Joe is on a bombing raid

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Originally Posted by life on mars

No what I'm saying there all murdering bastards in their own ways , only difference they murder there own whatever ISIS variant you want to name they kidnap children ,stop woman's rights, restrict education , torture , rape , car bomb , cut heads off their own iin the name of Allah or some other nutty vision , you also have a number of non westernised countries like China ,Russia , Syria , North Korea ,Venezuela killing /imprisoning , torturing innocents ( as well you know ) yes drones are bad but USA is not killing its own FFS .

They are indefensible killers and evil .

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OK. So you were excusing the drone attack that killed 10 innocent civilians (including 6 children). It was no big deal because 'what about' ISIS, Al Qaeda, the Taliban, or any number of 'non Western' countries who are all guilty of atrocities? And somehow you think (in the biggest font size you can find) that the US is also somehow less culpable because its military doesn't (usually) kill its own innocent citizens - it kills innocent citizens of other countries?

You are back on script!

Just for more clarification - no one on here has anything but disgust and contempt for the IS-K bombing of Kabul airport, or any of the other atrocities carried out by murderous states and groups, especially when the victims are non-combatants and often children. But this is a thread titled 'Joe is on a bombing raid' so it is about what the USA is doing. Deflection and whataboutery not needed.

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Originally Posted by jon1959

OK. So you were excusing the drone attack that killed 10 innocent civilians (including 6 children). It was no big deal because 'what about' ISIS, Al Qaeda, the Taliban, or any number of 'non Western' countries who are all guilty of atrocities? And somehow you think (in the biggest font size you can find) that the US is also somehow less culpable because its military doesn't (usually) kill its own innocent citizens - it kills innocent citizens of other countries?

You are back on script!

Just for more clarification - no one on here has anything but disgust and contempt for the IS-K bombing of Kabul airport, or any of the other atrocities carried out by murderous states and groups, especially when the victims are non-combatants and often children. But this is a thread titled 'Joe is on a bombing raid' so it is about what the USA is doing. Deflection and whataboutery not needed.

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Your conveniently missing the point the drones strikes are evil the post was to demonstrate that and muster debate on nice old Joe after the evil old Trump era ( which you now know).

Your one eyed hatred off the USA ,Israel, or Tories is one sided look at attricoties delivered to innocents people all around the world.

Nice and simply for you drone strikes are evil.

Terrorism is evil .

You seem to only concentrate on a single narrow view of the attricoties that are deployed, over our globe ie USA HOWEVER everyday children, women different religions, gay, protesters within their own country’s face appalling attricoties and quality of life ( ill say that again in thier own country ) yes just for being different. .

The USA, UK or Israel are not killing thier own .

Doubling down? OK

Broken biscuits

following on from bakers hitlers parody post on the football site

Hitler phones ice cream sleepy joe again . don't bother clicking the link lardy :hehe:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNWjXYHz2u0

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Originally Posted by MOZZER2

following on from bakers hitlers parody post on the football site

Hitler phones ice cream sleepy joe again . don't bother clicking the link lardy :hehe:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNWjXYHz2u0

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Apparently Hitler has Covid hence the reason Joe didn't take the call worried he'd catch the virus, nice one Joe 👍

looks like the installed ones ratings has plummeted faster than the titanic. anyone with a brain cell could see what was going to happen !

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZ3BQWfihrk

those dominion machines have alot to answer for :hehe:

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Originally Posted by MOZZER2

looks like the installed ones ratings has plummeted faster than the titanic. anyone with a brain cell could see what was going to happen !

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZ3BQWfihrk

those dominion machines have alot to answer for :hehe:

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#Lets go Brandon

Joe is going to defend Taiwan , hang on he's been corrected???

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Originally Posted by Heathblue

#Lets go Brandon

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wasn't sure where all this came from but this fella enlightened me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64u0boevHGc

Just read this bit shocked if I'm honest

""Joe Biden’s popularity plummets faster than any other US President since 1945

Gallup poll shows 11.3 per cent approval rating fall in the wake of coronavirus, economic woes and America’s withdrawal from Afghanistan ""

Wonder why Boris approval stays relatively healthy 🤔

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Originally Posted by MOZZER2

wasn't sure where all this came from but this fella enlightened me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64u0boevHGc

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The top 5 songs on the ITunes hip hop charts are all "Lets go Brandon songs, i don't know if it's BS as i have no idea
about iTunes, I prolly have iTunes on my mac but don't use that for music. :wales:

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Originally Posted by Heathblue

The top 5 songs on the ITunes hip hop charts are all "Lets go Brandon songs, i don't know if it's BS as i have no idea
about iTunes, I prolly have iTunes on my mac but don't use that for music. :wales:

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maybe we need a number from our very own rappers like drake or stormszy to conjure up with a tune for our blithering blond idiot running the show over here to complete the line up . i would make sure it got to number 1 :hehe:

Lets go Doris

Joe is down in the polls, so what better way to boost one's popularity than threaten other nations , he's gone all Trumpy.

