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Re: Who is the best midfield playmaker we have ever had ?
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dml1954
Gibson was primarily a winger wasn't he, so therefore wouldn't qualify in the playmaker category but certainly one of the best wide players we ever had. Whittingham for me.
No, 'Gibbo,' was not a winger but a central midfielder / playmaker. He'd spray passes all over the place and land them on a sixpence. His swagger about the pitch showed a master-craftsman at work. The only one who came near him was Tony Currie (Sheff Utd).
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Re: Who is the best midfield playmaker we have ever had ?
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Steve the Tea
No, 'Gibbo,' was not a winger but a central midfielder / playmaker. He'd spray passes all over the place and land them on a sixpence. His swagger about the pitch showed a master-craftsman at work. The only one who came near him was Tony Currie (Sheff Utd).
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He was part of an excellent Coventry City midfield before he joined us.
Probably one of the most famous, if not THE most famous freekicks of all time was contrived by their midfielders Willie Carr and Ernie Hunt in 1970. I know Gibbo joined us in 1970 but did he play in that game ?
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Re: Who is the best midfield playmaker we have ever had ?
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NYCBlue
Does Jason Koumas count?
No.
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Re: Who is the best midfield playmaker we have ever had ?
The best that I’ve seen are 1st Ivor Allchurch, 2nd Ian Gibson, 3rd Whitt’s!
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Re: Who is the best midfield playmaker we have ever had ?
Can I pick two...
Ian Gibson and Kav
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Re: Who is the best midfield playmaker we have ever had ?
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cyril evans awaydays
Maybe not the best but Alan Campbell deserves a mention. Skillful with the ball and could pick a pass. Unlike some others mentioned had longevity with nearly 170 appearances.
I don’t remember him so much as a playmaker but a very competent midfield player who always did a good job when he played for us.
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Re: Who is the best midfield playmaker we have ever had ?
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sneggyblubird
This got me thinking of Doug Livermore.
Oh God no.
Now maybe I’m influence by my Dad here, as he always complained that Livermore only ever passed sideways (maybe a role model for Marlon Pack?!).
That said, Wikipedia describes Livermore as a ‘creative midfielder’ but that isn’t my recollection of him although I was only 11 when he arrived at the club 🤷*♂️
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Re: Who is the best midfield playmaker we have ever had ?
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SLUDGE FACTORY
Richard Carpenter wasn't a bad player for us in the lower leagues
Especially when you consider his lush musical arrangements and vocal harmonies.
He could have been a superstar......
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Re: Who is the best midfield playmaker we have ever had ?
No ones mentioned Gerry Francis
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Re: Who is the best midfield playmaker we have ever had ?
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Originally Posted by
Steve the Tea
In my 60 yrs watching City one stands out by a country mile ... Ian Gibson.
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Re: Who is the best midfield playmaker we have ever had ?
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BLUETIT
No ones mentioned Gerry Francis
And rightly so.
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Re: Who is the best midfield playmaker we have ever had ?
Surely Mel Sutton is the most technically accomplished football ever to wear the famous blue shirt.
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Re: Who is the best midfield playmaker we have ever had ?
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Moodybluebird
Surely Mel Sutton is the most technically accomplished football ever to wear the famous blue shirt.
I would hardly call him technically accomplished. He was a solid and reliable player adding balance to the other midfield players in the side. But Sutton was nowhere near the best midfield playmaker we have ever had.
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Re: Who is the best midfield playmaker we have ever had ?
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Vindec
I would hardly call him technically accomplished. He was a solid and reliable player adding balance to the other midfield players in the side. But Sutton was nowhere near the best midfield playmaker we have ever had.
My guess is that you have been :tumbleweed: on this one
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Re: Who is the best midfield playmaker we have ever had ?
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SLUDGE FACTORY
Fowler was useful
But in recent memory for me , box to box , with a share of goals , incisive passing and free kicks there is only one
Kav
The closest we've had isTomlin, the rest can't really be considered playmakers in the truest sense as the all covered different rolls. Koumas is up there as he'd make things tick, he'd receive the ball deep like Tomlin can and carry the ball into space. Mc Phail, Kav etc could play that deeper roll quite well, where they acted as a sort of free man infront of the defence.
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Re: Who is the best midfield playmaker we have ever had ?
