Harris - A Poundland Neil Warnock

so what does that make Warnock? He took us down to 14th

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Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa

Hughes and Pulis :hehe:

Mate, you've over trolled there.

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The OP is a very poor effort, so transparent, then hes massively overcooked it by throwing Pulis in there.

I know hes trolling but I cant see any other Harris thread so ima say my two penneth here.

Hes done a fantastic job thus far, far better than anyone prediced he would. We had no business making the play-offs from where we were when he took us over and the feeling around the football club at that time.

His wasnt an exciting appointment but over time the style has got more pleasing on the eye and certainly since the restart weve scored some fantastic goals from open play.

He deserves credit for turning our season around and I certainly wont be turning on him because we were beaten by a side who lets be honest have better players. We needed them to be a little off their game and everyone on our game to get a result, like the Leeds game at the start of restart, but certainly after the 1st water break and 1st quarter of the 2nd half Fulham were bang on their game whilst we had too many players who were off the pace last night. NML and Hoilett were very poor and Reed did a job on Tomlin. Ironically the Mitrovic injury probably helped them more than it helped us. Morrison would have been preparing for a physical battle but instead Fulham played even more intricate football than they usually do.

It would have been nice to get promotion but our squad isnt good enough for the Premier League and would need major surgery just to be competitive so its not the end of the world that we are not going to go up this year. Let Harris bring 2/3 of his own players in and we can go again next year.

I look forward to next year in the Championship evolving further our style of play and winning more football matches than we will lose.

Neil Harris Barmy Army:ayatollah:

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Originally Posted by J R Hartley

I know hes trolling but I cant see any other Harris thread so ima say my two penneth here.

Hes done a fantastic job thus far, far better than anyone prediced he would. We had no business making the play-offs from where we were when he took us over and the feeling around the football club at that time.

His wasnt an exciting appointment but over time the style has got more pleasing on the eye and certainly since the restart weve scored some fantastic goals from open play.

He deserves credit for turning our season around and I certainly wont be turning on him because we were beaten by a side who lets be honest have better players. We needed them to be a little off their game and everyone on our game to get a result, like the Leeds game at the start of restart, but certainly after the 1st water break and 1st quarter of the 2nd half Fulham were bang on their game whilst we had too many players who were off the pace last night. NML and Hoilett were very poor and Reed did a job on Tomlin. Ironically the Mitrovic injury probably helped them more than it helped us. Morrison would have been preparing for a physical battle but instead Fulham played even more intricate football than they usually do.

It would have been nice to get promotion but our squad isnt good enough for the Premier League and would need major surgery just to be competitive so its not the end of the world that we are not going to go up this year. Let Harris bring 2/3 of his own players in and we can go again next year.

I look forward to next year in the Championship evolving further our style of play and winning more football matches than we will lose.

Neil Harris Barmy Army:ayatollah:

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Agree with this post, plus on a personal level I would rather us go up next season or season after when there is a guarantee crowds can return.

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Originally Posted by J R Hartley

The OP is a very poor effort, so transparent, then hes massively overcooked it by throwing Pulis in there.

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Yeah, that would be the same Pulis who took Stoke up, and established them in the Premier league.

And the same Pulis who was Premier League manager of the year in 2013-14, for the fantastic job he did at Palace.

Throw in the fact he’s a Newport lad who used to come and watch us as a boy, and I’d take that CV with someone who clearly has an affinity to the club, as opposed to the others, who just want a pay cheque.

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Originally Posted by Bluebird23

Absolute dross, no passion or desire whatsoever, it was embarrassing.

First 20 minutes apart, this was like a training game for Fulham who hardly had to get out of first gear, and deserved the win.

This was a Fulham side that struggled to get a point at Wigan last week, and were without the divisions top scorer.

How can we play such an important game at home, and after going one down, not even force the opposition keeper to make a save in the next 44 minutes? As soon as Fulham scored, their heads went down, there was no passion, fight or desire to make a game of it.

