Re: The Elephant In The Room
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Originally Posted by
SLUDGE FACTORY
Can only speak personally
I am not friends with these people but where I live there are lots of people out selling poppies , all there for remembrance day and you read their Facebook feeds and its vote brexit , let's look after our soldiers before immigrants , white lives matter , all lives matter , one bloke locally dresses up with his mace and has done for years to honor the fallen then a few days later hes saying share this if you think all lives matter , bollocks about Enoch Powell and rivers of blood and he gets loads of thumbs up from people posting exactly the same rule Brittania bullshit . Black people and this protest are no threat to him . Where I live there are a few black and mixed race people and some black and mixed race kids and school kids . But for this bloke his most likely encounter with anyone black apart from the small number of black people who live in this town would be to go 14 miles in cardiff and walk round the docks , grange , canton Riverside or just go shopping walk along Queen Street a few times and he would plenty of black people . But this bloke lives in a town probably 99 percent white , And he rarely leaves . He just rants on Facebook and he's a racist . And there are loads of people like him and they are racists too . No pissing about , these people sometimes let slip with the odd comment but when anything crops up that stirs their prehistoric views , out comes the racism . Which of course they deny . But those of us locally who don't think like that know the score .
If you don't know these people how come you're on their face book pages?
Re: The Elephant In The Room
It should be up to the players. If they want to take the knee so be it. However, they shouldn't feel under pressure to do it.
Re: The Elephant In The Room
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Originally Posted by
Whisperer
Care to explain a bit more Sludge ?
yes , I dont agree with all of your post but you make fair points
I could chat with you about all this and we would probably agree on some things
I would never shout racist at someone who has differing views about this issue as they clearly not racist but a lot of these people who say ......all lives matter .....are missing the point on purpose , they are racists
But saying let's keep sport away from politics , the protest has gone on long enough , its an American problem are opinions and they are not coming from racists
Re: The Elephant In The Room
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Originally Posted by
xsnaggle
If you don't know these people how come you're on their face book pages?
I read them , they are open , a lot of peoples Facebook pages are open , I know these people from school , from the pub , from walking around town , this builder does a lot of work locally and I know lots of people locally whose political opinions are well known even more so in the age on the Internet, I dont associate with them , I dont talk to them they are not in my phone book but I know who they are and their views . Which is why they are not my friends .
Re: The Elephant In The Room
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Originally Posted by
Armitage Shanks
I agree its like the nhs clap.
Time to stop it as it will loose its meaning and end up a chore
...loose you say...
Re: The Elephant In The Room
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Originally Posted by
kendoddsdadsdogsdead
...loose you say...
Was it the barking and Romford toad ?
Re: The Elephant In The Room
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Originally Posted by
Peajay
'The Knee'
Point made and of course BLM but time to move on, how much longer?
Please dont reply with any racism, or accusations of. It's a genuine question.
Good luck with that request, your right as well.
Well done QPR and Matt Le Tissier
Re: The Elephant In The Room
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Originally Posted by
SLUDGE FACTORY
yes , I dont agree with all of your post but you make fair points
I could chat with you about all this and we would probably agree on some things
I would never shout racist at someone who has differing views about this issue as they clearly not racist but a lot of these people who say ......all lives matter .....are missing the point on purpose , they are racists
But saying let's keep sport away from politics , the protest has gone on long enough , its an American problem are opinions and they are not coming from racists
I hear you Sludge, what I would say is that the issues that are going on in the US of A are so so different to what goes on here, not to long ago in their history there was ugly scenes with lynch mobs, whereby there were strange fruit hanging in the trees, we have not experienced that sort of thing in our life time here in the UK. On the politics and football side of things can you imagine if the Irish were taking the knee for solidarity for the IRA, IMHO it's best to keep it all out of Football.
Re: The Elephant In The Room
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Originally Posted by
Whisperer
I hear you Sludge, what I would say is that the issues that are going on in the US of A are so so different to what goes on here, not to long ago in their history there was ugly scenes with lynch mobs, whereby there were strange fruit hanging in the trees, we have not experienced that sort of thing in our life time here in the UK. On the politics and football side of things can you imagine if the Irish were taking the knee for solidarity for the IRA, IMHO it's best to keep it all out of Football.
I think its going to slowly drift , whether thats right or wrong I dont know , has it brought out opinions yes , will the protests stop a police officer treating a person badly because they are black , impossible as whilst racism in the police and in wider society is more of an issue and people are more aware , racism will always exist
Re: The Elephant In The Room
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Originally Posted by
delmbox
is racism fixed then?
no and it never will be completely , what a stupid reply
Re: The Elephant In The Room
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Originally Posted by
robjohn44
no and it never will be completely , what a stupid reply
It certainly could be if we hounded out the racists. This thread is doing it's bit in this regard.