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Moodybluebird
Surely Mel Sutton is the most technically accomplished football ever to wear the famous blue shirt.
That is a VERY bold statement! :-0
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Re: Who is the best midfield playmaker we have ever had ?
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Bobby Dandruff
That is a VERY bold statement! :-0
Oh come on Bobby, I thought you were more savvy than that !!
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Re: Who is the best midfield playmaker we have ever had ?
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Bobby Dandruff
Especially when you consider his lush musical arrangements and vocal harmonies.
He could have been a superstar......
do you think he was knocking off his sister ?
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Re: Who is the best midfield playmaker we have ever had ?
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Originally Posted by
BLUETIT
No ones mentioned Gerry Francis
Fat bastard
Not you , gerry
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Re: Who is the best midfield playmaker we have ever had ?
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Tuerto
The closest we've had isTomlin, the rest can't really be considered playmakers in the truest sense as the all covered different rolls. Koumas is up there as he'd make things tick, he'd receive the ball deep like Tomlin can and carry the ball into space. Mc Phail, Kav etc could play that deeper roll quite well, where they acted as a sort of free man infront of the defence.
Witts and Mcphail didn't have the tackling game kav had
Our very own gazza
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Re: Who is the best midfield playmaker we have ever had ?
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SLUDGE FACTORY
Witts and Mcphail didn't have the tackling game kav had
Our very own gazza
And a really nice guy too. I was privileged to have a longish talk to him about the play-off final win against QPR when I went to sort out my season ticket renewal. He said you wouldn't believe how hot it was in the stadium that day and how much it took out of all the players. Top man and a real footballer.
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Re: Who is the best midfield playmaker we have ever had ?
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Moodybluebird
And a really nice guy too. I was privileged to have a longish talk to him about the play-off final win against QPR when I went to sort out my season ticket renewal. He said you wouldn't believe how hot it was in the stadium that day and how much it took out of all the players. Top man and a real footballer.
He loved cardiff city , he said the fans were incredible to him and his family
I loved that time
And I was so pleased for Andy Campbell that day , another really nice guy he said he was out in town with the team at 4am and they couldn't go anywhere without people trying to hug him
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Re: Who is the best midfield playmaker we have ever had ?
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Moodybluebird
Surely Mel Sutton is the most technically accomplished football ever to wear the famous blue shirt.
Hey, good old, 'Spider.' Gave his all every game.
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Re: Who is the best midfield playmaker we have ever had ?
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Moodybluebird
Surely Mel Sutton is the most technically accomplished football ever to wear the famous blue shirt.
Exactly, the epitome of subtlety and silky skills. If there was any criticism of him it was his unwillingness to contravene the rules in the tackle .
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Re: Who is the best midfield playmaker we have ever had ?
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Rjk
take the rose tinted specs off guys. yes he was obviously going to be something special, and we all wanted him to succeed but to say he should have been first choice in what was a pretty strong midfield at that age is just daft.
For what it's worth I agree with you on this
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Re: Who is the best midfield playmaker we have ever had ?
Without the semantics and assuming 4-4-2 with 4 in midfield, then in terms of the best while playing for us I’d always go with Whitts. Honourable mentions for Dave Bennett and Kav.
If it’s the best who played for us once but did better before or after then it’s Ramsey hands down
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Re: Who is the best midfield playmaker we have ever had ?
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Enoch Mort
Exactly, the epitome of subtlety and silky skills. If there was any criticism of him it was his unwillingness to contravene the rules in the tackle .
Indeed Enoch. He was inconsolable when he once accidentally trod on the toes of an opponent and as a gesture of goodwill sent a bunch of flowers to the player's wife the very next day. It affected him so deeply, he needed counseling till the end of his career.
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Re: Who is the best midfield playmaker we have ever had ?
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the other bob wilson
If we're talking about all round midfield players, then Kav is there in contention among the best we've had in the last twenty five years certainly, but as a "play maker" as I understand the term? I'm not so sure.
Jason Fowler deserves a mention, but he would be easily beaten by the likes of the already mentioned Jason Koumas, as well as others such as Steve McPhail, Whitts and, on last season's form, Lee Tomlin.
Koumas was the best, and Ricky Schimica was awesome, but maybe not a playmaker?
