Snowflakes want to ban Delilah now...jeez

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Originally Posted by elytillidie

I don't think many knew of it's slave association when it started. I believe it was first sung as a play on words to Martin 'Chariots' Offiah when a large white, mostly middle class crowd were singing it in praise of him, a black man.

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Indeed

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

It is of course true that the song was sung in praise of martin offiah and chris Oti who were known as chariots for their speed but it is a slavery song . Are english rugby fans racist ? Certainly no more so than welsh rugby fans

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Oh I know, I'm not suggesting it's a crowd full of racists singing it, most of them probably have no idea it's a slave song. It's just a weird thing to sing at a sports event that's all, same as Delilah

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

And of course it must be stated that lots of other black people will be offended by the song, unlike webby

Gerald Cordle when playing for cardiff against neath was called a monkey so jumped into the crowd and handed out some justice . He was clearly offended by the remark and didnt need anyone to be offended on his behalf .

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So, I won't get offended on behalf of all the people who don't want me to be offended on their behalf, and will respect, and won't be offended by anyone who gets offended on behalf of people who do want them to be offended on their behalf. And good on Gerald Cordle too, never heard of that incident, great stuff.

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Originally Posted by kendoddsdadsdogsdead

...what?...if you say you're English these days , they throw you in prison?

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In jail? They will actually throw you in jail? Just for saying you're English?

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Originally Posted by kendoddsdadsdogsdead

..saying if Swing Low is banned then a song about someone killing a woman because she laughed at him should be too...
It's not real life you *****

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Who said it's snowflakes? Use of such language is only divisive to society.

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Originally Posted by kendoddsdadsdogsdead

...what?...if you say you're English these days , they throw you in prison?

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If you really believe that, I'd seek immediate help. This ranks among the most stupid comments I've ever read.

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Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee

If you really believe that, I'd seek immediate help. This ranks among the most stupid comments I've ever read.

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https://youtu.be/XkCBhKs4faI

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

It is of course true that the song was sung in praise of martin offiah and chris Oti who were known as chariots for their speed but it is a slavery song . Are english rugby fans racist ? Certainly no more so than welsh rugby fans

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But all rugby teams used to sing it regardless of race until the English "stole" it as their unofficial anthem.

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Originally Posted by xsnaggle

But all rugby teams used to sing it regardless of race until the English "stole" it as their unofficial anthem.

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It used to be sung in rugby clubs up and down the country post match for years (way before Martin Offiah) with bawdy pantomime like actions to the lyrics.

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Originally Posted by splott parker

It used to be sung in rugby clubs up and down the country post match for years (way before Martin Offiah) with bawdy pantomime like actions to the lyrics.

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You are correct, I'm not too well up on rugby folklore, and took it at face value when I read about it being started at Twickenham. The puerile hand gestures rang a bell, pathetic, but harmless. I briefly looked into the song here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swing_Low,_Sweet_Chariot . From my understanding, white people embracing this song is a positive thing. Just my opinion. I'm sure anyone who wants it banned has good intentions, but genuinely feel that, as well as being unenforceable, it's counter productive.

In 1939, Nazi Germany's Reich Music Examination Office added the song to a listing of "undesired and harmful" musical works.[6]

The song enjoyed a resurgence during the 1960s Civil Rights struggle and the folk revival; it was performed by a number of artists. Perhaps the most famous performance during this period was that by Joan Baez during the legendary 1969 Woodstock festival.

Seems the Nazi's were politically correct and Joan Baez is a racist?

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Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee

If you really believe that, I'd seek immediate help. This ranks among the most stupid comments I've ever read.

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Whoosh!