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Originally Posted by Cleve van Leef

Ken Zohore £8 million.

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If he held on to the purple patch that he showed glimpses of here he would be worth 5+ times that.

Unfortunately after watching him for WB and Millwall his heads not in it

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Originally Posted by surge

It's highly unlikely UK football can go down the 50+1 route because it would mean undoing so much of past three decades in football and fans accepting their clubs becoming less able to purchase best players from Europe for £100million plus.

While there are football fans desperate for game to improve ticket prices, representation for women's game, fair compensation for buying young players and not hoarding talent etc. there are also a huge number of fans who don't like the Super League but also don't like that their owners haven't spent as Man City and Chelsea have: seemingly never ending cheque-books and almost always leading to success.

There is also a detained Russian politician who has asked UK to impose sanctions on Roman Abramovich due to close ties to Putin's faux democracy government and yet Roman is one of the most popular owners in UK football. No conversation about the Super League, as far as I can tell, has included talk about how UK football is currently funded.

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Fans can't afford to buy the major stake in the big clubs. The interesting thing about the 51% fan ownership in the Bundesliga is that it was introduced in 1998 more as a liberalisation rather than as a restriction - as clubs were not permitted to be privately owned before then.

The model of club ownership in the UK will always involve a tension between fans and wealthy owners - and the drive towards exploiting revenue from other countries where TV viewers attach themselves to clubs merely as a brand seems unstoppable in the long term.

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Originally Posted by WJ99mobile

Glaziers leveraged the buyout against the club.

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Didn't they simply spot a window of opportunity? :biggrin:

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Originally Posted by Hilts

Are the protests there so bad the game needed to be called off. ?

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

Not from what I’ve seen.

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Wasn't it Covid-19 related?

Game rumoured to being played today, not sure if credible or not.

Time to get these parasites out of the game. The Glazers have taken £2.1bn out of Man Utd. They're not required, time to start hurting their wallets. Man Utd have been protesting them politely for 16 years, sod all has happened.

Hope fans of the other clubs involved do the same. No place for violence but it is time for action now.

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Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa

Time to get these parasites out of the game. The Glazers have taken £2.1bn out of Man Utd. They're not required, time to start hurting their wallets. Man Utd have been protesting them politely for 16 years, sod all has happened.

Hope fans of the other clubs involved do the same. No place for violence but it is time for action now.

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I agree, all they did is borrow money to buy the club, that shouldn’t be allowed, it isn’t in lots of countries like the USA for starters.
Football authorities shouldn’t allow such take overs to even happen. Isn’t there supposed to be some form of parameters that potential owners are supposed to meet?

Think the government task force needs to look at and merge this in with Competition Commission , as I see it these clubs have been allowed to create a monopoly.

If it did apply stricter laws , would big European clubs follow ?? If they didn't we the UK clubs would become weaker in all European competitions , I do wonder then how the UK fans would react as it woudl not be a level playing field with the other bigger clubs in Europe carrying on regardless and our alleged top 6 looking on in envy ??

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Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa

Time to get these parasites out of the game. The Glazers have taken £2.1bn out of Man Utd. They're not required, time to start hurting their wallets. Man Utd have been protesting them politely for 16 years, sod all has happened.

Hope fans of the other clubs involved do the same. No place for violence but it is time for action now.

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Well said.

I just watched MOTD2 and the fan/journalist they interviewed didn't come across very well. Tried to justify the actions as Manchester United fans campaigning for fairer distribution of wealth across the football pyramid. Yeah, that's what it was about. :shrug:

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Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie

Fans can't afford to buy the major stake in the big clubs. The interesting thing about the 51% fan ownership in the Bundesliga is that it was introduced in 1998 more as a liberalisation rather than as a restriction - as clubs were not permitted to be privately owned before then.

The model of club ownership in the UK will always involve a tension between fans and wealthy owners - and the drive towards exploiting revenue from other countries where TV viewers attach themselves to clubs merely as a brand seems unstoppable in the long term.

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the Government could try to force the owners to GIFT 51% of the club to the fans, but would " the big 6 " fans have voted against the Super cup, afterall they were happy enough to breakaway and form the EPL to get more money

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Originally Posted by PontBlue

I just watched MOTD2 and the fan/journalist they interviewed didn't come across very well. Tried to justify the actions as Manchester United fans campaigning for fairer distribution of wealth across the football pyramid. Yeah, that's what it was about. :shrug:

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Famously the big clubs' fans were really on board with the super league...

They've had enough. We all have.

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Originally Posted by RonnieBird

Wrong. I’m not interested in any of the money teams who buy success...

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If that’s the case, who are you interested in?

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Originally Posted by blue matt

the Government could try to force the owners to GIFT 51% of the club to the fans, but would " the big 6 " fans have voted against the Super cup, afterall they were happy enough to breakaway and form the EPL to get more money

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I think there's more chance of Sludge getting off with Victoria Coren.

Fifty one per cent fan ownership at clubs could be a reality if there was really the desire for such a thing in the corridors of power, but I don’t see any sign of it and there has been a lot of rowing back on that score since the news of the ESL broke just over a fortnight ago. The stories that the Government were very annoyed by the slow response of the Premier League to the Covid related problems of smaller clubs made me hopeful something radical might be on the way, but, despite fans clearly still being annoyed at the six clubs, there’s been what looks like a back to normal outlook from the game’s decision makers.

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

Fifty one per cent fan ownership at clubs could be a reality if there was really the desire for such a thing in the corridors of power, but I don’t see any sign of it and there has been a lot of rowing back on that score since the news of the ESL broke just over a fortnight ago. The stories that the Government were very annoyed by the slow response of the Premier League to the Covid related problems of smaller clubs made me hopeful something radical might be on the way, but, despite fans clearly still being annoyed at the six clubs, there’s been what looks like a back to normal outlook from the game’s decision makers.

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How are fans going to come up with hundreds of millions of pounds to buy the major shareholding in the biggest clubs though?
Transfermarkt have City's value at £58.35M and I can't see us oiks being able to cough up 51% of that figure. And I can't see current owners relinquishing their assets at a huge loss.

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Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie

I think there's more chance of Sludge getting off with Victoria Coren.

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agreed, but its the only way this 51% will happen, as fans are never going to tip up with the money