Saeed Javid is new Health Secretary

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Originally Posted by dandywarhol

He, was a great batsman fair play. A bit fiery. Ex Glamorgan. ����

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Bet he wont be caught leg before or over

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

At least the nurses who saved our lives would have got a decent pay rise

The tories really are wankers

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Worth a peak

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Originally Posted by life on mars

Worth a peak

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They don't earn much at all then considering what they do and the training

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Originally Posted by dandywarhol

Health Secretary for England. This is Wales.

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And your point is?

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

I always knew despite your continually denial and your obvious attack on anything left of centre that you were a raving tory boy

I don't care whether you or your wife have experience of living in the Eastern bloc its totally irrelevant to modern Western social democratic policy

In fact the recent attack on the welfare state by your lot could easily be taking place in communist countries and states you think people like me support

The sooner that the Labour Party disband , get rid of corban, Abbott and the other idiots and we get a decent alternative to your lot , the better .

If that makes me a socialist communist dreamer then clearly you need to sort your head out

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you're a fecking idiot.

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Originally Posted by xsnaggle

you're a fecking idiot.

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right back at you

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

They don't earn much at all then considering what they do and the training

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Some of those top bands are fairly paid , amazingly there are 12 pay band.

From band 5 its 30.6k rising to thee to band 9 which is £104k pa

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Originally Posted by Hilts

Yeah the whole front bench and the utter bufoon who leads thems feck off and resign.

But utter bufoons put an x by their names at elections

We are fecked.

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Politics seems finished in the UK. Anyone putting an X in the box for Kier Starmer would also be voting for utter buffoons

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Originally Posted by DubaiDai

Politics seems finished in the UK. Anyone putting an X in the box for Kier Starmer would also be voting for utter buffoons

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I don't disagree , he's hopeless as are most of his top team

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

I don't disagree , he's hopeless as are most of his top team

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Its very sad there is no real opposition .

I know you not supposed to mention the Blair name or Blairsim around Labour and it supporters however surely some must wonder some form of that politics maybe more successful and making a better fist of this .

If only they had gone for David Miliband what would that look like now , would Brexit have happened , would the red wall still be there , would he win seats in Scotland to stop the march of Scottish nationalism ??

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Originally Posted by life on mars

Its very sad there is no real opposition .

I know you not supposed to mention the Blair name or Blairsim around Labour and it supporters however surely some must wonder some form of that politics maybe more successful and making a better fist of this .

If only they had gone for David Miliband what would that look like now , would Brexit have happened , would the red wall still be there , would he win seats in Scotland to stop the march of Scottish nationalism ??

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David Milliband would have made a great prime minister but he was tainted by his clear support for the invasion of Iraq which was utterly disgraceful . I hope one day Blair is in prison for that .

So the question would be if he had defeated his brother , who was hopeless , would he have been up for another invasion , if the circumstances arrived ?

The labour movement couldn't have handled that

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

David Milliband would have made a great prime minister but he was tainted by his clear support for the invasion of Iraq which was utterly disgraceful . I hope one day Blair is in prison for that .

So the question would be if he had defeated his brother , who was hopeless , would he have been up for another invasion , if the circumstances arrived ?

The labour movement couldn't have handled that

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A lot Labour people supported it at the time MP's and voters , to assume David Milliband would invade again , or not agree with it once he knew the finer details once sitting at the top table is difficult to know or even judge .

The Labour movement has to accept its fate then.