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He's proved everyone wrong hasn't he? No one could have foreseen this. I always thought our squad was better, and was perplexed as to how they looked so awful, and about what could be one to change it. I was not enthused by MM's appointment. But you have to say that so far, he has not put a foot wrong. He's got everyone in the team playing better as individuals, the shape of the team looks better, you can't fault the effort and drive. I didn't think Vaulks and Pack worked together, but they do. I didn't think we had the right players for a back three, but we do. And finally, Aden Flint? What can I say? He's playing like a captain. I was definitely wrong about him.
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I never liked MMc, it was always a big joke between me and my dad that he was just constantly dour and miserable whenever I saw him on tv. That coupled with the need for a proper change meant I was hugely underwhelmed when he came onboard. Early days but I feel like an idiot now, he's been brilliant, can't fault him
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The Bloop
Except him obvs.
Warnock, Jones, McCarthy on one hand. Harris, Trollope, OGS on the other.
Dave Jones was 48 when he came to Cardiff.
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Happy to admit that i called for Mick in a thread all the way back on the 23/10/19 before Harris joined. Also backed him up as the rumours started and when he was hired. :thumbup:
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I have seen lots of posts, that see Ipswich as a bad stain in his CV.
But I have always been under the impression he did really well at Ipswich? Didn't they refuse to spend money for years and years, the fact he kept them a mid table championship side for so long under terrible conditions was a good achievement.
Proven by what has consequently happened to them as soon as he left.
I also remember MM's Ipswich being a very difficult game for Cardiff whenever we travelled there.
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chris lee
I have seen lots of posts, that see Ipswich as a bad stain in his CV.
But I have always been under the impression he did really well at Ipswich? Didn't they refuse to spend money for years and years, the fact he kept them a mid table championship side for so long under terrible conditions was a good achievement.
Proven by what has consequently happened to them as soon as he left.
I also remember MM's Ipswich being a very difficult game for Cardiff whenever we travelled there.
If he gets a contract extension, which at this stage looks a certainty, it will be interesting to see whether the board will give him the financial backing to develop the team, something he was denied at Ipswich.
One thing we can say about Harris is that that the vast majority of his acquisitions have been successful, certainly much more so than his predecessors. It is a given that any players MM sign will be have the right mental attitude to succeed. Hopefully, like Harris he has an eye for a decent footballer too.
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the board in general likes to moan and groan:hehe:
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Originally Posted by
The Bloop
Except him obvs.😁
Warnock, Jones, McCarthy on one hand. Harris, Trollope, OGS on the other.
How could you possibly miss out Russel Slade?
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Get Harris in on the transfer committee
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Mick McCarthy on Celtic shortlist, if you believe WOL?
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/...-city-19914547
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Gofer Blue
On skybet there's about 30 other candidates ahead of him, so it's a pretty long shortlist.
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The same people who moaned about the appointment are the same people who voted for Brexit. :hehe:
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NYCBlue
Dave Jones was 48 when he came to Cardiff.
Hadn't he only really had two jobs as well? He'd been employed by Southampton but his arrest really got in the way of that. The appointment of Jones is more similar to Mackay & Trollope than Warnock & McCarthy
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He has done really well and long may it continue. So yes I was also wrong . Shows how much a manager influences the team.
I would still prefer a younger manager playing less "direct" football.
But its a results game .
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Still early days, remember Harris took us from 15th to 5th and the playoffs last season made some good signings but it all went wrong especially when Moore and Morrison got injured! Whatever happens I would only offer MM a 1 year rolling contract as it’s cost us a lot of money to sack Managers including Warnock!
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B. Oddie
The same people who moaned about the appointment are the same people who voted for Brexit. :hehe:
No they are f**king not!
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Originally Posted by
Jimmy the Jock
He has done really well and long may it continue. So yes I was also wrong . Shows how much a manager influences the team.
I would still prefer a younger manager playing less "direct" football.
But its a results game .
That's a great plan however you'd have to replace the majority of the playing staff at great cost , and as MM states this game is not complicated to win games , old and young can succeed however its interesting when clubs are in decline or in trouble they hire experience.
