Despondency

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Originally Posted by insider

I didn't go last night and I won't be there Saturday for family reasons.
But I went on the train to Bath and thoroughly enjoyed it.
If you went back in the really shite years it was never really about quality of performance.
I'm looking forward to the season being with my son brother and mates and following the City home and away hopefully

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:thumbup:

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Originally Posted by Nobody's Rep

Not despondent at all - absolutely delighted to be back in the stadium last night - no problem getting tickets no problem getting in and the stewards were all good.

Plus points for me were McGuiness and Bowen, the clapping off of the team at the end and the applause for the taking the knee.

Are we going to get promoted - no
Are we going to see a change of plan from the club - no
Are we going to see a change in playing style - no
Are we going to see improved comms from the club - no

And as I can't massively influence the above I will continue doing what I am doing and go through the turnstiles and support those on the pitch.

As for being despondent - that maybe created by spending too much time on this board as there is a minority of regular posters who do nothing but moan about everything to do with the club and derail other posts with so called funny quips about things they are unhappy with

Just my mostly irrelevant opinion but if I was that unhappy I wouldn't go anywhere near what was making me unhappy in the first place

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Excellent post. There are people on this board who have been moaning about City for so long, they are unable to shake themselves out of it, see anything that the club/team does as good, think it is the normal thing to do and that every else agrees with them. Whereas they are really only an insignificant minority of the overall fanbase, comprising about 25-30 people at most.

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Originally Posted by dml1954

We are living in the 21st century now with a modern automated stadium with bar code access for tickets/cards. However the ticket office is always open on the day of the game and they have cash ticket booths open outside the ground before every game. There is absolutely no reason why people cant just turn up and pay on the day. Nothing is ever quite as bad as some people make out. Also, at the moment the club have absolutely no idea how many people they can let in on August 7th, so can not possibly advertise whether general sale tickets will be available.

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So you’re saying it’s DUCKFORD’S and his cronies fault ?

Because every other club is selling tickets, even our six fingered friends down west

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Originally Posted by BLUETIT

So you’re saying it’s DUCKFORD’S and his cronies fault ?

Because every other club is selling tickets, even our six fingered friends down west

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God it must be absolutely exhausting being you

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Originally Posted by Llandaff Blue

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Wonder what he's up to now, oh look he's playing for Barry! He was capped 3 times for the Welsh u19s! Come off it, the players we produce are crap. Like Patten, they barely get capped at international level. I remember people raving about Ratfcliffe cause he looked good at youth level despite being on loan at fecking Barry and being kept out of the Wales side by Przybek. Although he's still young, he would be on loan at national league sides like Pryzbek has but he's obviously not good enough.

I don't want to shit on these kids cause they are being poorly coached regardless of what level they're at, but let's not pretend the stuff they play at youth level is worlds away from the first team, that's nonsense. If we had capable coaches or players, either the players would make it elsewhere (despite your LAUGHABLE comment about Patten) or the coaches would be snapped up by other clubs that are invested in youth development. We have a category 2 academy remember, there's little in the way of us stopping players being snatched

The academy is a joke and a waste of money. I am honestly surprised Tan hasn't scrapped it already

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I've been wrong about the Academy and the youngsters that come through it in the past and I'm sure I will be again - I'm also probably a bit naive in my thinking in championing our young players as much as I do. However, I'll tell you something, I'd much rather have my attitude towards youth development at City than yours.

You say you "don't want to shit on these kids" and then go on to do precisely that - more than that, is there any need to adopt such a sneering and cynical style while doing so?

Whether by accident or design, you've completely missed my point about Robbie Patten. I acknowledged that injuries had affected his time at the club (he missed an awful lot of football in his late teens, so was always likely to be let go by City) and my point was about him being coached in a way that people at good quality non league sides did not think was best suited for the style of play they favoured.

Do you watch much age group football at City? Judging by your opinion that the way our youth sides play is not too far away from how our senior side plays, I suspect not.

Here's another anecdote concerning something I overheard at game between City and Colchester Under 18s (we had players like George Ratcliffe, Sam Bowen, Keenan Patten, Keiron Evans, Isaak Davies and, possibly, Rubin Colwill in our squad that day). City were 5-0 up at half time and I listened in on a conversation between someone who was obviously very clued up about youth football and who worked for Colchester, or had done in the recent past, talking to the parents of one of their players that day. One of the things he said was that we may be getting well beat, but I can still appreciate the football Cardiff have played today. Year in, year out, Cardiff play the most entertaining and skilful football I see from an opposition team and I always look forward to our matches against them.

It was as much as I could do not to blurt out "you haven't seen our first team play then?". Do you honestly think anyone at another Championship club has said something similar about our senior side in the last ten years? There might be an acknowledgment of our physicality, about how we're difficult to play against and how dangerous we are from set pieces, but envy at the quality of our football? Really?

My message was about the absurdity of having an Academy geared to play one way and a first team set up to play in a manner which is almost completely opposite to it - dismissing every young player the club has produced since Aaron Ramsey as not good enough is just lazy thinking.

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Originally Posted by dml1954

We are living in the 21st century now with a modern automated stadium with bar code access for tickets/cards. However the ticket office is always open on the day of the game and they have cash ticket booths open outside the ground before every game. There is absolutely no reason why people cant just turn up and pay on the day. Nothing is ever quite as bad as some people make out. Also, at the moment the club have absolutely no idea how many people they can let in on August 7th, so can not possibly advertise whether general sale tickets will be available.

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Try hard.

How many players have come through our academy in the last 10 years and gone on to play league football for us or another club?

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Originally Posted by LeningradCowboy

How many players have come through our academy in the last 10 years and gone on to play league football for us or another club?

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You're just taking the piss now :hehe:

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Originally Posted by LeningradCowboy

How many players have come through our academy in the last 10 years and gone on to play league football for us or another club?

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cardif...3s_and_Academy

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Originally Posted by LeningradCowboy

How many players have come through our academy in the last 10 years and gone on to play league football for us or another club?

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Matondo, John, Harris, Oshilaja, Lockyer, Poole, Yorwerth, James

We seem adept at creating lower league centre backs

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Originally Posted by City123

Matondo, John, Harris, Oshilaja, Lockyer, Poole, Yorwerth, James

We seem adept at creating lower league centre backs

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Explains our defending.

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Originally Posted by City123

Matondo, John, Harris, Oshilaja, Lockyer, Poole, Yorwerth, James

We seem adept at creating lower league centre backs

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So it's not as if our academy is producing many decent players who don't get a chance here because they're unsuited to hoofball. It's hardly producing any players who are good enough for league football at all.

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Originally Posted by LeningradCowboy

So it's not as if our academy is producing many decent players who don't get a chance here because they're unsuited to hoofball. It's hardly producing any players who are good enough for league football at all.

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Lazy.

If you want to see real despondency look on the Derby message boards!

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

Lazy.

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What is lazy?