I don’t rate Harris at all, and I can’t understand some supporters or the media’s, love in with him.

I can’t respect a manager who described Ralls as a ‘Superstar’, and Glatzel ‘one of the best finishers I’ve ever worked with.’

Harris is no miracle worker, as he and some of the media try to paint him. Regardless of a couple of poor signings by Warnock, this was a squad easily good enough to make the Playoffs, in a poor quality division. Just look at our bench tonight, around £20 million of players, most of who would get in to other Championship starting sides.

If you want to see managers who’ve genuinely done fantastic jobs on limited resources in the Championship, look at Cooper at Swansea, and Rowatt at Millwall. Both have been exceptional.

Rowatt took a dire Millwall team that Harris left in a relegation fight, and transformed them to Playoff contenders, up to the last week.

Cooper saw Swansea sell their better players like McBurnie and James, a whole stack of injuries, but still took them in to the Playoffs. He had to stick a couple of young players on the bench, last night.

In the window Cooper added decent loan players who made an impact, in Gallagher and Brewster. Harris added err, Smith and Sanderson.

The local media rarely ask a challenging question. But I wish one of them has the balls to ask Harris why he picked such a negative side, and started Pack?

The improved form post break was based on Pack being dropped, and Vaulks replacing him. Since then Vaulks has been one of our better players, offering far more energy and attacking contribution around the pitch.

Pack is slow, one paced and offers nothing. He was playing deeper at times tonight, than Morrison.

He let Onomah walk around him for the opening goal, and offered nothing all game. Even worse, as terrible as he was, Harris left him on to play the whole game!

Personally, I’d like to never to see Glatzel and Pack, in a City shirt again.

A half decent centre forward would have had one, or even two goals in the first half.

Time and time again, we’ve seen that Glatzel isn’t physically strong enough at this level, and isn’t a decent finisher. We will never get our money back on him, when he leaves.

Throw in Harris’s cringeable Landaan barrow boy interviews and some of the crap he comes out with, and he makes me want to give my season ticket a miss next season.

One man to blame for that shite tonite, Neil Harris.

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AH another one that pop up only when we lose a game, been very quiet since the restart huh?

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Originally Posted by J R Hartley

I know hes trolling but I cant see any other Harris thread so ima say my two penneth here.

Hes done a fantastic job thus far, far better than anyone prediced he would. We had no business making the play-offs from where we were when he took us over and the feeling around the football club at that time.

His wasnt an exciting appointment but over time the style has got more pleasing on the eye and certainly since the restart weve scored some fantastic goals from open play.

He deserves credit for turning our season around and I certainly wont be turning on him because we were beaten by a side who lets be honest have better players. We needed them to be a little off their game and everyone on our game to get a result, like the Leeds game at the start of restart, but certainly after the 1st water break and 1st quarter of the 2nd half Fulham were bang on their game whilst we had too many players who were off the pace last night. NML and Hoilett were very poor and Reed did a job on Tomlin. Ironically the Mitrovic injury probably helped them more than it helped us. Morrison would have been preparing for a physical battle but instead Fulham played even more intricate football than they usually do.

It would have been nice to get promotion but our squad isnt good enough for the Premier League and would need major surgery just to be competitive so its not the end of the world that we are not going to go up this year. Let Harris bring 2/3 of his own players in and we can go again next year.

I look forward to next year in the Championship evolving further our style of play and winning more football matches than we will lose.

Neil Harris Barmy Army:ayatollah:

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Fantastic job, no right to be in the Playoffs?

Harris inherited a large squad with many players who’d just played in the Premier league, and almost stayed up. We were one of the bookies favourites for promotion.

Every time we were on SKY, they’d mention we had arguably the strongest subs bench in the division. Last night circa £20 million, sat on it.

A fantastic job is what Cooper has done at Swansea, and Rowatt at Millwall, with little to no resources. Not what Harris has done with an expensive, big squad.