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Gofer Blue
Poisoned chalice. I very much doubt if MM would be interested. Celtic will be looking for a young up-and-comer too. They're playing catch-up now.
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:hehe:
At least they have something to smile about with us.
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B. Oddie
The same people who moaned about the appointment are the same people who voted for Brexit. :hehe:
Load of rubbish
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City123
Hadn't he only really had two jobs as well? He'd been employed by Southampton but his arrest really got in the way of that. The appointment of Jones is more similar to Mackay & Trollope than Warnock & McCarthy
Jones had had over 400 games by the time he got to us, and 400 extremely successful ones. Had a 48% win rate at Stockport, that's absolutely phenomenal.
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J R Hartley
about Mick McCarthy? I certainly am.
I have been pleasantly surprised, I thought we were going to get Warnock Ball on steroids when we appointed Big Mick, especially as we needed to stop the rot. I thought we would get safety first, defensive football, isolated lone striker and play with a draw first, hope to nick a winner from a set piece mentality which we saw under Warnock and the way Mick set up his Ipswich team last time he managed in this division.
However, the change of shape with wing backs and playing the wingers inside behind the striker has worked a treat so far. Yes we still rely on set pieces to a certain to a degree but its one of our strengths so why not? but we have also scored some lovely goals from open play.
I was dreading the thought of Mick doing well enough to get a longer deal but now I think jts a no brainer.
Well done Mick and TC.:ayatollah:
No he's shit, stick to knitting :hehe:
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North Cardiff Blue
No he's shit, stick to knitting :hehe:
That was the honeymoon period. :hehe:
How was I to know he would revert to type as soon as he got a new deal. :hehe:
At least with Bulut we know we are getting shite football from the start. :shrug:
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Maybe Bulut's replacement could change of shape with wing backs and playing the wingers inside behind the striker has worked a treat so far. Yes we still rely on set pieces to a certain to a degree but its one of our strengths so why not? but we have also scored some lovely goals from open play and take us down the Leagues :hehe:
Leave it to the grown ups mate, if you think Mad Mick is the answer :thumbup:
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Originally Posted by
J R Hartley
about Mick McCarthy? I certainly am.
I have been pleasantly surprised, I thought we were going to get Warnock Ball on steroids when we appointed Big Mick, especially as we needed to stop the rot. I thought we would get safety first, defensive football, isolated lone striker and play with a draw first, hope to nick a winner from a set piece mentality which we saw under Warnock and the way Mick set up his Ipswich team last time he managed in this division.
However, the change of shape with wing backs and playing the wingers inside behind the striker has worked a treat so far. Yes we still rely on set pieces to a certain to a degree but its one of our strengths so why not? but we have also scored some lovely goals from open play.
I was dreading the thought of Mick doing well enough to get a longer deal but now I think jts a no brainer.
Well done Mick and TC.:ayatollah:
I couldn't believe they gave him a contract. The WORST football I have ever watched , to the point I stopped watching Cardiff.
Those moaning about Bulut have short memories or perhaps its a hangover from Mad Mick .
Buluts sides play good football occasionally, lack heart when they go one down ,sometimes lack heart from the beginning.
Good find , JR Hartley the football guru...
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JR Hartley
Currently asleep surrounded by carers
Well Well
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Originally Posted by
North Cardiff Blue
Maybe Bulut's replacement could change of shape with wing backs and playing the wingers inside behind the striker has worked a treat so far. Yes we still rely on set pieces to a certain to a degree but its one of our strengths so why not? but we have also scored some lovely goals from open play and take us down the Leagues :hehe:
Leave it to the grown ups mate, if you think Mad Mick is the answer :thumbup:
Whilst politically you are a no hoper you have done a fine job here
Even writing books may not save him now
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I must have been on a wind up....
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J R Hartley
I must have been on a wind up....
Never.:hehe:
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Ive just done some research and this was posted after we had just beaten Bournemouth away 2-1, our 6th win on the spin and 8th game unbeaten under Mick (Mick drew his first two) whilst scoring 15 goals in those 6 wins.
