British Sprinter And Her Black Boyfriend Stopped By The Police .....

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Originally Posted by Welshcake.

Sorry I was also wrong, it's 40x in England and Wales...perhaps you can take up the poorness of the reporting with the MSM reporting it, thanks.

https://www.theguardian.com/law/2019...ow-racial-bias

up from 9x:
https://www.itv.com/news/2018-10-14/...-drugs-report/

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Dont quote facts on here mate , you are playing the race card

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Originally Posted by Llandaff Blue

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Let's just say either you people are burying your heads in the sand as white people ....or maybe the accusations by some that you are being a bit ignorant holds water

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Originally Posted by life on mars

in a prodementlay black area yes, before all this , ,people were asking why black youths were knifing each other in London

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In cardiff which is not predominantly black in any area , you are 7 times more likely to be stopped by the police

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Originally Posted by jon1959

An interesting viewpoint - and one that defies all the data.

Do you think racial profiling is racist?

I assume you don't as you have already got to the argument that 'black people' commit x times more crime (knife crime is just an example) therefore should be x times more targeted by the police. In my innocence I thought criminals committed x times more crime so the police should use objective intelligence (not stereotypes and plain prejudice) to target criminals!

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Not 'should', but 'are', big difference. I had an issue with the original post quoting statistics without context.

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Originally Posted by Llandaff Blue

You haven't disproved anything, you've essentially made the same comment twice. Without looking at the crime statistics this stat is as useful as me saying 'men more likely to be stopped than women'

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Yes , I think those figures clearly show hes just nit picking

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

Yes , I think those figures clearly show hes just nit picking

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I'm waiting for you to quote my other comment which said I do not dispute the figures

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Originally Posted by Llandaff Blue

I'm waiting for you to quote my other comment which said I do not dispute the figures

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So black people are stopped due to their race more often than white people then ?

Well you agree then that this is racial profiling then

That was supposed to end after the stephen lawrence enquiry which was a black guy being hacked to death by a gang of white blokes

Why are white blokes in predominantly white areas of london not stopped in the same numbers black blokes are stopped in predominantly black areas ?

BBC News - Bianca Williams stop: Police 'want to discuss sprinter's concerns'
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-53307555


Interesting comments from stephen Lawrence's mother

Who'd be a policeman these days? Must be the most thankless job.

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

So black people are stopped due to their race more often than white people then ?

Well you agree then that this is racial profiling then

That was supposed to end after the stephen lawrence enquiry which was a black guy being hacked to death by a gang of white blokes

Why are white blokes in predominantly white areas of london not stopped in the same numbers black blokes are stopped in predominantly black areas ?

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Because they aren't stabbing each other

Why were poor white kids stopped in Glasgow during their knife endemic in the mid 2000s? Because they were the ones stabbing each other. Let me ask you, is that racist?

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Originally Posted by Gofer Blue

Who'd be a policeman these days? Must be the most thankless job.

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Yeah forcing a woman out of her car with her young baby must be very difficult , I would imagine they need counselling to get over it

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Originally Posted by Llandaff Blue

Because they aren't stabbing each other

Why were poor white kids stopped in Glasgow during their knife endemic in the mid 2000s? Because they were the ones stabbing each other. Let me ask you, is that racist?

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You dont think there is a problem with knife crime in predominantly white areas of london ?

Tell me you are having a laugh

Thamesmead ?

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

You dont think there is a problem with knife crime in predominantly white areas of london ?

Tell me you are having a laugh

Thamesmead ?

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Are you on a windup?

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

You dont think there is a problem with knife crime in predominantly white areas of london ?

Tell me you are having a laugh

Thamesmead ?

