Live Bristol riots

The wurzels have always been revolting

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Originally Posted by Croesy Blue

Obviously, but the right to peacefully protest is being attacked.

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It’s being attacked, because of incidents like yesterday. These protests are the same as the football hooliganism. Probably 95% of participants in these protests, want to do it peacefully, whilst the other 5% want to cause chaos and anarchy.
95% of City fans in the 70’s and 80’s just wanted to go to games to support the City, but the 5% that made up the soul crew, wanted the aggro.
It’s the minorities, that always get their way, and the majorities get tarred with the same brush.

Imo, in a protest you'll always have those there because they want to be part of an event, those there because they're angry and want to physically express that regardless of their opinion on protest subject and those there who really believe in the cause and want to show that peacefully or otherwise.

I found in the reports this morning that Avon and Somerset Police Chief Constable was claiming there were 400-500 criminals in the protest, but does anyone buy that it was such a high number?

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Two officers were injured and treated in hospital, with one suffering a punctured lung and broken ribs, and the other a fractured arm. Both have since been discharged. Twelve police vehicles were also damaged, with two set on fire. It is understood the police operation cost around £1m. - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-56461796

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If there were 400-500 criminals wouldn't they do much more damage than that? Or our criminals some of the worst idlers in the world too.

Regarding the protest itself, I have sympathy with those protesting what appears to be part of creeping (mostly right wing) authoritarianism in the UK and the police who had to deal with the violent group. Not an either or situation.

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Originally Posted by stan butler

No he's not. Every protest ends with scruffy rent a mob follow like sheep student types causing scenes..
Nothing against protests but these just go for a day out follow the crowd lot don't actually help the cause.
I have worked with some of students and have heard it from them that they care little of the protest and in their words its just something to do.

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Those scruffy suffragettes. Scum of the earth.

At least Farage had the decency to wear his Sunday best when patrolling Dover.

Just to recap where we are:

- 5 year fixed term parliament unless the governing party decides they want an election

- Police(/politicians) given the power to severely limit and even criminalise non-violent protest if they wish to

- No mechanism to hold politicians to account for blatant lies or failure to deliver on policy pledges.

If this sounds good to you then I would urge you to engage your brain and stop thinking about protests as 'something the other team does'.

Thankfully the press can still say whatever the handful of billionaires who own them want them to say.

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

Very fair point

I note that several officers have been cautioned regarding that mans death . Over what I don't know .

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Four police officers have been served misconduct notices, which does not necessarily mean that they have committed any wrongdoing. It is to notify them that their conduct is being investigated.

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Originally Posted by 198bore

Anyone who supports the government removing our right to protest is an absolute mug.

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This sums it up for me. The bill hasn’t been thought through.

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Originally Posted by William Treseder

It’s being attacked, because of incidents like yesterday. These protests are the same as the football hooliganism. Probably 95% of participants in these protests, want to do it peacefully, whilst the other 5% want to cause chaos and anarchy.
95% of City fans in the 70’s and 80’s just wanted to go to games to support the City, but the 5% that made up the soul crew, wanted the aggro.
It’s the minorities, that always get their way, and the majorities get tarred with the same brush.

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5%....you clearly didn’t follow us away in the 80’s or 90’s. Possibly 10% normal fans and 90% nutters

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Originally Posted by goats

5%....you clearly didn’t follow us away in the 80’s or 90’s. Possibly 10% normal fans and 90% nutters

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That's about right :hehe:

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Originally Posted by goats

5%....you clearly didn’t follow us away in the 80’s or 90’s. Possibly 10% normal fans and 90% nutters

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Harsh, maybe 30/70?

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Originally Posted by goats

5%....you clearly didn’t follow us away in the 80’s or 90’s. Possibly 10% normal fans and 90% nutters

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I’ve followed City home and away pal on and off since 75. I’ve seen it all. I was more referring to home games. It’s a given that all the nutters went to away games. Mind you, half of the firms in those days had large elements that didn’t really want to do it, but were sucked in, enjoyed the feeling of belonging, and relied on safety in numbers.
Just like the arseholes causing bother yesterday, they’d have shit yellow if they’d found themselves all alone.

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Originally Posted by William Treseder

I’ve followed City home and away pal on and off since 75. I’ve seen it all. I was more referring to home games. It’s a given that all the nutters went to away games. Mind you, half of the firms in those days had large elements that didn’t really want to do it, but were sucked in, enjoyed the feeling of belonging, and relied on safety in numbers.
Just like the arseholes causing bother yesterday, they’d have shit yellow if they’d found themselves all alone.

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80s , 90s and through much of hammams time , a lot of nutters

Nowadays less so due to cctv but before covid there was still a sizeable hard core of city fans who liked a row

Football violence is now dead following covid

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Originally Posted by goats

5%....you clearly didn’t follow us away in the 80’s or 90’s. Possibly 10% normal fans and 90% nutters

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even them 10% normal fans would have a drink and enjoy the day out

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Originally Posted by Gofer Blue

Surprisingly, no looting reported as yet. With non-essential shops shut there must be a large pent-up demand for expensive trainers surely.

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Sports Direct well boarded up otherwise it could have got ugly ,bloody right wing protests.

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Originally Posted by life on mars

Sports Direct well boarded up otherwise it could have got ugly ,bloody right wing protests.

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Ah, that explains it. An opportunity for a new pair of trainers for free thwarted there then. Maybe no TV shops in the vicinity either, otherwise a great opportunity to possess the latest 55" TV.

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Originally Posted by blue matt

even them 10% normal fans would have a drink and enjoy the day out

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Sometimes it was the ones who weren’t dressed in the casual clobber who appeared to be the most insane.....just a normal looking person in a city top ( which was actually a rare sight back in the day)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3jf11ovvww

saw this earlier this evening

Chief Constable of Avon and Somerset Police, Andy Marsh, now says there were not broken bones or punctured lungs.

"Regarding last night's operation to disperse protestors on College Green he said the use of force was "appropriate" (there is footage of officers punching and dragging protestors)."

https://twitter.com/SimsonPete/statu...95796541640704 and https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-new...-back-23798401