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Originally Posted by
PhyllisStant
Vicki Sparks is absolutely terrible. She sounds like pre pubescent boy doing a cliched impression of a football commentator. I can’t listen to her.
That's more or less what I said earlier but I do like the "doing an impression" and "pre-pubescent" bits. That's exactly how I feel about her. She just regurgitates all the utterings she's picked up over the years and delivers them in the most annoying way possible.
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Re: Football Commentators, The Accused
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Originally Posted by
Moodybluebird
One from the past, who remembers Roger Malone ? He used to commentate on most of the west country matches in the 60's and 70's. Used the word "there" after a player's name, especially if they scored. "Chrissie Garland there !" etc. Not a bad commentator but good fun to take the p*ss out of at the time, especially as he was reputedly a Bristol City fan.
I remember him, though I thought it was Brian Moore who'd say "<name> right in there" when a cross came in.
"Patsy Holland" for Pat Holland.
Maybe both?
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I hardly ever watch football with the sound on. Not interested in commentary or whatever the pundit has to say. I find that i can follow a game so much better when the TV is on mute.
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Martin Tyler is still going strong, and he has written quite a few books too, mainly on Arsenal.
Barry Davies was the best, I liked Brian Moore, Tony Gubba, Alan Parry, Idwal Robling, Hugh Johns, David Coleman, Gerald Sindtsadt, and Guy Mowbray is Ok.
Couldn't stand John Motson, and now Clive Tyldsley is awful. Heard Vicky Sparks last night, absolutely bloody awful, worse than Jacqui Oatey.
As for summarisers etc, why do they have 10 minutes of a game on Match of The Day and the another 10 minutes analysing it? The show could be over in half the time. Most of them are crap, especially Linekar, Shearer, Jenas, Danny Murphy is terrible. Juts because they played football doesn't mean they can be good tv presenters. Alex Scott is abysmal, she's even on the One Show now! Karen Carney is decent as an 'expert' in the studio. Kelly Cates is excellent though. The BBC have to keep their quota ups though.
I like the commentators and summariser who cover non fashionable clubs and spout out rubbish as if they know about that club, you can pick it up when City are on.
They even have a women's football show now, which is equivalent in excitement to the bowls that is on now, actually the bowls is better.
If City are on tv I turn the sound down and listen to Radiop Wales, at least we can have a laugh at Ratcliffe and Perry!
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I mentioned yesterday the woman co-commentator who was slaughtering Kepa for letting Luton's goal in and not said a word about Pulisic's miss.
Is that Viki Sparks?
She also got right on my nerves when Luton had a chance second half at 2-1 at the striker's saved shot.
If she said "he should have gone low" once, she said it half a dozen times, every time they showed a replay in fact.
Apart from being very limited in her verbal description, I also thought there are few men who would have been so cutting about the striker's effort, at least offering a bit of balance.
As others have said, I think Alex Best is pretty good in the speaking, as good as many resident men analysts anyway, so it's not a sexism thing going on.
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Believe that was Carney for the Chelsea comments.
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Karen Carney was terrible as summariser on yesterday's Chelsea Luton cup game.
There's no inflections in her voice, just a constant drone. After Chelsea's 3rd goal said that it should secure them the 3 points.🙄
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Re: Football Commentators, The Accused
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Originally Posted by
The Bloop
Karen Carney was terrible as summariser on yesterday's Chelsea Luton cup game.
There's no inflections in her voice, just a constant drone. After Chelsea's 3rd goal said that it should secure them the 3 points.🙄
Haha I missed that.
Would she have been co-commentator and summariser though?
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Re: Football Commentators, The Accused
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Originally Posted by
MacAdder
I remember him, though I thought it was Brian Moore who'd say "<name> right in there" when a cross came in.
"Patsy Holland" for Pat Holland.
Maybe both?
Roger Malone just used the word "there" not "right in there". It's mostly the Bristol City player's names I remember him doing this to. "John Galley there" or "Gerry Gow there" and of course "Don Rogers there" when he commentated on Swindon's matches.
Brian Moore was one of the very best. Knowledgeable, excellent speaking voice and a naturally good communicator.
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Originally Posted by
MacAdder
Haha I missed that.
Would she have been co-commentator and summariser though?
Just a co-commentator yesterday and s bloody awful one at that.
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Re: Football Commentators, The Accused
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Originally Posted by
Moodybluebird
Just a co-commentator yesterday and s bloody awful one at that.
:thumbup:
Agree, awful!
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Re: Football Commentators, The Accused
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Originally Posted by
Moodybluebird
One from the past, who remembers Roger Malone ? He used to commentate on most of the west country matches in the 60's and 70's. Used the word "there" after a player's name, especially if they scored. "Chrissie Garland there !" etc. Not a bad commentator but good fun to take the p*ss out of at the time, especially as he was reputedly a Bristol City fan.
Exactly how I remember him except for one thing - I thought he was a Rovers fan. His infatuation with the word "there" extended into goalscoring because it seemed every time the ball hit net it was accompanied by "it's there!".
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Re: Football Commentators, The Accused
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Originally Posted by
The Bloop
Karen Carney was terrible as summariser on yesterday's Chelsea Luton cup game.
There's no inflections in her voice, just a constant drone. After Chelsea's 3rd goal said that it should secure them the 3 points.🙄
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Originally Posted by
MacAdder
Haha I missed that.
Would she have been co-commentator and summariser though?
Not sure? Does she get more money if she's a co-commentator?
She also said, following a strikers dodgy shot, that 'Alan Shearer will be going mental after that'. Not the brightest comment I thought.