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give me the knife crime statistic for thamesmead please I want to show you something

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Originally Posted by Llandaff Blue

give me the knife crime statistic for thamesmead please I want to show you something

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Thamesmead is the estate from where the white guys who stabbed stephen lawrence to death were from

It's got appalling levels of knife crime and the area is predominantly white

As is wales , which is predominantly white and where knife crime has gone up by 23 percent in 2 years

South bermondsey , welling , millwall territory , knife crime

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

Thamesmead is the estate from where the white guys who stabbed stephen lawrence to death were from

It's got appalling levels of knife crime and the area is predominantly white

As is wales , which is predominantly white and where knife crime has gone up by 23 percent in 2 years

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JR is right, you are stuck in another decade.

Here's Thamesmead's demographics

Black or Black British- 42.9%

White 42.4%

Asian or Asian British 7.8%

Mixed Race 5.3%

"predominately white", were you looking at the 1980 census you absolute relic

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Originally Posted by Llandaff Blue

JR is right, you are stuck in another decade.

Here's Thamesmead's demographics

Black or Black British- 42.9%

White 42.4%

Asian or Asian British 7.8%

Mixed Race 5.3%

"predominately white", were you looking at the 1980 census you absolute relic

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Its had massive immigration since the days of the stephen lawrence murder when it was predominantly white

What was it u wanted to show me ?

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

Its had massive immigration since the days of the stephen lawrence murder when it was predominantly white

What was it u wanted to show me ?

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that.

you said the area has a knife crime problem and it's predominately white. unreal

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Originally Posted by Llandaff Blue

Are you on a windup?

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So you dont think there is a knife problem in predominantly white areas of london

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Originally Posted by Llandaff Blue

that.

you said the area has a knife crime problem and it's predominately white. unreal

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Well it was and it did and it still has

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

So you dont think there is a knife problem in predominantly white areas of london

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dunno, do you have anything from the modern day to show me?

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Originally Posted by Llandaff Blue

dunno, do you have anything from the modern day to show me?

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https://www.fromthemurkydepths.co.uk...point-robbery/

First search , white guy , thamesmead , woolwich , Greenwich

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

https://www.fromthemurkydepths.co.uk...point-robbery/

First search , white guy , thamesmead , woolwich , Greenwich

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we've gone over this, thamesmead is not predominately white. wake up sludge it's 2020

If you're going to post single issues rather than statistics on knife crime then don't bother wasting your time cause I won't reply.

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Originally Posted by Llandaff Blue

we've gone over this, thamesmead is not predominately white. wake up sludge it's 2020

If you're going to post single issues rather than statistics on knife crime then don't bother wasting your time cause I won't reply.

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Well to be fair to you , people have provided you with statistics regarding stop and search and in your opinion they were not worthy of comment so you wont be breaking the habit of a lifetime

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

Well to be fair to you , people have provided you with statistics regarding stop and search and in your opinion they were not worthy of comment so you wont be breaking the habit of a lifetime

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'people' it was one person, and I said looking at stop and search statistics without looking at crime statistics is pointless.

Let me know when you've entered 2020

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Originally Posted by Llandaff Blue

'people' it was one person, and I said looking at stop and search statistics without looking at crime statistics is pointless.

Let me know when you've entered 2020

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Why is looking at stop and search figures without looking at crime statistics pointless ?

https://www.south-wales.police.uk/en/knife-crime/

Here is an operation which I am sure you and me both support which south wales police has brought in to tackle knife crime

Do you think that south wales police arrests for knife crime are dominated in the statistics by black people ?

Considering we only have a sizeable black community in cardiff who do you think is responsible for knife crime in the rest of the south wales police area ?

I would suggest its white people

Therefore why is it a black person is 7 times more likely to be stopped in south wales by the police than a white person ?

Are the police a bunch of nazis ? Clearly not , but there is obviously something that needs to be addressed, would you agree ?

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

Why is looking at stop and search figures without looking at crime statistics pointless ?

https://www.south-wales.police.uk/en/knife-crime/

Here is an operation which I am sure you and me both support which south wales police has brought in to tackle knife crime

Do you think that south wales police arrests for knife crime are dominated in the statistics by black people ?