First threaten to defend Tawain now Iran .


https://www.politico.com/news/2021/1...ensions-518029

Hope his plan are better than his Afgan withdrawal, that cost a few lives.

Can you threaten to defend a country? Is that how it works? :shrug:

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Originally Posted by lardy

Can you threaten to defend a country? Is that how it works? :shrug:

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Yes as he is threatening China's aims in that area , by threatening to defend Taiwan , see play on words

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Originally Posted by life on mars

Joe is down in the polls, so what better way to boost one's popularity than threaten other nations , he's gone all Trumpy.

First threaten to defend Tawain now Iran .


https://www.politico.com/news/2021/1...ensions-518029

Hope his plan are better than his Afgan withdrawal, that cost a few lives.

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For once I agree with you. Joe reverting to type.

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Originally Posted by jon1959

For once I agree with you. Joe reverting to type.

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Virginia votes at risk ,its a close run thing so he's got to appeal to floating Republicans for a bit longer .

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Originally Posted by life on mars

Virginia votes at risk ,its a close run thing so he's got to appeal to floating Republicans for a bit longer .

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Republicans comfortably won Virginia. New Jersey close. Both normally elect Democrat Governors by the look of it but you can never read too much into these things.

I do think Joe Biden is getting found out mind. His big selling point, for the media and for many voters was simply that he isn't Donald Trump, and that was less about policy and more style, as many of his policies are the same.

I would put money on a more moderate republican party doing well in the next 3-4 years. Which of course is the cycle of things in most western democracies anyway.

One term or even half a term Joe , even Hillary beat Trump in Virginia, Biden had 10% vote win on Trump as well send for Megan Markle I hear them cry, Trump to run 🤔🤔🤔🤔

Sleepy will probably be more worried about his incontinence & flatulence at the moment than anything else, imagine shitting yourself when meeting the pope and dropping your guts when meeting Camilla, OK only internet stuff but you gorra laugh :hehe:
I wouldn't be surprised to see the democrats invoke the 25th amendment before long, and if they do, and Nanshi doesn't drink herself to death, she'll prolly get elevated over the current VP, Durham has put to bed the possibility of Hillary Rotten to re-enter the frame
#Let's Go Brandon

you can't come on heathblue with those type of accusations without evidence :hehe:

mind you you can't get more foolish than his side kick kamalla trying to speak french in Paris . how embarrassing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GoAOznmnksc

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Originally Posted by MOZZER2

you can't come on heathblue with those type of accusations without evidence :hehe:

mind you you can't get more foolish than his side kick kamalla trying to speak french in Paris . how embarrassing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GoAOznmnksc

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Thought old Kammy was the future ,has she fixed that easy Mexican border thingy yet , which sleepy kindly handed it to her as it was such a slam dunk solvable solution 🤔 .

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Originally Posted by life on mars

Thought old Kammy was the future ,has she fixed that easy Mexican border thingy yet , which sleepy kindly handed it to her as it was such a slam dunk solvable solution �� .

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She is (allegedly) the DS asset selected to take up the presidency when sleepy has done his job, but, she is despised by the American people, she didn't get past 1st base in their selection process and was i think either 1st or second dropped from the candidates, allegedly though, plenty got past her 1st base and is the reason she climbed through the ranks. #Let's go Brandon, I think I'd like to see a female USA president, just to know that Hillary Rotten would be sat in her chair screaming and screaming like a baby beating the crap out of Bill and screaming it was supposed to be me.

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Originally Posted by Heathblue

She is (allegedly) the DS asset selected to take up the presidency when sleepy has done his job, but, she is despised by the American people, she didn't get past 1st base in their selection process and was i think either 1st or second dropped from the candidates, allegedly though, plenty got past her 1st base and is the reason she climbed through the ranks. #Let's go Brandon, I think I'd like to see a female USA president, just to know that Hillary Rotten would be sat in her chair screaming and screaming like a baby beating the crap out of Bill and screaming it was supposed to be me.

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"sleepy Joe"
"Hilary Rotten"

jeez, grow up

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Originally Posted by Rjk

"sleepy Joe"
"Hilary Rotten"

jeez, grow up

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OK. :wave:

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Originally Posted by Heathblue

OK. :wave:

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Steady its an ONLY an allowable one way street in politics when it comes to name calling in the UK / USA .

Isn't it reassuring to see that the thread designed to knock a US President only stretches to four pages despite the efforts of Trump supporters on here to create something to rival this

https://www.ccmb.co.uk/showthread.ph...d-Trump-thread

That's the way it should be in the UK and, by and large, always was until Trump was elected and became an affront to the whole democratic process.