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Re: Football Commentators, The Accused
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Originally Posted by
Moodybluebird
Roger Malone just used the word "there" not "right in there". It's mostly the Bristol City player's names I remember him doing this to. "John Galley there" or "Gerry Gow there" and of course "Don Rogers there" when he commentated on Swindon's matches.
Brian Moore was one of the very best. Knowledgeable, excellent speaking voice and a naturally good communicator.
:thumbup:
Isn't it crazy we'd sit through Brizzle City, Rovers or Swindon just to get a football fix.
Agree Brian Moore was superb. Commentator, interviewer and TV presenter.
They don't make 'em like that any more.
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Re: Football Commentators, The Accused
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Originally Posted by
Ivortheengine
First thing they have to do is get rid of all the women , both at games and in the studio. None of them know anything, and I don’t need to be told something by a woman, when i’m fully aware of what’s happening. I used to enjoy radio commentators more, in the past. They had to be more descriptive, more informative ,which led to football being much more enjoyable before Sky came in.They made you feel as though you were actually there. Bring back the good old days.
you could still just listen to the radio yer daft old sexist :hehe:
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Bob Symonds for HTV Wales was the best
A rugby obsessed mafia , cardiff rfc fan with no interest whatsoever in Cardiff City
He used to read the pre prepared commentary on the highlights for soccer Sunday
Quality stuff
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Re: Football Commentators, The Accused
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Originally Posted by
MacAdder
:thumbup:
Isn't it crazy we'd sit through Brizzle City, Rovers or Swindon just to get a football fix.
Agree Brian Moore was superb. Commentator, interviewer and TV presenter.
They don't make 'em like that any more.
Indeed they don't, which makes having to listen to Vicki Sparks even more galling. I could take Tuerto's option and turn the volume off I suppose !
There is something about listening to a cultured male voice describing a sporting or non-sporting event that transcends any female voice I've ever heard. If this is a sexist belief then so be it.
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Are you all saying she should be commenting only on the World Knitting Championships? Very naughty.
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Re: Football Commentators, The Accused
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Originally Posted by
MacAdder
Agree that sometimes less is more, especially on TV.
I didn't realise at the time, Dan Maskell on tennis was the master at saying just enough.
Having said that, imagine if you were blind or even partially sighted.
I'd imagine the experience would be much better with a more descriptive commentator.
Wouldn’t people who were blind be better off watching it on the radio?
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splott parker
Wouldn’t people who were blind be better off watching it on the radio?
Someone must be feeling better :hehe:
How's your belly off for spots?
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Re: Football Commentators, The Accused
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Originally Posted by
splott parker
Wouldn’t people who were blind be better off watching it on the radio?
I was being quite serious though.
It's only something, I'm ashamed to say, I've recently become aware of due to some TV adverts to do with funding for guide dogs and young children who are blind.
In these days of trying to be more inclusive in just about everything, it seemed to me that perhaps these commentators are providing more verbal purposely with this in mind.
People with sight problems should be able to experience as much enjoyment from a football match as the next person, especially in these times of TV being the only option.
I just wonder whether it's a conscious thing or whether its simply because the moden day commentator likes the sound of their own voice.
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Re: Football Commentators, The Accused
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Originally Posted by
Eric the Half a Bee
There's an international feed for Premier League games, covered mainly by White and Drury. Clearly NBC use that feed.
It's actually White and Tildsley that our main commentators now. We get them for dedicated US games with Graeme Le Saux and Lee Dixon usually one at a time but sometimes together. They are quite entertaining. Especially Lee Dixon. They interact with the studio panel and do a before and after. We get two main games on Saturday and depending on who's playing and when, one on Sunday and/or Monday. We also get every other PL game presented from the studio but using the international feed. Which unfortunately may involve Andy Townsend or Efan Ekoku. Obviously, the schedule this year is completely different to what we're used to. Not sure what sort of coverage we'll be getting today. NBC is normally very good on weekends, but the midweek B-team is not as engaging.
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Re: Football Commentators, The Accused
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Originally Posted by
Eric the Half a Bee
Clive Tildesley has recently been demoted by ITV as their lead commentator. He gave quite a tirade on Twitter over it. He's now become main commentator on Rangers TV, so he's now universally hated by Celtic fans! He took to selling off old hand written match notes he'd made.
Parry is now one of the football league commentators on Sky, still going. Tyler is still there but well past his best.
I quite like John Murray on Radio 5, the part Geordie one.
I listen to 5 live a lot and like John Murray (especially when there's been a "bw-king"), Ian Dennis and Alistair Bruce-Ball, even if there is a touch of the Partridge about him. Not so fussed on Conor McNamara and fully agree with everything said about Vikki Sparks, she's awful. As for the pundits, agree with another comment on here about Pat Nevin. Always uses more words than necessary and is always right. Can't listen to him, especially when paired with Sparks for the Hall of Shame commentary team.
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Re: Football Commentators, The Accused
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Originally Posted by
Gnojek
I listen to 5 live a lot and like John Murray (especially when there's been a "bw-king"), Ian Dennis and Alistair Bruce-Ball, even if there is a touch of the Partridge about him. Not so fussed on Conor McNamara and fully agree with everything said about Vikki Sparks, she's awful. As for the pundits, agree with another comment on here about Pat Nevin. Always uses more words than necessary and is always right. Can't listen to him, especially when paired with Sparks for the Hall of Shame commentary team.
When I said how awful Vicki Sparks was I didn't expect anyone to be in agreement with me. How wrong I was !
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I have a friend who was a professional in his sport ( not football). He now co comments on his sport part time for one of the satellite channels, he’s been told his hours are being cut this year because they have to bring in some female co commentators ( on the men’s game). He then asked couldn’t he do more commentary on the women’s games and was told no because he had never played the women’s game - go figure!