Thats my defence anyway :hehe:
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Originally Posted by
J R Hartley
Ive just done some research and this was posted after we had just beaten Bournemouth away 2-1, our 6th win on the spin and 8th game unbeaten under Mick (Mick drew his first two) whilst scoring 15 goals in those 6 wins.
Thats my defence anyway :hehe:
😂
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Originally Posted by
J R Hartley
Ive just done some research and this was posted after we had just beaten Bournemouth away 2-1, our 6th win on the spin and 8th game unbeaten under Mick (Mick drew his first two) whilst scoring 15 goals in those 6 wins.
Thats my defence anyway :hehe:
And that's the point. At the time our results and performances were very impressive. I doubt there was a City fan who, at that time, was sceptical of McCarthy. Harris didn't do too bad a job, but 1 win in 8 saw him get the boot. McCarthy turned that around, got us into the playoff positions, which we subsequently squandered, but still beat the Jacks.
The following season saw us in 6th after 4 games before McCarthy wend doolally and we lost 9 of the next 10, including a club record 8 defeats on the spin.
You can only say what you see at the time. I bet many a City fan would have happily sucked off Bulut after we'd beaten the Jacks.
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Eric the Half a Bee
And that's the point. At the time our results and performances were very impressive. I doubt there was a City fan who, at that time, was sceptical of McCarthy. Harris didn't do too bad a job, but 1 win in 8 saw him get the boot. McCarthy turned that around, got us into the playoff positions, which we subsequently squandered, but still beat the Jacks.
The following season saw us in 6th after 4 games before McCarthy wend doolally and we lost 9 of the next 10, including a club record 8 defeats on the spin.
You can only say what you see at the time. I bet many a City fan would have happily sucked off Bulut after we'd beaten the Jacks.
Never wanted Mick in the first place and certainly didn't agree with the contract he was given - felt we should have said goodbye and started again
As for the jacks result under McCarthy - people have been criticising our lucky wins under bulut - that's was as bulut like away win as you are likely to see
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Originally Posted by
Eric the Half a Bee
And that's the point. At the time our results and performances were very impressive. I doubt there was a City fan who, at that time, was sceptical of McCarthy. Harris didn't do too bad a job, but 1 win in 8 saw him get the boot. McCarthy turned that around, got us into the playoff positions, which we subsequently squandered, but still beat the Jacks.
The following season saw us in 6th after 4 games before McCarthy wend doolally and we lost 9 of the next 10, including a club record 8 defeats on the spin.
You can only say what you see at the time. I bet many a City fan would have happily sucked off Bulut after we'd beaten the Jacks.
Don't let him off the hook you soppy tart 😂
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SLUDGE FACTORY
He's trying to blame premature Mick Macs Elation now :hehe:
Mad Micks Fluffer :hehe:
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Originally Posted by
J R Hartley
Ive just done some research and this was posted after we had just beaten Bournemouth away 2-1, our 6th win on the spin and 8th game unbeaten under Mick (Mick drew his first two) whilst scoring 15 goals in those 6 wins.
Thats my defence anyway :hehe:
Never, ever look back at old posts. Golden rule. My account's been hacked several times too. I only found out after the Bale debacle and some alter-ego was posting about egalitarian Wales selection. Dark days. Never look back! :hehe:
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North Cardiff Blue
He's trying to blame premature Mick Macs Elation now :hehe:
Mad Micks Fluffer :hehe:
Fair play! That made me :hehe:
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Originally Posted by
Jimmy the Jock
I couldn't believe they gave him a contract. The WORST football I have ever watched , to the point I stopped watching Cardiff.
Those moaning about Bulut have short memories or perhaps its a hangover from Mad Mick .
Buluts sides play good football occasionally, lack heart when they go one down ,sometimes lack heart from the beginning.
Good find , JR Hartley the football guru...
Football Gnu more like
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Originally Posted by
SLUDGE FACTORY
Football Gnu more like
What you know about football could be written on a postage stamp you grotty little man.
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J R Hartley
What you know about football could be written on a postage stamp you grotty little man.
You have had a right leathering here 😂
I think you should get an allotment or something