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

Isn't it reassuring to see that the thread designed to knock a US President only stretches to four pages despite the efforts of Trump supporters on here to create something to rival this

https://www.ccmb.co.uk/showthread.ph...d-Trump-thread

That's the way it should be in the UK and, by and large, always was until Trump was elected and became an affront to the whole democratic process.

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Doesn't that rather imply that 'Biden supporters' are happy to keep quiet about his indiscretions because of the colour of his rosette, though?

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Originally Posted by JamesWales

Doesn't that rather imply that 'Biden supporters' are happy to keep quiet about his indiscretions because of the colour of his rosette, though?

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No, it means Trump was unique (worse than Nixon in my opinion), nothing to do with the colour of rosettes - it’s the same in this country at the moment, I was always someone who said you should never vote for just a leader, but, as someone who usually votes Labour, there’s no way I’d vote for them if they had someone like Johnson in charge.

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

No, it means Trump was unique (worse than Nixon in my opinion), nothing to do with the colour of rosettes - it’s the same in this country at the moment, I was always someone who said you should never vote for just a leader, but, as someone who usually votes Labour, there’s no way I’d vote for them if they had someone like Johnson in charge.

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What I mean is, in terms of outcomes, bombing other countries, migrant crisis, treatment of refugees at the southern border, isn't the difference pretty limited in terms of outcome, with the difference between Trump and Biden mainly being in rhetoric? I agree, that does matter, but sometimes it seems that what is actually happening matters less than the rhetoric.

Biden does seem somewhat teflon to a lot of it all (as is Boris Johnson of course!)

Out of interest, were you happy to vote for Labour under Corbyn? Not judging, I understand the reasons someone does vote for someone are usually different to the reasons someone else doesn't, I'm just interested.

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What I mean is, in terms of outcomes, bombing other countries, migrant crisis, treatment of refugees at the southern border, isn't the difference pretty limited in terms of outcome, with the difference between Trump and Biden mainly being in rhetoric? I agree, that does matter, but sometimes it seems that what is actually happening matters less than the rhetoric.

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There are obviously some areas of overlap between Trump and Biden as they are backed by the Bill and Ben US parties that have developed consensus on a range of policies over decades. Although one leans to the NRA and the other to the AFL-CIO and ACLU.

Despite one pretending to be the anti-establishment outsider and the other pretending to be the new convert to a range of progressive policies, both are elderly white men who have spent most of their lives in and around NY and Washington.

But there are clearly major policy differences too. You can't get much further apart than those two on: climate change, Covid, social and economic support in response to Covid, international collaboration, healthcare, abortion (the Catholic is pro choice, the opportunist Presbyterian is not), undocumented immigrants (Biden for legalising, Trump for criminalising), Iran, guns, and a range of other prominent policies.

They appear to have similar views on the death penalty and the Iraq war (although coming at it from different directions) where it would have been no surprise to see a Trump presidency pull out US troops as Biden did.

And when it comes to personality (which influences everything above) the difference is stark.

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

Isn't it reassuring to see that the thread designed to knock a US President only stretches to four pages despite the efforts of Trump supporters on here to create something to rival this

https://www.ccmb.co.uk/showthread.ph...d-Trump-thread

That's the way it should be in the UK and, by and large, always was until Trump was elected and became an affront to the whole democratic process.

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What's a trump supporter ?
And why bring him up in a Biden thread, He's done?

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Originally Posted by Heathblue

What's a trump supporter ?
And why bring him up in a Biden thread, He's done?

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Glad you put a question mark after "He's done", because the man himself certainly doesn't think he is.

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Originally Posted by JamesWales

What I mean is, in terms of outcomes, bombing other countries, migrant crisis, treatment of refugees at the southern border, isn't the difference pretty limited in terms of outcome, with the difference between Trump and Biden mainly being in rhetoric? I agree, that does matter, but sometimes it seems that what is actually happening matters less than the rhetoric.

Biden does seem somewhat teflon to a lot of it all (as is Boris Johnson of course!)

Out of interest, were you happy to vote for Labour under Corbyn? Not judging, I understand the reasons someone does vote for someone are usually different to the reasons someone else doesn't, I'm just interested.

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I voted for Labour, not Corbyn, in 2017 and 2019, the second time not very enthusiastically at all. I've realised in the last few years that I'm more anti tory than pro Labour and I voted the way I did in 2017 because the Cardiff West constituency, while being a pretty safe Labour seat now, went Conservative in 1983 and so, unless Labour was obviously going to win like they were in 2001 and 2005 when I voted for other parties, I was always aware of the possibility the Tories could sneak in. Now I'm living in the Rhondda, my vote doesn't feel as important in terms of Labour v Conservative and so I did the lazy thing in 2019 and stuck with Labour when I probably should have voted Green or Plaid.

