Distraught at the lot of the suffering students

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I merely described the current situation that they find themselves in and certain developments that they will have no control over. I hardly suggested that they 'just throw the towel in'.

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C’mon TBG, you had plenty of accolades for that post. Sorry for denting your ego, but the only thing you left out of it was a plague of Locusts. 😁

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C’mon TBG, you had plenty of accolades for that post. Sorry for denting your ego, but the only thing you left out of it was a plague of Locusts. ��

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Jealous, eh?

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Jealous, eh?

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No. Just not a doom and gloom merchant. Now get back to your coco pops and breakfast TV. There's a good lad.

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No. Just not a doom and gloom merchant. Now get back to your coco pops and breakfast TV. There's a good lad.

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Oh oh oh oh well you, you get back to your pipe and slippers grandad, yeah.

Imagine getting so jealous of people agreeing with someone else that you have to try and burst their bubble. :hehe:

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Oh oh oh oh well you, you get back to your pipe and slippers grandad, yeah.

Imagine getting so jealous of people agreeing with someone else that you have to try and burst their bubble. :hehe:

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It’s called having a different opinion. TBG is old enough and ugly enough to look after himself on here. Don’t think he needs little arse lickers like you to defend him.

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It’s called having a different opinion. TBG is old enough and ugly enough to look after himself on here. Don’t think he needs little arse lickers like you to defend him.

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I haven't said anything in defence of TBG :shrug:

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C’mon TBG, you had plenty of accolades for that post. Sorry for denting your ego, but the only thing you left out of it was a plague of Locusts. 😁

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No ego involved, old fruit, and I wouldn't recommend that anyone tries my posterior for a morning snack 😊

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No ego involved, old fruit 😊

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Good to hear you old buzzard you.

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I haven't said anything in defence of TBG :shrug:

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Then why not just not add your opinion to the topic, instead of acting the smart arse?

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Then why not just not add your opinion to the topic, instead of acting the smart arse?

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I did. My opinion was that you seemed jealous.

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Good to hear you old buzzard you.

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I won't wish a plague on your house as we have enough to contend with as it is 😊

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There have been several students interviewed over the weekend who have bemoaned their lot - having to self-isolate because of the high numbers of Covid infections in their ranks. It seems that they have been so looking forward to 'Student Social Life', 'Freshers Week' etc and now they have been deprived of their frolics and fun. I wonder how folk like Agnes (who is in her seventies, at risk, and who hasn't been outside her front door since March) feel about the plight of students. And all the others whose lives have been put on hold for six months - and counting.

Seems to me that it's strange that so many super-intelligent young people have tested as virus-positive. Could it be that they are actually irresponsible or stupid - or both - to have become infected?

And now the poor lambs are up in arms because they can't go home at Xmas! Go home to spread the virus among their ageing parents and grand-parents. Like I say 'irresponsible and stupid'.

Will student rooms/campuses/accommodation become the new Care Homes?

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Have some empathy ffs. Kids who've moved away from home for the first time, been lied to that it would all be fine, just to extract rent money that amounts to thousands of pounds of debt they'll never pay off with increasingly bleak job prospects

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I am supportive of anything that preserves the Earths lifetime, and steers it away from being the greed ridden cess pit It’s become.

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I am supportive of anything that preserves the Earths lifetime, and steers it away from being the greed ridden cess pit It’s become.

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Fabulous! You're turning into a socialist in your old age...well done!

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Fabulous! You're turning into a socialist in your old age...well done!

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You don't have to be a socialist to care for the environment.

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You don't have to be a socialist to care for the environment.

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Quite true but you do if you dislike greed (which is the reason the environment is struggling anyway)

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There have been several students interviewed over the weekend who have bemoaned their lot - having to self-isolate because of the high numbers of Covid infections in their ranks. It seems that they have been so looking forward to 'Student Social Life', 'Freshers Week' etc and now they have been deprived of their frolics and fun. I wonder how folk like Agnes (who is in her seventies, at risk, and who hasn't been outside her front door since March) feel about the plight of students. And all the others whose lives have been put on hold for six months - and counting.

Seems to me that it's strange that so many super-intelligent young people have tested as virus-positive. Could it be that they are actually irresponsible or stupid - or both - to have become infected?

And now the poor lambs are up in arms because they can't go home at Xmas! Go home to spread the virus among their ageing parents and grand-parents. Like I say 'irresponsible and stupid'.

Will student rooms/campuses/accommodation become the new Care Homes?