Harris isn’t a good manager, and for a club with supposed premier league ambitions, he’s not the maanger who’ll every take a team up.

Everything about him last night was a loser, compared to Parker.

The way he dressed, the way he conducts himself in interviews, his lack of tactical tactical acumen.

Last night we were at home to a side who struggled to get a point at Wigan last week, and we made them look like Brazil. They were even without their best player, and we had just 22% possession second half, against an average side.

Losing I can handle. But the gutless, insipid performance with no heart or fight, I can’t.

Millwall couldn’t wait to get shot if him, and transformed their fortunes when he left.

I have no doubt, Warnock would have got us in the Playoffs.

I was one who was completely underwhelmed by Neil Harris' appointment and I still think the board has shown no ambition whatsoever. However, Harris has done a great job as far as I'm concerned with one hand tied behind his back.

Let's face it, apart from Tomlin, this squad is comprised of over valued journeymen and Fulham are way beyond us in terms of quality. Harris has done wonders to have even got us to the playoffs while slowly trying to improve a mediocre squad.

I definitely wouldn't have wanted Pulis here but I must admit I would have loved to have seen Jocanovic appointed but the board were always unlikely to have gone down that route because they knew he would have insisted on major funding for a complete overhaul. So in my opinion it's fair to criticize our dreadful board but Harris deserves a lot of credit.

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Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa

You and I don't always see eye to eye but at least we chat about football. Bluebird23 just wants to troll.

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Originally Posted by Bluebird23

Yeah, that would be the same Pulis who took Stoke up, and established them in the Premier league.

And the same Pulis who was Premier League manager of the year in 2013-14, for the fantastic job he did at Palace.

Throw in the fact he’s a Newport lad who used to come and watch us as a boy, and I’d take that CV with someone who clearly has an affinity to the club, as opposed to the others, who just want a pay cheque.

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2/10. Must try harder.

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Originally Posted by Bluebird23

Fantastic job, no right to be in the Playoffs?

Harris inherited a large squad with many players who’d just played in the Premier league, and almost stayed up. We were one of the bookies favourites for promotion.

Every time we were on SKY, they’d mention we had arguably the strongest subs bench in the division. Last night circa £20 million, sat on it.

A fantastic job is what Cooper has done at Swansea, and Rowatt at Millwall, with little to no resources. Not what Harris has done with an expensive, big squad.

Harris isn’t a good manager, and for a club with supposed premier league ambitions, he’s not the maanger who’ll every take a team up.

Everything about him last night was a loser, compared to Parker.

The way he dressed, the way he conducts himself in interviews, his lack of tactical tactical acumen.

Last night we were at home to a side who struggled to get a point at Wigan last week, and we made them look like Brazil. They were even without their best player, and we had just 22% possession second half, against an average side.

Losing I can handle. But the gutless, insipid performance with no heart or fight, I can’t.

Millwall couldn’t wait to get shot if him, and transformed their fortunes when he left.

I have no doubt, Warnock would have got us in the Playoffs.

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Even worse. 1/10. Poor effort.

Moan

Keep quiet when team is winning

Moan

Repeat

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Originally Posted by Dorcus

I was one who was completely underwhelmed by Neil Harris' appointment and I still think the board has shown no ambition whatsoever. However, Harris has done a great job as far as I'm concerned with one hand tied behind his back.

Let's face it, apart from Tomlin, this squad is comprised of over valued journeymen and Fulham are way beyond us in terms of quality. Harris has done wonders to have even got us to the playoffs while slowly trying to improve a mediocre squad.

I definitely wouldn't have wanted Pulis here but I must admit I would have loved to have seen Jocanovic appointed but the board were always unlikely to have gone down that route because they knew he would have insisted on major funding for a complete overhaul. So in my opinion it's fair to criticize our dreadful board but Harris deserves a lot of credit.

