Premier League non televised matches to be streamed as PPV

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Originally Posted by delmbox

Because whereas before say Liverpool vs Man Utd would have been picked for tv coverage, eventually with this model the big ones will probably go to PPV so more people will stream them illegally

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Why do you think that would happen? Sky have never given any indication of a desire to move to PPV. This is only happening to allow fans who would have gone to games the opportunity to see them. Once crowds are back at games, PPV will go again.

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Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee

Why do you think that would happen? Sky have never given any indication of a desire to move to PPV. This is only happening to allow fans who would have gone to games the opportunity to see them. Once crowds are back at games, PPV will go again.

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Hopefully you're right but usually when the opportunity to make money presents itself big businesses take it, especially once the consumer will be used to the idea of paying £15 per match. Then it's just a question of which matches

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Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee

Why do you think that would happen? Sky have never given any indication of a desire to move to PPV. This is only happening to allow fans who would have gone to games the opportunity to see them. Once crowds are back at games, PPV will go again.

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I’m not 100% about your last sentence. I’m sure if there are large enough viewing figures for the bigger clubs somebody, somewhere will be thinking ‘Hmmm. Hello...’

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Originally Posted by Jordi Culé

I’m not 100% about your last sentence. I’m sure if there are large enough viewing figures for the bigger clubs somebody, somewhere will be thinking ‘Hmmm. Hello...’

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The Premier League have instigated this, not any of the broadcasters. The clubs are keeping the profits, all the broadcasters get are costs.

We had Premiership Plus for a few seasons. That never particularly had great viewing figures as people were less than willing to spend extra on top of their subscription for less-than-glamorous fixtures. Sky axed it because it never performed as well as they had hoped. Viewing figures during lockdown will probably be decent, mainly from fans of both sides of a fixture who are unable to attend but broadcasters will know that once fans are allowed back into grounds, those figures will plummet drastically.

The only possible way PPV could be successful is for the very biggest games. As these are already part of a package offered by the PL, and the PL, Sky and BT know PPV could be successful, but haven't bothered, I don't see any possibility of PPV being introduced any time within many years.

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Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee

The Premier League have instigated this, not any of the broadcasters. The clubs are keeping the profits, all the broadcasters get are costs.

We had Premiership Plus for a few seasons. That never particularly had great viewing figures as people were less than willing to spend extra on top of their subscription for less-than-glamorous fixtures. Sky axed it because it never performed as well as they had hoped. Viewing figures during lockdown will probably be decent, mainly from fans of both sides of a fixture who are unable to attend but broadcasters will know that once fans are allowed back into grounds, those figures will plummet drastically.

The only possible way PPV could be successful is for the very biggest games. As these are already part of a package offered by the PL, and the PL, Sky and BT know PPV could be successful, but haven't bothered, I don't see any possibility of PPV being introduced any time within many years.

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If Sky can sell Whyte v Povetkin then they can sell Everton v Wolves.

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Originally Posted by Hilts

If Sky can sell Whyte v Povetkin then they can sell Everton v Wolves.

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They never used to be able to. What has changed?

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Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee

The Premier League have instigated this, not any of the broadcasters. The clubs are keeping the profits, all the broadcasters get are costs.

We had Premiership Plus for a few seasons. That never particularly had great viewing figures as people were less than willing to spend extra on top of their subscription for less-than-glamorous fixtures. Sky axed it because it never performed as well as they had hoped. Viewing figures during lockdown will probably be decent, mainly from fans of both sides of a fixture who are unable to attend but broadcasters will know that once fans are allowed back into grounds, those figures will plummet drastically.

The only possible way PPV could be successful is for the very biggest games. As these are already part of a package offered by the PL, and the PL, Sky and BT know PPV could be successful, but haven't bothered, I don't see any possibility of PPV being introduced any time within many years.

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Fully agree with your last sentence, the current commercial benefits of their current tv deal and marketing of the Premier League will sustain the current format for a good while yet but...

Theoretically (and it’s a very loose theory) could a club like Liverpool, Man United in the future host their own TV matches via whatever platform, making it globally available and charge for viewing? Would it be profitable for them? I wonder how many global viewers could a Man United v Liverpool match could attract? My initial post wondered if the PPV model is a dangerous precedent? It’s obviously being done to supplement falling income. It would be interesting if some clubs feel it could generate more income for themselves individually rather than the collective TV deal they have now? Perhaps some clubs would market games jointly?

My initial post was wondering out aloud about allowing PPV for individual matches and clubs and the impact this could have on smaller leagues and clubs in the future.

All the above mind could be absolute drivel:biggrin: