Harris - in or out?

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Originally Posted by Vindec

Apart from the brief post lockdown period we have been poor under Harris. When you look at the type of football played under Dave Jones for example you realise how imbalanced and shockingly poor this current team is. Under Warnock we were not attractive but at least we got results. Under Harris we are neither attractive nor effective. With a new manager supporters expected hoofball to end and a brand of more attractive football. But appointing Harris meant we got Warnock Mk2 without the results.

I voted "Out" with the proviso a suitable candidate could be found. And there lies the problem. Anyone thinking Eddie Howe would come to Cardiff is being unrealistic.

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We didn't get results at the start of last season.

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Originally Posted by LeningradCowboy

We didn't get results at the start of last season.

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I said "Under Warnock ...................at least we got results". Warnock was our manager when we got promoted. Is that inaccurate? We were also relegated under Warnock but that was always going to be the case. I would only vote Harris "out" if a suitable replacement could be found but I don't think anyone suitable such as an Eddie Howe would agree to come.

For those that voted in, I’ll remind you this is a manager who....

*Called Ralls a ‘Superstar.’ (How far backwards has he gone this season).

*Said Glatzel was ‘One of the best finishers I’ve ever worked with.’ (Yet, he went out and bought a new striker and stuck Glatzel on the bench. No goals in 12, doesn’t remotely look like scoring.)

* Gave a new contract to Tomlin, then came out and said ‘He’ll have to be managed carefully for the rest of his career, to get him on the pitch.’ (Yes, he’s provided the spark on occasion. But he continually looks out of shape and isn’t a player you can rely on week in, week out).

I agree Eddie Howe is unrealistic.

But Jokanovic may not be, and I wouldn’t mind Nigel Pearson. He’d take no crap from the shirkers in this squad.

I don’t think the players have the respect for him, like they did Warnock.

And to those who voted out remember this is the manager who got a team struggling in the league to 5th , got the best out of Lee Tomlin and the best away record in the country.

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Originally Posted by Bluebird23

For those that voted in, I’ll remind you this is a manager who....

*Called Ralls a ‘Superstar.’ (How far backwards has he gone this season).

*Said Glatzel was ‘One of the best finishers I’ve ever worked with.’ (Yet, he went out and bought a new striker and stuck Glatzel on the bench. No goals in 12, doesn’t remotely look like scoring.)

* Gave a new contract to Tomlin, then came out and said ‘He’ll have to be managed carefully for the rest of his career, to get him on the pitch.’ (Yes, he’s provided the spark on occasion. But he continually looks out of shape and isn’t a player you can rely on week in, week out).

I agree Eddie Howe is unrealistic.

But Jokanovic may not be, and I wouldn’t mind Nigel Pearson. He’d take no crap from the shirkers in this squad.

I don’t think the players have the respect for him, like they did Warnock.

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Warnock paid the earth for Tomlin and Glatzel and put them on very good contracts we are still suffering the aftermath of his inept signings

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Originally Posted by stan butler

Warnock paid the earth for Tomlin and Glatzel and put them on very good contracts we are still suffering the aftermath of his inept signings

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Not sure about paying the earth for Tomlin but never used him before the Harris haters saw his talent. The money that Warnock spunked away on Gary Madine would have got some managers where the owners were focused on the profit and loss account alone. Still allowed to buy Glatzel, Flint, Pack et al squandering most of the parachute payments on some kind of surreal jigsaw.

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Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays

Not sure about paying the earth for Tomlin but never used him before the Harris haters saw his talent. The money that Warnock spunked away on Gary Madine would have got some managers where the owners were focused on the profit and loss account alone. Still allowed to buy Glatzel, Flint, Pack et al squandering most of the parachute payments on some kind of surreal jigsaw.

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He was signing players then never played them he's done it everywhere he's gone and he will do it at Boro if allowed..

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Originally Posted by Vindec

Of course. Read the first few words of the post you quote. Had it not been for that brief period of form we would not have got in the play offs.

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So, what you are saying is - if we hadn't won so many games at the end of the season we wouldn't have been in the play offs. Brilliant observational skills and game analysis there.

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Originally Posted by 2b2bdoo

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Paul Cook is a good shout, seemed to like to produce and give youth a chance. What brand of football did Wigan play?

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I thought he was a better drummer for the Sex Pistols tha he was a football manager tbh

Most of our current malaise I would attribute to Warnock moreso than Harris.
The jury is still out on Harris, but it is way too early to be thinking about a change, especially after getting us to the playoffs last season.
Our squad was in a mess - and sorting it out will take more than the next 2 windows too.

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Originally Posted by Rjk

Most of our current malaise I would attribute to Warnock moreso than Harris.
The jury is still out on Harris, but it is way too early to be thinking about a change, especially after getting us to the playoffs last season.
Our squad was in a mess - and sorting it out will take more than the next 2 windows too.

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Agreed, although there have been some questionable decisions lately. One of them being how the **** he only made 1 sub on Wednesday after bemoaning the schedule and injuries and how did Junior Hoilett remain on the pitch when we had 2 fresh wingers on the bench? Hoilett was utterly shite on Wednesday, as he has been for most of the season, but keeps getting selected game after game. Murphy on the other hand finally gets a start in an awful scrappy game last Saturday and is bombed again without even 10 minutes off the bench Wednesday when the game was crying out for a bit of pace when it went end to end after we equalised.

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Originally Posted by Hilts

And to those who voted out remember this is the manager who got a team struggling in the league to 5th , got the best out of Lee Tomlin and the best away record in the country.

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Short memories. Sacking managers all the time is not progress. Should sack the ones who hire bad managers all the time.