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3 years of Warnock ball on the back of 2 seasons of Russell Slade I think the apointment of Pulis would have pushed most people over the edge. Done nothing of note for years, he finds himself out of the game for a reason.

Bluebird23 - A Poundland TOBW

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Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa

Is there bollocks.

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The first two paragraphs are spot on

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Originally Posted by Splott-light...

Bluebird23 - A Poundland TOBW

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:hehe: :hehe: :hehe:

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Originally Posted by Bluebird23

Fantastic job, no right to be in the Playoffs?

Harris inherited a large squad with many players who’d just played in the Premier league, and almost stayed up. We were one of the bookies favourites for promotion.

Every time we were on SKY, they’d mention we had arguably the strongest subs bench in the division. Last night circa £20 million, sat on it.

A fantastic job is what Cooper has done at Swansea, and Rowatt at Millwall, with little to no resources. Not what Harris has done with an expensive, big squad.

Harris isn’t a good manager, and for a club with supposed premier league ambitions, he’s not the maanger who’ll every take a team up.

Everything about him last night was a loser, compared to Parker.

The way he dressed, the way he conducts himself in interviews, his lack of tactical tactical acumen.

Last night we were at home to a side who struggled to get a point at Wigan last week, and we made them look like Brazil. They were even without their best player, and we had just 22% possession second half, against an average side.

Losing I can handle. But the gutless, insipid performance with no heart or fight, I can’t.

Millwall couldn’t wait to get shot if him, and transformed their fortunes when he left.

I have no doubt, Warnock would have got us in the Playoffs.

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Swansea no resources?. Ayew is on more money than our 3 highest earners combinex in all probability.

Bluebird123 = A poundland Roathie

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Originally Posted by J R Hartley

Bluebird123 = A poundland Roathie

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That is being disrespectful to Poundland!

He makes that DML s posts seem reasonable and well thought out.

Wait till he sees the op.

Someone was bored at work last night.

Yes we had a bad second half yesterday and I would have liked a different starting 11 with the workrate of Bacuna and Vaulks in central midfield but we've improved loads under Harris and he deserves more time to change things.

Fulham was always going to be a difficult task if we didn't get the first goal. As the Sky stats showed if they score first they rarely drop points but if they concede first they struggle. Hopefully we can score first on Thursday.

Rowett's track record hasn't been to clever as of late either,just ask a Derby fan.He will probably repair his reputation at Millwall and move on at his earliest opportunity as he strikes me as a bit mercenary.I believe Harris had Millwall punching above their weight for a while before he left and is still held in high regard at that club.Neil Warnock was backed by this club from the day he entered it and it was his decision to leave the club and was not pushed so how you can say he would have got us promoted is beyond me.What I will say about Harris is like Malky and Warnock before him he will have a window to put right what he thinks will need doing but will find himself friendless if we don't get promoted automatically next season.Getting promoted by playing attractive football is something neither of his predecessors have managed so his job looks the biggest yet.

The OP has posted what I think is a classic knee jerk reaction which is why I tend not to post immediately after a defeat,however,this has been a decent thread to read with some excellent points made so I thank him for that.

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Originally Posted by Hilts

He makes that DML s posts seem reasonable and well thought out.

Wait till he sees the op.

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Honestly wouldn’t surprise me if they were the same person. Getting hysterical from polar opposite viewpoints.

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Originally Posted by Splott-light...

Bluebird23 - A Poundland TOBW

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Ouch!

I’m all for banter, but that’s below the belt! 😉

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Originally Posted by Splott-light...

Bluebird23 - A Poundland TOBW

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A Poundland TOBW would still be a decent poster. I was thinking more a Poundland Wales-Bales.

Bluebird23 is entitled to their opinion, but I wholeheartedly disagree with it.

Harris deserves a lot of praise for the success he's had. Fulham is a bad matchup for us. We've had really good performances against teams with a frailty at the back, but I thought Fulham defended exceptionally well.