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Spot on. Its not like we are demanding a stand at Wembley named after him!!! Hes a huge part of our modern history, was a top class human being according to those who knew him and there is no-one I can think of in the 30 years ive been watching Cardiff who deserves more to be celebrated with a statue or a stand named after him.Quote:
Originally Posted by mazadona10
So what if he was "just a championship player" we are just a championship club.
Correct. Cant even name a stand after one of our greatest players, whos life was sadly cut short, without it turning into a pissing contest.Quote:
Originally Posted by dembethewarrior
Well whatever his level he was as good as it got when I think of the players I have seen for us.Quote:
Originally Posted by surge
Even a stint in the top flight won't change that considering the the years he banged in some of those goals with nonchalance and iconic non celebration. Of course his early passing has brought this topic up but I still think its valid.
Club legend and he should be remembered by the club somehow who over the years have been poor in that regard, only took 90 years or whatever for a Keenor statue.
Besides if Brum can retire a teenagers shirt I'm sure we can name a stand after Whitts.
For the record,
I'm in the Family Stand or statue group because, amongst other reasons, he appears in top 10 of both leading appearance makers and leading goal-scorers.
I disagree with those in the "name the stadium after him" or "a stand and a statue" groups. That's going overboard, imo.
Nonchalance. If ever there was a word to describe Whitts thats it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Trigger
The ironic thing is he probably wouldnt want such a fuss made over this.
Still hard to compute hes not with us anymore. RIP Whitts.
Im still very bitter about the way Colin subbed him off in his last ever appearance for us.
I tend not to look at my work colleagues and friends when measuring success.Quote:
Originally Posted by surge
My success is my success.
CCFC success is CCFC success.
What does it matter what he was to other clubs? Its what he was to us and CCFC that matters here, surely?
Pathetic mate. Like squabbling children jumping to tell the teacher.Quote:
Originally Posted by J R Hartley
Molineaux has a stand named after Steve Bull. He was largely a "championship player" and im sure there will be other clubs lower down the pyramid who have stands named after ex-players.
Surely the whole point of naming a stand after an ex-player is his meaning to that particular club not the footballing fraternity in general.
You are right , however it is what we want ,sadly we never had huge success and great players where we can easily apply remembrances that the football world know .Quote:
Originally Posted by surge
As the song goes " he was one of our own" , so let's remember his amazing contribution at Cardiff City and that joy he delivered to those fans /
It struck me the other day we've not see the like since in terms of goal tally , wonderful moments from a midfield player
RIP Peter : I'm at my "Whitt's End waiting for this stand
Bournemouth have a stand named after Steve Fletcher. Its irrelevant at what level he played at.
Whitts was a phenomenal player for us. Incredible stats in goals and assists.
Stand with a statue outside would be great.
Exactly, the level is irrelevant, its what they meant to the club that mattersQuote:
Originally Posted by J R Hartley
Steve Fletcher had 20 years at Bournemouth as a player, has worked as a scout, asssistant coach and now an ambassador. only 97 of his 725 games were away from Bournemouth, he tops their all-time appearances and is 3rd in all time goal-scorers.
Steve Bull only had 30 games away from Wolves in a 504 game career, played 13 years at the club, 3rd in all time appearances, and is their top-goal scorer of all time.
Peter Whittingham played 94 games away from Cardiff in a 507 game career, 10.5 years at our club, and appears in top-10 of all time goal-scorers and all time appearances.
Yes Whittingham is most deserving of any modern era player of a stand being named or a statue but not comparable to players named on this thread at other clubs.
But does Whitts deserve statue and a stand or the stadium named after him? What if Aaron Ramsey returns to score the goals to take us into the Champions League then again as a manager to oversee 10 years of success - are we re-naming the Peter Whittingham Stadium after him? We do need room to go up if someone achieves more.
I mean, not much point in asking the question as the thing actually being talked about is renaming the Family Stand which I agree with, but it does show how relatively small our legends have been up until this point because we've spent most time as average or worse and most players have moved on fairly quickly.
If your sister had bollocks she would be your brother.Quote:
Originally Posted by surge
We know you never really rated Whitts and was one of his biggest critics but your bitterness on this thread is bordering on the spiteful.
Maybe I'm not communicating the nuance of my point well enough and that's my failure cause I know he's very important to some on here:Quote:
Originally Posted by J R Hartley
Stand or statue: I agree. "Whittingham was a great for us", "our legends", "top 10 in both appearances and goals - even better record if just league counted" are all comments made by me in this thread.
Stand and statue: I disagree.
