its embarrassing to be honest :frown:Quote:
Originally Posted by life on mars
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its embarrassing to be honest :frown:Quote:
Originally Posted by life on mars
Well said!Quote:
Originally Posted by xsnaggle
Thats not 5 stone overweight ff sake
If he loses a stone he will be fine
Class player to bring on when we are cruising to break teams down further as they chase the game
I love to watch him play but the reality is that he's a luxury item rather than a fully functioning part of the machine and I'm beginning to realise that Harry Wilson is a bit like that too.
If we want to progress properly then we need to be able to accommodate one or two players like that because they're match winners and fantastic to watch, but whether we can afford them at this stage in the rough and tumble of the second league is debatable.
That's poor, he looks way off.Quote:
Originally Posted by gabbsthenewt
Totally agree, I don't think we've had such a naturally gifted player on our books since maybe Koumas. Tomlin has that special quality of creating winning opportunities out of nothing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Heisenberg
That said he's obviously got a weight problem and that's his Achilles heel. If only we had a really fit Tomlin on our hands then we might be able to forget the play offs and go up automatically.
Sadly, I see MM only using him sparingly, if at all, and if Mick is confirmed as manager next season Tomlin will be on his way out. I wish it were otherwise.
What has he done for us in the last 4 seasons?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dorcus
Since he signed for us he has played in 34 games in all competitions and that is including as sub or being subbed. In those games he has scored 11 goals.
This season he played in 5 games and of those we drew 1 and lost 2. some gamechanger.
Given a recorded cost of £2,900,0000 that works out at about £85,300/game or part of a game, and as £263.600 goal scored.
That is not even considering the wages he had put in his back pocket in the process and the cost of his medical treatment. You can add another £5 million+ just for his wages.
There is no way anyone can justify that as his being an asset to the club. No way!
Nothing then spoke about his problems, got fit and fired us into the playoffs. Is it you who is suggesting it was all about getting a contract? Must admit I was that cynical when that article came out but think it's a tad unfair to say it now.Quote:
Originally Posted by xsnaggle
I can't see why it is unfair to say it now. look at the stats. Yes I agree it was me who said it was all about getting a new contract and nothing he has done since has indicated anything different to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by surge
I hear so many people saying "He fired us into the playoffs". We lost them. So we were really no better off than if we hadn't got there, although for us supporters it was a good ride. He is as fat and lazy now as he was when we sent him out on loan because he was useless. His refusal to move closer so he could train with the team properly doesn't exactly smack of a totally committed member of the squad does it?
He flatters to deceive. Look at what he has cost and the return for it. I think its a no-brainer.
I agree that there is record of him playing better in contract years before but can't recall anyone saying he was also fitter in those years to point he was chasing back to help defend. That 6 months was enough for me to give him benefit of doubt, especially as he'd probably still be that player if hadn't gotten injured trying to turn around second leg, rather than saying his good behaviour then was all about that new contract.Quote:
Originally Posted by xsnaggle
His behaviour since injury might be questioned again (photos don't look great) but I'm saying him getting fitter was genuine effort to make best of his last year's regardless of it being a contract year.
I admire your faith, but I'm very doubtful personally. It is all too pat for me that the two things just happened to coincide.Quote:
Originally Posted by surge
The reason he gained 20lbs or whatever is because he is not, and never will be "fine".Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
3 games a week until the end of the season.We need all hands on deck
Since when did we play 3 games a week, week in week out? don't over egg the omelette. :hehe:Quote:
Originally Posted by dandywarhol
Before anyone shouts, i just looked elsewhere and the figures I quoted may be slightly out but not enough to anywhere near justify his cost.
He can change games, we know he can, but he is a luxury player
But them pictures are just a joke :frown: Yes he has been injured and unable to train, but that doesnt mean he needs to eat so badly and pile on them Lbs, he is a professional footballer getting paid £ 25 K ( ? ?? ? ) per week, it wouldnt be too much to ask him to stay in shape for when his injury is better
when he had that good pre-season and got into shape and was lean and fit i thought he had sorted his life out and was taking his job seriously, this just shows he hasnt
He's a disgrace, putting on that much weight shows a total disregard for your team/employer and he's certainly an example to the younger players as to how not to behave. I mentioned previously his hip issue, he just needs to retire.Quote:
Originally Posted by blue matt
agreed it is a very good example on how younger players shouldnt be, putting on that weight is just embarrassingQuote:
Originally Posted by tomcat
Wilson puts in a shift defensively as well as going forward, we're noticeably worse at pretty much every aspect of the game when he & Murphy go offQuote:
Originally Posted by RonnieBird
He's a professional athlete, those pictures are a disgrace.Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
This. No excuses.Quote:
Originally Posted by City123
I can't understand how he can still be getting paid when he shows up to work looking like that. I have no respect for him.
He is obviously not capable of fulfilling his obligations in respect of his playing contract.Quote:
Originally Posted by NYCBlue