cambridge and got a degree in History. If she had achieved nothing else in her life that would still have been very impressive given her background and the discrimination she must have received at the time.
Later she became Britain's first and longest serving black MP, and has been re-elected at 9 general elections, which I think is one more than Nigel Farage has tried and failed to become an MP at.
She had enough sense (and backbone, moral compass) to vote against the Iraq war when many others went placidly along with it.
But she once stumbled over a maths question when in a live radio interview, so people think she is stupid and worthless.
I strongly suspect that she has achieved a lot more in the face of a lot more adversity than you have. So if she is a "single celular organism" then what does that make you?
I've changed my mind, I am now definitely a fan of Diane Abbott
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Jordi Culé
Jacinda Ardern seems to have done alright. Different country admittedly.
Do you think Starmer could’ve done better than cuntwaffle (Boris)?
I think he is no pandemic expert , neither is any other politician, and with great respect were the medical experts and scientists , it's an unknown matter for everyone, next time it won't be as we would have learned so much from this pandemic.
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life on mars
I think he is no pandemic expert , neither is any other politician, and with great respect were the medical experts and scientists , it's an unknown matter for everyone, next time it won't be as we would have learned so much from this pandemic.
This isn't the world's first pandemic. South Korea have done so well because they've been through it before and they knew they needed to act quickly.
To say it's an unknown matter for everyone is absolute rubbish. The UK had the best pandemic response in the world. Asian countries followed it with success. The current UK government did not. This failure is on them. Don't absolve them by pretending that everyone was taken by surprise.
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Priti is pretty .
Mogg though very horsey I know a few lads who would ,they love that horsey look .
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This isn't the world's first pandemic. South Korea have done so well because they've been through it before and they knew they needed to act quickly.
To say it's an unknown matter for everyone is absolute rubbish. The UK had the best pandemic response in the world. Asian countries followed it with success. The current UK government did not. This failure is on them. Don't absolve them by pretending that everyone was taken by surprise.
Tell that to the dead , all those stupid advisors , medics ,scientists in the world , what do they know, they should step down and let ordinary folk step up and take the reins
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life on mars
Tell that to the dead , all those stupid advisors , medics ,scientists in the world , what do they know, they should step down and let ordinary folk step up and take the reins
What on earth are you talking about?
When you're ill, do you go to a doctor or 'ordinary folk'?
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life on mars
Priti is pretty .
Mogg though very horsey I know a few lads who would ,they love that horsey look .
It's obvious which picture you're refering to and that's actually Rishi Sunak :hehe:
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Tell that to the dead , all those stupid advisors , medics ,scientists in the world , what do they know, they should step down and let ordinary folk step up and take the reins
Seeing this video made me think of this post.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Floridians angrily claiming masks are the work of the devil because “they want to throw God’s wonderful breathing system out the door.” <a href="https://t.co/5pDzU8ncwY">pic.twitter.com/5pDzU8ncwY</a></p>— John Aravosis ️* (@aravosis) <a href="https://twitter.com/aravosis/status/1275854598146871296?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 24, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>