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We should send them in some supplies of Cannabis as one such campus portrayed in a window , Universities have had since March to prepare for their arrival , bring together a safe system of work ,incredible ,as is the consumption of drugs and alcohol in normal times on these campuses .

And as you say these students are alleged the bright future surely they noticed Covid its impact on the vulnerable if one didn't act with some form of responsibility or different behavior in such dangerous times , but hey we can always blame someone else .

PS I'm sure there are a lot of well meaning students who have behaved well , bet if we drilled down we wouldn't be shocked at the usual suspects , in the knowledge it will make a headline and create a political vacuum .

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Imagine your 18, and you're not allowed to shag 8 people a week, after drinking 10 pints of lager!

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I would have thought that's not something you'd have to imagine

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Quite true but you do if you dislike greed (which is the reason the environment is struggling anyway)

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Nonsense. Socialism is as bad as capitalism.
We need a middle ground, but thats harder to find than a girlfriend for Sludge!

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I did. My opinion was that you seemed jealous.

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Aww bless.

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Nonsense. Socialism is as bad as capitalism.
We need a middle ground, but thats harder to find than a girlfriend for Sludge!

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Middle ground is rubbish; nothing beats socialism. I get a hard on just thinking about it.

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Middle ground is rubbish; nothing beats socialism. I get a hard on just thinking about it.

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Just because i mentioned Sludge. No need to start talking like him!

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Just because i mentioned Sludge. No need to start talking like him!

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Ha ha, now that's a fair point; I'm sure I couldn't compete with Sludge's hard ons anyway. Ooh missus!

I see a well behaved rave took place in Coventry UNI last night during which social distancing was observed throughout 🤣😂

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Middle ground is rubbish; nothing beats socialism. I get a hard on just thinking about it.

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That's the kind of thinking that loses Labour elections.

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That's the kind of thinking that loses Labour elections.

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No that's the sort of thinking that enrages Tories like you

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No that's the sort of thinking that enrages Tories like you

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It doesn't enrage me at all. I've said previously that, until things changed for me, I was a card carrying member of the Labour Party for very many years but it feels like only middle of the road socialism will ever get Labour elected and I believe Starmer realises that. Blair had to de - socialise the Party to become a Tory in disguise in order to get elected and it seems clear from the last election result that socialism is a real turn off for the British electorate. It might excite you but the voting public - the people that matter - disagrees.

So, the middle ground isn't rubbish. The middle ground gets political parties elected.

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It doesn't enrage me at all. I've said previously that, until things changed for me, I was a card carrying member of the Labour Party for very many years but it feels like only middle of the road socialism will ever get Labour elected and I believe Starmer realises that. Blair had to de - socialise the Party to become a Tory in disguise in order to get elected and it seems clear from the last election result that socialism is a real turn off for the British electorate. It might excite you but the voting public - the people that matter - disagrees.

So, the middle ground isn't rubbish. The middle ground gets political parties elected.

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You're under the mistaken impression things never change. The middle ground might well suit you, I dare say you're comfortably off, but it doesn't suit everyone. I think after seeing just how ineffective, unscrupulous and destructive capitalism is for the lives of so many, an awful lot of particularly younger people will refuse to accept the propaganda were constantly fed. Having witnessed the failure of this right wing government they will be more likely to accelerate the process.

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It doesn't enrage me at all. I've said previously that, until things changed for me, I was a card carrying member of the Labour Party for very many years but it feels like only middle of the road socialism will ever get Labour elected and I believe Starmer realises that. Blair had to de - socialise the Party to become a Tory in disguise in order to get elected and it seems clear from the last election result that socialism is a real turn off for the British electorate. It might excite you but the voting public - the people that matter - disagrees.

So, the middle ground isn't rubbish. The middle ground gets political parties elected.

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Spot on , and these revolutionised students will one day get good jobs, own houses, have families and become day raging capitalist Tories .

In the meantime , of course have fun students , but try and care for the vulnerable as well in this challenging times there is a deadly virus about .

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Good post. I am in a Whattsapp group with footballing friends we bonded together at Freshers Trials and beyond and have been the amongst the most loyal friends I have had in my life. Meeting people from different parts of the country, backgrounds in that first term was such an awakening and feel privileged to have been given the opportunity. A couple of my kids have been through this in normal times with similar outcomes.

We all have sympathy with the current generation who have gone through the debacle of A Level results. made it to university to be charged £5 grand for a cell for the year and get stigmatised as virus spreaders a couple of weeks after the government incentivise for people to eat out and socialise ended.

I can't get to my Mum in her care home as her life ebbs away but I don't blame students for that and knowing how proud she was that I was the first member of our family to make it to university she wouldn't either!

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But thats exactly what a lot of them are - virus spreaders who obviously couldn't care less about the rest of the population. They interviewed one young lady on tv last week in her ‘cell’ who was moaning about not being able to go out and missing all the freshers week activities, which she had worked so hard to achieve and then towards the end of the interview she coughed a few times and admitted that she was self isolating because she had been tested and had the bloody virus !! I really do despair at these people.

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You're under the mistaken impression things never change. The middle ground might well suit you, I dare say you're comfortably off, but it doesn't suit everyone. I think after seeing just how ineffective, unscrupulous and destructive capitalism is for the lives of so many, an awful lot of particularly younger people will refuse to accept the propaganda were constantly fed. Having witnessed the failure of this right wing government they will be more likely to accelerate the process.

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The trouble is that left wing/socialist politics has been soundly rejected by the population over the last 40 years and been found out to be more ineffective, unscrupulous and destructive. What sort of mess do you think that Corbyn/Labour would have made of the last six months.

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The trouble is that left wing/socialist politics has been soundly rejected by the population over the last 40 years and been found out to be more ineffective, unscrupulous and destructive. What sort of mess do you think that Corbyn/Labour would have made of the last six months.

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I was about to make a sarcastic comment but thought better of it.

As a Tory, how about you answer your own question?

What sort of mess do you think that Corbyn/Labour would have made of the last six months?

Every time this govt. is criticised, it's always "what about Labour/Corbyn?!" "Can you imagine if Corbyn had been in charge of this?!" Etc... But I've never seen anyone say what they think would have happened differently to make this situation so much worse

Have a crack at it, dml. What would Labour have done during the pandemic that would have been so much worse than how it's been handled already?

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The trouble is that left wing/socialist politics has been soundly rejected by the population over the last 40 years and been found out to be more ineffective, unscrupulous and destructive. What sort of mess do you think that Corbyn/Labour would have made of the last six months.

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Cannot possibly be worse than the current buffoon.
There would have probably been more a focus on people and less a focus on business.

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Spot on , and these revolutionised students will one day get good jobs, own houses

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I'd say that's far from a given

Why has politics been dragged into this?

Many students have the attitude that is rife in today's society (which has nothing to do with politics): "I am NOT and WILL NOT BE bound by rules".

Hence many do not socially distance - or object to wearing facemasks - or rail against being confined. They feel they above rules. It's a mindset.

Infection has been passed on among the student bodies because of stupidity and irresponsibility - least, that's what Agnes told me.

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Many students have the attitude that is rife in today's society (which has nothing to do with politics): "I am NOT and WILL NOT BE bound by rules".

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There's plenty of young people with this attitude and there's plenty who abide by the rules.

There's plenty of the older generation with this attitude and there's plenty who abide by the rules.

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Why has politics been dragged into this?

Many students have the attitude that is rife in today's society (which has nothing to do with politics): "I am NOT and WILL NOT BE bound by rules".

Hence many do not socially distance - or object to wearing facemasks - or rail against being confined. They feel they above rules. It's a mindset.

Infection has been passed on among the student bodies because of stupidity and irresponsibility - least, that's what Agnes told me.

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Let's be honest, there are a lot of people from the older generation with a sense of entitlement that prohibits them from following the rules too. To single out students in general is massively unfair.

Edit: Looks like Delmbox beat me to the punch.

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There's plenty of young people with this attitude and there's plenty who abide by the rules.
There's plenty of the older generation with this attitude and there's plenty who abide by the rules.

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Hence my comment that the attitude is 'rife in today's society'. :facepalm:

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The trouble is that left wing/socialist politics has been soundly rejected by the population over the last 40 years and been found out to be more ineffective, unscrupulous and destructive. What sort of mess do you think that Corbyn/Labour would have made of the last six months.

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There's nothing more ineffective, unscrupulous and destructive than capitalism and as I said previously you make a mistake if you rely upon the recent past to make your point.

I genuinely believe Corbyn/Labour would have made a better fist of things; for one they wouldn't have been so cavalier as this bunch of dopes. If you genuinely believe anyone (apart from the other right wing nutters) across the world (look at USA, India, Brazil) would have performed worse you need your head read. Come to think of it that wouldn't be a bad idea anyway.