Renaming the stadium: I disagree.
Comparable to Wolves and Bull or Bournemouth and Fletcher: I disagree.
I'd recognise him making his home in south Wales is another reason to remember him with stand or statue.
But I'd love to know where you got the idea I was one of his biggest critics from. I've been on here decades so plenty of posts to send me to remind me what I said.
Ian Greaves has stand named after him at Mansfield. He managed them for 6 years and gained 1 promotion.
Why isnt it comparable to Bull? Both played 400+ games for their clubs. Whitts played just 61 fewer games for us than Bull did for Wolves. Yes Bull scored more goals but he was a striker. Can stands only be named after strikers? Add their assists and I doubt Whitts would be far behind him.Quote:
Originally Posted by surge
He only played Under 21/23 level for England, but think how he would have influenced England if he had played last Sunday. A PW in his pomp was far better than Grealish, who everybody raves about.
There are lots of players who have served City very well over the years. Fred Keenor, Tom Farquharson, Billy Hardy Len Davies, Hughie Ferguson, Jimmy Blair and others Pre War. Players like Stan Montgomery, Danny Malloy, Colin Baker, Alan Harrington, Alf Sherwood, Ron Stitfall, Graham Vearnecombe, Ivor Allchurch, Derek Tapscott, Barry Hole, Brian Clark, John Toshack, Don Murray, Peter King, Gary Bell, Dave Carver, Leighton Phillips, Bill Irwin, Ron Healey, Phil Dwyer, John Buchanan, Tony Evans Roger Gibbins and many many more were all good/great for the club. But in the more modern era only Peter Whittingham really stands out.
He is 3rd in our all time League Appearances list, behind Phil Dwyer and Tom Farquharson.
He is 3rd in our League Goalscorers list behind Len Davies and Robert Earnshaw. He score more goals than Toshack, Clark or Tapscott from midfield/wing.
And he passed away tragically at such a young age. I don't think too many people would object if he received some sort of recognition from the Club. I know the Trust suggested a stand naming as a possibility. But its up to the club.
Whitts could have bounced around the lower half of the Premier League and been a tidy player... or he could be a legend at one club. He was happy here, he stayed here after he retired (Bamba is already back in Leeds for example, not that there's anything wrong with that) and loved the club. We were about the 20th-25th best club side in the country for about 10 years!Quote:
Originally Posted by surge
It's been mentioned many times. For me, officially calling it The Whitts End and making a pun devalues it. We can use it ourselves, but the official name should be his name.Quote:
Originally Posted by life on mars
In years to come, fans and journalists won't appreciate who he was and what he meant to us. It'll appear in shitty "10 weird things about soccer" articles on shitty clickbait articles. Away fans will call it "Shitts End".He deserves more than that.
Think we'll just have to agree to disagree on that one then.Quote:
Originally Posted by J R Hartley
I'd be disagreeing just as hard with anyone who says Whitts isn't deserving of special action to remember him by as I have been with the "rename the stadium" group.
****ing hell surge just be happy he's getting something.
Do we REALLY have to argue if a stand and statue is too much or what stand it is.
Have a day off.
That's odd, as on May 19 the Trust reported that they were pleased the issue had been discussed at Board level at CCFCQuote:
Originally Posted by Enoch Mort
As a Trust member I can't remember any correspondence asking for my opinions on this, and I certainly can't find any feedback from the Trust on members views.
I sent this message;-Quote:
Originally Posted by lisvaneblue
"Peter Whittingham Tribute
One of our long-standing members has suggested that in the wake of the 1st anniversary of Peter Whittingham's passing that the club should consider naming the Family Stand after the Bluebirds legend.
We wanted to seek the views of all members on this suggestion to honour Whitts.
Of course, it will ultimately be up to the club to decide if this idea can be taken forward and there could, of course, be issues surrounding sponsorship of stands.
However, despite the potential caveats, we'd are very interested in hearing what members think. Please respond to [email protected]"
to Trust members in March and it got well above the average number of replies we normally get for our messages.
cut him some slack Bob, He was probably in Prestatyn buying fruit and veg.Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
😂Quote:
Originally Posted by Tuerto
That thread did me. "why cant I drive to brecon to buy meat"
Yeah, he wouldn't let it go, either. :hehe:Quote:
Originally Posted by dembethewarrior
Thanks for posting that Jon. I think every City fan old enough to have seen him play for us would have an idea of what a typical Whitts goal was - I left out three of four that might have qualified while watching that video and still saw thirty one of them!Quote:
Originally Posted by jon1959