Aye, nothing to do with being a former player :hehe: :hehe:Quote:
Originally Posted by Wolfmother
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Aye, nothing to do with being a former player :hehe: :hehe:Quote:
Originally Posted by Wolfmother
Some. But I think it has more to do with his studies and stint as under 23 manager. Remember, they didn’t want him to touch Cardiff.Quote:
Originally Posted by City123
Terminating their deals because nobody wanted to touch them and they were disruptive influences at the club. Ask McNaughton what he thought about some of their attitudes? We signed these players on massive wages and we couldn't shift them. It's OK, he's definitely not done the same deal with Ighalo at Man Utd, wonder who his agent is? :sherlock:Quote:
Originally Posted by Wolfmother
Yes, that was it! The brilliance of father Slade not being able to dismantle a team in two weeks.. With fans like you buying into it. Ask McNaughton about the attitude of the players we had in the premier league! Ask Cala and And a few others what they where told once Father Slade came in. Ask Eikrem what was told when Scott Young came into the picture. Nobody wanted to touch Burgstaller? Really? Embarrassing...Quote:
Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa
I know what they were told, Wolfie baby. I know what they acted like. Tan might be a lot of things but he isn't thick. He isn't going to pay up someone's contract if people want to buy them. That's not even thick, it's basic. People didn't want to know as they were on far too much money here and were giving it the big I am.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wolfmother
There we differ. If Tan is anything, it is thick! They signed the deals and brokered the salaries. All within the budget they all set themselves. It has nothing to do with the manager. If anything, going into the season with that squad, dismantling it after seven games, it is if anything thick! And you’d have to be even thicker to support it. And here we are. Status quo. While Ole is not.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa
Tan is so thick he didn’t even want to invest being in the premier league the second time he stroke the luck. Imagine..
Tan did invest and you don’t become a Billionaire if your thick!Quote:
Originally Posted by Wolfmother
Dalman has stated that Warnock spent £100 million on players in his three years and most turned out to be crap, great motivator but wasted a fortune!
Two extreme takes when I think the reality is somewhere in the middle.
He clearly wasn't a success, but I think everyone should read that Ben Turner interview before fully passing judgment on his time here. For me, his big problem was trying to switch immediately to an attacking style with a team that was drilled to do the opposite. Everything that came after was a bit shambolic (massively oversized squad, reports of players not fit etc) and it was always going to end in disaster. There were some good signings, in his defence. There were some terrible ones, too, unfortunately.
I think he's learnt a lot since then, though. I think it's unfair to say that it's "easy" to manage Utd, but at that level you have quality tools at your disposal and the emphasis is more on how you can handle egos and personalities than if you can develop footballers. I think that's probably what he's good at. That said, even if you're driving a Ferrari badly, you're still going to win more races than the guy in a Peugeot 106.
For me, the real issue is - as usual - at board level. In many ways, Harris now is doing the role Slade did (ie cleaning up the last guys mess), which proves that, unlike Solksjaer, they haven't learned anything since then. I honestly believe that a lot of our problems over the last 10 years would have been avoided with a sporting director / DoF to ensure a consistent playing style, to ensure that players weren't signed on shady deals to line the managers pockets (as has happened with several managers I think, not just OGS), and to ensure that there was some semblance of continuity between managerial hires.
I don't think he's the next Klopp or Ancelotti as Wolf seems to think, but one thing is for sure - he's progressed far more since his time here than we as a club have.
Pogba's goal tonight was pretty special.
Watch Ole play it down. That’s special!Quote:
Originally Posted by LeningradCowboy
OGS has probably learned a lot of lessons since leaving Cardiff , taking that job at Utd was a huge risk and carries massive burdens and pressure for any manager, as so much is expected of you . You only have to look at the high profile victims it has had since Fergie, therfore one might conclude he has something about him to turn this around and put Utd back up there , they won't win the league as their centre backs are inconsistent and the need a true centre forward ,mind you the aging Cavani is a class act against weaker opposition.
They've been a pretty fun team to watch since he took over as well. there are always opportunities in it for both teamsQuote:
Originally Posted by life on mars
If they had managed to sign Haaland and Sancho then they'd be up there with anyone going forward
Definitely . He would have taken us back to the 4th division without missing a season .Quote:
Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee
He has matured slightly , but, anyone who believes he is a good manager is nuts. The cards have fallen his way for a minute.
He seemed clueless with us, we were completely the wrong club for him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimmy the Jock
You don't get to the top of the premier league deep into January without having something about you though.
They won't win it though, but at least there you can understand his logic, and see what kind of a team he's trying to get.
He's clearly far from the worst manager in the premier league.
Lampard makes some bizarre tactical decisions and has spent the most money and managed to turn a title challenging squad into one who could finish bottom half.
If i could select any premier league managers to be the next cardiff manager, Solskier wouldn't be top of the list, but he wouldn't be bottom either.
Bump.
Normal service has been resumed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee
Clueless.
Think the pressure got to him. First high profile post and he could have fluffed it for good.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rjk
They won at home against Sheffield Utd. Was anyone expecting otherwise?
Oops. Ha ha ha ha!
I watched some of the game as I couldn't find a stream for the city game, was a strange one.
the first sheff utd goal was a blatant foul on the keeper by Billy sharp, then manure had a goal ruled out for a less obvious foul on the keeper.
then it turned into attack Vs defence for large portions of the game, with manure unable to break down the sheff utd defence at all.
they were really impressive in fairness, especially Ampadu. if sheff utd had a bit more firepower up front and could take the lead in more games they would definitely not be in any trouble this season.
Ampadu looked great in defence and carrying the ball into midfield, was a really positive performance from him.
then for the sheff utd second goal man u defence were a shambles, same guy got the ball about 3 times in the box completely unmarked in the space of 30 seconds.
should be a difficult season to predict the top 4 this season. man city will run away with it then the next 3 could almost be anyone from the top half of the table.
it wasn't long ago that the top 4 were a done deal every season and it was difficult to see how anyone could break into it, how things have changed.