Considering we only have a sizeable black community in cardiff who do you think is responsible for knife crime in the rest of the south wales police area ?

I would suggest its white people

Therefore why is it a black person is 7 times more likely to be stopped in south wales by the police than a white person ?

Are the police a bunch of nazis ? Clearly not , but there is obviously something that needs to be addressed, would you agree ?

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It's pointless and tells you nothing. If you look at it in isolation you'd think it's racial, then when you look at knife crime then you understand why it's done. Glasgow did the exact same thing, looked at the areas of where the stabbings were taking place and tried to tackle the issue that way. The perpetrators were poor white people so I doubt you think racial profiling was happening there.

I do support the idea of that operation, if SW police focus on the community and issues that lead to knife crime then brilliant, it'll do more than any stop and search will (as Glasgow eventually found out) bit I am not going to guess which ethnicity is committing more knife crime without statistics, it's utterly pointless (as proven by you jumping to a conclusion about white people with zero reasoning)

Something needs to be done yes, it's no surprise that since fewer police are out and about the crime rates have gone up as well as cuts to other public services.

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

BBC News - Bianca Williams stop: Police 'want to discuss sprinter's concerns'
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-53307555


Interesting comments from stephen Lawrence's mother

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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...ling-grenfell/

That mother you mean ?

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

BBC News - Bianca Williams: 'I've never had to experience anything like this', says British sprinter after police stop car
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/athletics/53305712

There is of course no suggestion whatsoever that this couple were stopped because they were black

Well that's according to the police

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If the police version of events is correct then they should have been stopped.

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Originally Posted by Llandaff Blue

it's outrageous this couple were racially profiled through tinted windows. officers should be sacked

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Originally Posted by trampie09

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...ling-grenfell/

That mother you mean ?

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That is utterly disgraceful (from, her not you) !!!
Those brave boys & girls, put their lives on the line, to have an accusation like that aimed at them, with no means of defence, is the lowest of the low.
I don’t normally get involved in threads like this, as most posters are just “point scoring” !!!! But her comments made my blood boil and doesn’t do anything to help, anyone’s fight against racism.

And she is a baroness.

Are the statistics showing knife crime to be a predominantly black person issue skewed due to the racial profiling and far higher chance of being searched and caught with a knife or its it the other way round?

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Originally Posted by Welshcake.

Are the statistics showing knife crime to be a predominantly black person issue skewed due to the racial profiling and far higher chance of being searched and caught with a knife or its it the other way round?

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Interesting point - however if you are 40 times more likely to be searched if you are black you wonder what thinking is behind carrying a knife in the first place.

There was a murder in Portobello Road last week - which is about a mile away from this incident old bill have been on high alert and patrolling the area....She should have just got out the car and let the old bill do what they got to do and work with the community.
There was also a 2 year old boy who got shot in the head along with his mother about 2 miles away in Harlesden a few weeks back, knife and gun crime is off the scale right now in W.London so the community needs to work together because it might be your son or granddaughter who gets caught in the crossfire.

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Originally Posted by trampie09

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...ling-grenfell/

That mother you mean ?

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Yes that's her

The mother of a black kid murdered by white racists

I dont know what her basis for suggesting the fire brigade were guilty of racism on the night of grenfell was though

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Originally Posted by trampie09

If the police version of events is correct then they should have been stopped.

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The police said they smelt cannabis

If they did then they are supposed to swab the driver

Why didnt they do this ?

What other parts of the incident have they got wrong ?

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Originally Posted by trampie09

And she is a baroness.

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Our prime minister thinks black people have watermelon smiles , an extremely racially offensive term from the days of slavery in the deep south of the united states

That's our prime minister

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Originally Posted by dembethewarrior

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What if the police thought there is a fast car with tinted windows , it's a drugs dealer , let's stop them

They were right that the couple were black but after saying they smelt cannabis no swab test was carried out on the driver