Johnson is the only leader of the Conservative party in my voting life (Ted Heath was their leader in the first election I voted in) who I have voted against as an individual above their party - it goes above party politics with him as far as I'm concerned, he's just completely unfit for the job and a nasty, entitled, selfish piece of work as well.

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

Glad you put a question mark after "He's done", because the man himself certainly doesn't think he is.

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And why bring him up in this Biden thread ?
and what's a Trump supporter ?

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Originally Posted by Heathblue

And why bring him up in this Biden thread ?
and what's a Trump supporter ?

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Because of the stark comparison between the thread set up to knock him and the one dedicated to Trump (not to mention the hundreds of others that were started while he was President).

Biden is a welcome return to normality in terms of American Presidents as far as I’m concerned and that doesn’t mean I back everything he does by any means.

Surprised you need me to define what a Trump supporter is - there are two contributors, at least, to this thread who consistently backed Trump during his Presidency while also generally being anti those who who were on the other side of the argument, they were, and may still be, Trump supporters as far as I’m concerned.

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

Because of the stark comparison between the thread set up to knock him and the one dedicated to Trump (not to mention the hundreds of others that were started while he was President).

Biden is a welcome return to normality in terms of American Presidents as far as I’m concerned and that doesn’t mean I back everything he does by any means.

Surprised you need me to define what a Trump supporter is - there are two contributors, at least, to this thread who consistently backed Trump during his Presidency while also generally being anti those who who were on the other side of the argument, they were, and may still be, Trump supporters as far as I’m concerned.

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Normality being a president who has a disturbing tendency to be touching young kids and sniffing their hair, still available for those who want to go all in with Snopes and their Fact Checking!!, normality being a president who only a few days ago rereferred to an NBA (i think) player might have been one of the other American sports stars as a NEGRO, normality being a president who throughout his political history using the N word when referencing non whites, Ashley Biden's diary I suggest isn't normal, Hunters Laptop I suggest isn't normal. I don't think this bloke is normal. I don't think politics has been normal for decades, voters all over the globe are being offered a choice between a shit sandwich and a shit sandwich. Extracting the Urine with regards to one of them doesn't mean endorsement of the other, taking the piss out of the 2 year Russian collusion brigade doesn't mean endorsement, it just means those who didn't fall for the media hit job were proven right, thinking that Biden is a wrong un doesn't mean the other fella was a right un, just being remotely interested in finding out the truth or not, isn't an endorsement its just an interest in knowing the truth, would you like to define a Biden supporter ?

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Originally Posted by Heathblue

Normality being a president who has a disturbing tendency to be touching young kids and sniffing their hair, still available for those who want to go all in with Snopes and their Fact Checking!!, normality being a president who only a few days ago rereferred to an NBA (i think) player might have been one of the other American sports stars as a NEGRO, normality being a president who throughout his political history using the N word when referencing non whites, Ashley Biden's diary I suggest isn't normal, Hunters Laptop I suggest isn't normal. I don't think this bloke is normal. I don't think politics has been normal for decades, voters all over the globe are being offered a choice between a shit sandwich and a shit sandwich. Extracting the Urine with regards to one of them doesn't mean endorsement of the other, taking the piss out of the 2 year Russian collusion brigade doesn't mean endorsement, it just means those who didn't fall for the media hit job were proven right, thinking that Biden is a wrong un doesn't mean the other fella was a right un, just being remotely interested in finding out the truth or not, isn't an endorsement its just an interest in knowing the truth, would you like to define a Biden supporter ?

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You’ve got all agitated about me talking about Trump supporters when you aren’t one of the two I referred to. I’ve just been reading an article about how poorly Biden and his party are doing in the polls and it doesn’t surprise me at all that he is struggling, he, just about, won last year in my view solely because he wasn’t Trump.

I mean “normality” in relation to things like not waking up in the morning in the UK with what the American President said or tweeted overnight being the main topic on that day’s news. I welcome the “normality” of not having to listen to or watch an American President fighting a never ending culture war for no one’s benefit but his own. “Normality” is having a thread on an American President running to four pages on a Cardiff City messageboard, not the four hundred and thirty four we have for the last one!

American voters have had a truly awful trio of potential Presidents to choose from in the last two elections and I doubt it if Biden would have been President if he had been the Democrats candidate in any previous election, but I quite like the idea of a sleepy President after the last one.

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Originally Posted by JamesWales

Doesn't that rather imply that 'Biden supporters' are happy to keep quiet about his indiscretions because of the colour of his rosette, though?

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And the media choice of which party they like and support ,bloody fake news .

What happened to Hunter ??

What happened to Joe's touchy , touchy rumours ??